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Old 12-14-2016, 01:18 PM   #10051
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last I heard was the 29 was when they were expected to be done
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Old 12-14-2016, 01:31 PM   #10052
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Anyone hear any updates on the Bryant/Russell dual auto relic? I think Bryant has signed his cards as I got the single auto of his a week ago. Thanks for any help
Mine are not here yet either.
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Old 12-14-2016, 01:31 PM   #10053
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last I heard was the 29 was when they were expected to be done
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Old 12-14-2016, 02:01 PM   #10054
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Mailman just stopped by. My first and only Topps Now card.

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Old 12-14-2016, 02:13 PM   #10055
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Bowman's Best have KB/Trout dual auto.
Not saying that it should affect the Topps Now dual auto card value, but it seemed like that was one of the discussions on the card, so just saying.
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Old 12-14-2016, 02:14 PM   #10056
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Mailman just stopped by. My first and only Topps Now card.

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Old 12-14-2016, 02:15 PM   #10057
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Bowman's Best have KB/Trout dual auto.
Not saying that it should affect the Topps Now dual auto card value, but it seemed like that was one of the discussions on the card, so just saying.
I figured they would...why wouldn't they?
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Old 12-14-2016, 02:28 PM   #10058
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Bowman's Best have KB/Trout dual auto.
Not saying that it should affect the Topps Now dual auto card value, but it seemed like that was one of the discussions on the card, so just saying.
I don't believe it says MVP right? Just a regular dual auto?
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Old 12-14-2016, 02:28 PM   #10059
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Mailman just stopped by. My first and only Topps Now card.

awesome piece of history!!
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Old 12-14-2016, 02:35 PM   #10060
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I don't believe it says MVP right? Just a regular dual auto?
I don't know, haven't seen the actual image.
Checklist for 2016 Bowman's Best just came out today.

It probably won't say MVP on the front.
Maybe on the back, there might be some description about it.
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Old 12-14-2016, 02:45 PM   #10061
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awesome piece of history!!
Sucks we didn't win it, but an Indians world series card with a piece of the base from the first home game in Chicago is pretty cool.
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Old 12-14-2016, 02:52 PM   #10062
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Topps Now Dual Card Style vs Bowman's Best Dual Card Style








IMO,

1) I think the Topps Now Dual Style is so much better. I'm not a fan of the Bowman's Best style.

2) It seems like it's just a regular dual with no mention of any event (though this could be early in image work)

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now that I think about it, it has to have some mention of mvp as all the other dual bowman's best autos are from the same team. These two are not. So I guess it has to be MVP mention somewhere. Design still sucks (imo).


3) I still think "moments card" carry a much, much greater weight than regularly issued cards. IMO, the "emotional value" of cards will be much more highly valued, with the first sign not in a higher price, but with the lack of any supply out there of certain cards...which has already shown up in certain cards already:

Kris Bryant / Trout
Kris Bryant / Rizzo

* John Lackey
* Addison Russell
* That Kyle Hendricks low print card
* That Jorge Soler low print card
* Priscotty / Holliday

* Gary Sanchez 1st card

* Lack of /10 Reds for the sale on ebay (I thought there would be more available on ebay, more flipping of these)

* Lack of /1 golds for sale on ebay (same, I thought there would be much available on ebay, more flipping of these)



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Old 12-14-2016, 03:07 PM   #10063
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Topps Now Dual Card Style vs Bowman's Best Dual Card Style








IMO,

1) I think the Topps Now Dual Style is so much better. I'm not a fan of the Bowman's Best style.

2) It seems like it's just a regular dual with no mention of any event (though this could be early in image work)

***Update***
now that I think about it, it has to have some mention of mvp as all the other dual bowman's best autos are from the same team. These two are not. So I guess it has to be MVP mention somewhere. Design still sucks (imo).


3) I still think "moments card" carry a much, much greater weight than regularly issued cards. IMO, the "emotional value" of cards will be much more highly valued...which has already shown up in certain cards already:

Kris Bryant / Trout
Kris Bryant / Rizzo

* John Lackey
* Addison Russell
* That Kyle Hendricks low print card
* That Jorge Soler low print card
* Priscotty / Holliday

* Gary Sanchez 1st card

* Lack of /10 Reds for the sale on ebay (I thought there would be more available on ebay, more flipping of these)

* Lack of /1 golds for sale on ebay (same, I thought there would be much available on ebay, more flipping of these)


I think the 1/10's and 1/1's don't flip since Topps put such a high price tag on them. Not many people willing to put $1000 out for a 1/10 card. There are several on eBay
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Old 12-14-2016, 03:43 PM   #10064
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9 Hosmer's up
8 Ichiro's up 1 1/25
9 Betts and one 1/10 and the 1/1 can be bought on Amazon
16 #370 Bryant's including a Red with Cubs logo
20 Sanchez
15 389 Ortiz auto's including the 1/1 the 7/10 (that I sold and someone is trying to flip for more then the $800 he paid me)
1 of the 10 #420 Autographs is up (The 1/1)
Cubs #460 (Only 6 up with one graded 1/10...actually looks sweet and priced about at what it cost)
7 498's and two of the 1/10's
Nat's #501 (4 up)
3 Indians Relics and one of the 1/10 Autos
509 Sanchez' 2nd one 13 up with 2 of the 1/10's
517 4 up
So there are plenty of people trying to Flip these...
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Old 12-14-2016, 03:55 PM   #10065
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I think the 1/10's and 1/1's don't flip since Topps put such a high price tag on them. Not many people willing to put $1000 out for a 1/10 card. There are several on eBay
Two observations:

1) Every /10 red and /1 gold has been bought from topps now site, and most bought relatively fast. So there is obviously interest pre-after market.

