2025 NFL Offseason Thread

[Floridacardguy]

Originally Posted by ssbledsoe

That already happened to you before I posted this

[ssbledsoe]

Originally Posted by Floridacardguy

That already happened to you before I posted this

Nuh uh, ur dummerer!!!

[Jaysabz]

Originally Posted by Bosoxfan5990

Does Reddick get a Super Bowl ring? What a dummy.

Nope. He agreed to end his holdout with the Jets and enter into a modified contract with them in October of 2024.

He played in 10 games for the Jets in the 2024 season. He had 14 tackles (9 solo, 5 assisted), and two games with .5 sacks, so 1 total sack on the season.

[Boo]

Would you rather have Russ or Daniel Jones?

[Bosoxfan5990]

Originally Posted by Boo

Would you rather have Russ or Daniel Jones?

Woof.

[Floridacardguy]

Originally Posted by Boo

Would you rather have Russ or Daniel Jones?

Option C

[kjct28]

Going to keep picking up Kendre Miller for cheap. Feel like he still hasn’t been given much of a chance (even though he’s injured a lot). Hopefully that changes with Coach Kellen. Anybody feel there’s a good chance he tries to trade Kamara this offseason?


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[slyguy]

Originally Posted by kjct28

Going to keep picking up Kendre Miller for cheap. Feel like he still hasn’t been given much of a chance (even though he’s injured a lot). Hopefully that changes with Coach Kellen. Anybody feel there’s a good chance he tries to trade Kamara this offseason?...

It'd be a decent idea if RBs mattered for cards.
You'd have to hope for Kamara to miss time, though.

In NFL terms, they just re-signed Kamara in the middle of last season. He's 30 before preseason but still very good and catches as good as any RB (young QB's best friend). RBs have almost no value for FA or trade, so I don't see it... no. No reason to get rid of a good RB, get barely anything in return for an older RB (probably a 6th round pick?) and take cap hits for doing so. Won't happen.

[kjct28]

Originally Posted by slyguy

It'd be a decent idea if RBs mattered for cards.
You'd have to hope for Kamara to miss time, though.

In NFL terms, they just re-signed Kamara in the middle of last season. He's 30 before preseason but still very good and catches as good as any RB (young QB's best friend). RBs have almost no value for FA or trade, so I don't see it... no. No reason to get rid of a good RB, get barely anything in return for an older RB (probably a 6th round pick?) and take cap hits for doing so. Won't happen.

Definitely not disagreeing with you. It's the offseason and I already had some decent cards of his in storage. I decided I liked the upside of him having a new coach and hopefully being 100% healthy heading into his 3rd year.

Now I am just having fun collecting his cards for as cheap as I can find and building a rainbow while I am at it. If Kamara goes down, or Kendre just has one big game, I'd probably unload most just to fund my next project.

[Siberian13]

It says cap goes up at least $22 million.

[Soxrule111]

Has it been discussed in here, I heard something along the lines of Burrow could/would restructure his deal to open more Cap space to resign everyone.

But Burrow ends up getting paid all upfront as a signing bonus, but then they get hit hard with a Cap Hit Down the road for it?

[slyguy]

Originally Posted by Soxrule111

Has it been discussed in here, I heard something along the lines of Burrow could/would restructure his deal to open more Cap space to resign everyone.

But Burrow ends up getting paid all upfront as a signing bonus, but then they get hit hard with a Cap Hit Down the road for it?

Multiple top math universities like MIT and Yale and UC-Berk now offer salary cap gymnastics PhD programs.

[Boo]

Originally Posted by Soxrule111

Has it been discussed in here, I heard something along the lines of Burrow could/would restructure his deal to open more Cap space to resign everyone.

But Burrow ends up getting paid all upfront as a signing bonus, but then they get hit hard with a Cap Hit Down the road for it?

Higgins isn't worth it, let him walk. If Burrow is that good, you can draft a WR to take his place. Unless a guy is a top 5 at WR, do not pay them would be the strategy. Every draft class has good to great receivers.

[Jaysabz]

Originally Posted by Boo

Higgins isn't worth it, let him walk. If Burrow is that good, you can draft a WR to take his place. Unless a guy is a top 5 at WR, do not pay them would be the strategy. Every draft class has good to great receivers.

I'm torn on this one.... we've seen with the Eagles that having a big, dominant guy like Brown that often demands a second set of eyes on him opens up some doors for a great route runner and ball catcher like DeVonta Smith.

I'm not familiar enough with Tee Higgins' game to say whether he's like DeVonta in that 99% of the time, he's going to run the right route and catch the ball if it's catchable.

If he is, I'd say it's worth re-signing Higgins, just like the Eagles are paying both Brown and Smith good money to be WRs 1a and 1b.

For every Justin Jefferson out there, there's also a Jalen Reagor (ugh, don't Eagles fans know it), so drafting someone to be your WR 1b or WR2 to Jamaar Chase is risky. They may do well to try and sign a WR in free agency who is a good hands guy / good route runner but is demanding less than Higgins.

Also - Kupp is out there, and the word is that the Rams are looking to move on from their older players and start a rebuild.

[Scottish Punk]

Higgins is a lot closer to Smith than to Reagor. Higgins may even be a number one on some teams currently. That being said, I would let him walk. I am with Boo, you got an elite QB and an elite WR1, you should be able to find nice replacements for what Higgins wants to get paid. Spread some of that money around on the two lines up front. That will impact winning a ton more.

[Jaysabz]

Originally Posted by Scottish Punk

Higgins is a lot closer to Smith than to Reagor. Higgins may even be a number one on some teams currently. That being said, I would let him walk. I am with Boo, you got an elite QB and an elite WR1, you should be able to find nice replacements for what Higgins wants to get paid. Spread some of that money around on the two lines up front. That will impact winning a ton more.

Gotcha, as I said, wasn't familiar enough w/ Higgins.

Looking ahead to the 2025, the Bengals have all of their picks but the 7th rounder they shipped off to Chicago for RB Khalil Herbert. So their picks are:
First Round - 17
Second Round - 49
Third Round - 81
Fourth Round - TBD*
Fifth Round - TBD*
Sixth Round - TBD*
*(Each pick is their own, but depending on compensatory picks awarded to teams, the # of their exact pick is TBD)

So I suppose they could probably get a ready-to-start WR at 17, then plug up holes in free agency and the draft.

[Scottish Punk]

Bengals let some big defensive free agents walk the past two years. They desperately need to refill those holes. Burrow still doesn't have a great oline either. I would spend draft capital and free agent money there. They have some d lineman which are up for a new contract. Good news is they currently have some good cap space. I would think they want to use it. They have the hardest part set, a top tier QB. Burrow is plenty good enough to win a Super Bowl. Just get that defense to not give up 25 points a game and protect him on offense.

[packman80]

Rams give Stafford permission to talk to other teams. Guessing he wants a last deal that will guarantee him over $100 million over next few years and Rams don't want to risk that he will stay healthy over that period of time. If Rams trade him does Rodgers end up in LA?

[Floridacardguy]

Originally Posted by packman80

Rams give Stafford permission to talk to other teams. Guessing he wants a last deal that will guarantee him over $100 million over next few years and Rams don't want to risk that he will stay healthy over that period of time. If Rams trade him does Rodgers end up in LA?

That makes zero sense. Let's let an old QB who could get injured leave, and bring in another one exactly the same who looked like a shell of himself last year. Rams should just hit the reset and draft a QB, either a 1st rounder to start right away or bring in some cheap free agent to start and develop the young draftee. Maybe in that sense, Rodgers would make sense on a one year deal, but don't expect much from him

[slyguy]

Originally Posted by Floridacardguy

That makes zero sense. Let's let an old QB who could get injured leave, and bring in another one exactly the same who looked like a shell of himself last year. Rams should just hit the reset and draft a QB, either a 1st rounder to start right away or bring in some cheap free agent to start and develop the young draftee. Maybe in that sense, Rodgers would make sense on a one year deal, but don't expect much from him

Yeah, no need for LA Rams to do a high priced vet or take on an ego like that.

They can develop a castoff QB, or they can use just about any vet QB as a bridge to a drafted one.
I don't really think there are any good QB prospects in 2025 draft class, so signing a guy like Mac Jones, Daniel Jones, maybe even Trey Lance makes the most sense in FA for the Rams. I think they'll take whoever falls through the cracks and get value from FA next month. Darnold or Carr would be great on Rams, but they'll want big money (Darnold likely franchise tag and trade to a team that'll pay him by Minn). Justin Fields to LA would be unlikely since those type of scramble guys require such adjustments to the whole offense/scheme of the team... and they get hurt so much.