2) I agree they are hard to flip due to what you mentioned. But they are also very few listed on ebay (relative). Here at the stats:

/10, REDS
The # of /10 Reds Sold via Topps Now = 410. That means there have been 41 different /10 sets of someone, so 410 total reds sold....(I included the DUAL purple Bryant/Harper as it is in effect the red of that series).

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of the 410 reds sold, 27 total reds are listed on ebay or 6.60%. I think that's pretty small. I would have imagined it would be 15-20% of the entire /10 run.


/1, GOLD
The # of /1 Golds sold via Topps Now = 41. That means there have been 41 different /1 sets of someone, so 41 total golds sold.

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of the 41 golds sold, only 3 are listed on ebay or 7.30%. I think this is also incredibly low.

What this shows:
There is real demand from these via Topps Now, but not much at all when they hit ebay. That's incredible. As Northy likes to say, Topps prices the /10 and /1 with not much meat on the bone.

It will be interesting to see how the /10 & /1 do in the future. Are they fully priced even 5 years out? Or is there real demand but somehow hidden? or locked up?

I probably started rambling a few paragraphs ago....sorry.


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Old 12-14-2016, 04:27 PM   #10066
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Two observations:

1) Every /10 red and /1 gold has been bought from topps now site, and most bought relatively fast. So there is obviously interest pre-after market.

2) I agree they are hard to flip due to what you mentioned. But they are also very few listed on ebay (relative). Here at the stats:

/10, REDS
The # of /10 Reds Sold via Topps Now = 410. That means there have been 41 different /10 sets of someone, so 410 total reds sold....(I included the DUAL purple Bryant/Harper as it is in effect the red of that series).

so

of the 410 reds sold, 27 total reds are listed on ebay or 6.60%. I think that's pretty small. I would have imagined it would be 15-20% of the entire /10 run.


/1, GOLD
The # of /1 Golds sold via Topps Now = 41. That means there have been 41 different /1 sets of someone, so 41 total golds sold.

so

of the 41 golds sold, only 3 are listed on ebay or 7.30%. I think this is also incredibly low.

What this shows:
There is real demand from these via Topps Now, but not much at all when they hit ebay. That's incredible. As Northy likes to say, Topps prices the /10 and /1 with not much meat on the bone.

It will be interesting to see how the /10 & /1 do in the future. Are they fully priced even 5 years out? Or is there real demand but somehow hidden? or locked up?

I probably started rambling a few paragraphs ago....sorry.


https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_n...Baseball+Relic

I do think most of the 1/10's were bought with no real attention on flipping and the ones that were sold have already swapped hands to someone who wants them badly. I've only sold one red myself and I picked up one at auction because it was cheaper then what Topps had sold it for originally. As for the future...I think some have real potential.
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Old 12-14-2016, 04:31 PM   #10067
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https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_n...Baseball+Relic

I do think most of the 1/10's were bought with no real attention on flipping and the ones that were sold have already swapped hands to someone who wants them badly. I've only sold one red myself and I picked up one at auction because it was cheaper then what Topps had sold it for originally. As for the future...I think some have real potential.
As you can see the Mookie Betts Buyer is just trying to get out from under it...just like the guy who bought my 1/10 Ortiz auto...If he drops it lower I might pick it up...that is one of the ones with the most potential. IMHO
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Old 12-14-2016, 04:39 PM   #10068
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Is the Kershaw Relic/Auto ever going to ship?
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Old 12-14-2016, 04:47 PM   #10069
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As you can see the Mookie Betts Buyer is just trying to get out from under it...just like the guy who bought my 1/10 Ortiz auto...If he drops it lower I might pick it up...that is one of the ones with the most potential. IMHO
I agree. If I had the dough, I might compete against you . But I think if you can get him down more, you're going to have a great card for future potential. Maybe go straight through paypal (lose ebay). You save on the 10% ebay fee, but lose the ebay guarantee though.

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Old 12-14-2016, 06:30 PM   #10070
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Chapman Game 5 relic shipping!
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Old 12-14-2016, 06:39 PM   #10071
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Confirm shipment notice for Chapman Game 5.
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Old 12-14-2016, 07:31 PM   #10072
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Chapman Game 5 relic shipping!
this relic card should be REALLY, REALLY Special as that is

* the only Wrigley Field Relic in the World Series with a Cub player on it. *** Corrected

* Game 5 was the only win at Wrigley during the World Series

* Game 5 of the World Series was also the last home game at Wrigley before the Cubs won it all.

This relic has potential.

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Old 12-14-2016, 07:42 PM   #10073
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this relic card should be REALLY, REALLY Special as that is

* the only Wrigley Field Relic in the World Series;

* Game 5 was the only win at Wrigley during the World Series

* Game 5 of the World Series was also the last home game at Wrigley before the Cubs won it all.

This relic has potential.
The Lindor relic above is from wrigley.
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Old 12-14-2016, 08:03 PM   #10074
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The Lindor relic above is from wrigley.
Can't believe I missed that. I'll correct above. Ty!
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Old 12-14-2016, 08:40 PM   #10075
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Can't believe I missed that. I'll correct above. Ty!
No worries. It's prob the only Cubs card relic from wrigley...if your a Cubs fan you prob wouldn't want the Lindor, so the xhapman will have that going for it.
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