Rams are pretty much like Vikings or Niners, though... pretty good QB coaching plan, good overall team, a lot of quarterbacks will succeed there. They won't get in a bid war or take on a locker room problem if they don't have to.

[tjforce]

Originally Posted by Scottish Punk

Bengals let some big defensive free agents walk the past two years. They desperately need to refill those holes. Burrow still doesn't have a great oline either. I would spend draft capital and free agent money there. They have some d lineman which are up for a new contract. Good news is they currently have some good cap space. I would think they want to use it. They have the hardest part set, a top tier QB. Burrow is plenty good enough to win a Super Bowl. Just get that defense to not give up 25 points a game and protect him on offense.

Funny you use the number 25, because in 7 playoff games, the Bengals defense has never given up more the 24 points. When they were a defensive first team, they made the playoffs but the offense came just short of getting them over the top to win the Super Bowl.

They have some very big decisions to make around if they go all in on offense or try to spread the wealth. When Chase gets his new deal, it'll be the biggest ever for a WR (by a good margin, I assume). Burrow already has one of the biggest QB deals ever, and Higgins is going to command about $30MM a year.

What makes it even more difficult is that the league's leader in sacks, Trey Hendrickson, has only 1 more year on his deal. So now you have to worry about losing the one elite player you have on an otherwise poor defense.

So what do you do?

[packman80]

Originally Posted by tjforce

Funny you use the number 25, because in 7 playoff games, the Bengals defense has never given up more the 24 points. When they were a defensive first team, they made the playoffs but the offense came just short of getting them over the top to win the Super Bowl.

They have some very big decisions to make around if they go all in on offense or try to spread the wealth. When Chase gets his new deal, it'll be the biggest ever for a WR (by a good margin, I assume). Burrow already has one of the biggest QB deals ever, and Higgins is going to command about $30MM a year.

What makes it even more difficult is that the league's leader in sacks, Trey Hendrickson, has only 1 more year on his deal. So now you have to worry about losing the one elite player you have on an otherwise poor defense.

So what do you do?

Higgins will get tagged and traded. You need to pay Chase as he's a better player then Higgins and can't pay two WR's both #1 money.

[chompie99]

Originally Posted by packman80

Higgins will get tagged and traded. You need to pay Chase as he's a better player then Higgins and can't pay two WR's both #1 money.

Higgins biggest problem is staying on the field. When he’s on the field he outperforms Chase at times. He’s missed so much time due to injury.

[7sinVegas7]

Originally Posted by packman80

Guessing he wants a last deal that will guarantee him over $100 million...

Have you seen his wife? He better stay paid up.


(Calm down. This is Cindy Rooney. Google her.)

[tjforce]

Originally Posted by packman80

Higgins will get tagged and traded. You need to pay Chase as he's a better player then Higgins and can't pay two WR's both #1 money.

Looking at Burrow's deal:
'25: $46.3
'26: $48.3
'27: $52.3
'28: $53.3
'29: $57.6
'30: $9.0 in void year.

There's not a ton of room to really lower that cap number the way there is with Mahomes, unless you want to really push into the void year.

As for Chase, I assume he'll get a deal through '29, which aligns with Burrow's deal and the lengtht that Jefferson's deal was. If Jefferson got 4 year $140MM, I think Chase gets 4 years $150-160MM based on the year he just had and the increase I cap space. If Modeled similarly to Jeffersons, it would look something like:

'25: $21.8 (carryover from rookie contract)
'26: $16.8
'27: $43.2
'28: $48.6
'29: $52.6
'30: $7.0 in void year.

There's going to be some shuffling around between the two deals, but what you are looking it between the two in approximate amount of $ tied up in the two:

'25: $68.1
'26: $65.1
'27: $95.5
'28: $101.4
'29: $110.2
'30: $16.0 in void year.

The could do something to keep Higgins for a year or two... but it would mean really neglecting the Oline, not addressing needs on defense, and letting Hendrickson go after next season.