**Official Luka Doncic Thread**

[messier2]

Luka White Sparkle PSA 10 ending tonight. It's $43K now...what will it end at???

[vktwinsfan]

Favorite design, so clean. This will probably be the end of my rainbow, still holding out hope for a purple or blue velocity though!


Untitled by eric vk, on Flickr

Untitled by eric vk, on Flickr

Untitled by eric vk, on Flickr

[KhalDrogo]

Mavs need to sign Joe Harris in the offseason.

[bberns]

Originally Posted by GeechQuest

Or I’m just checking the ratios and figuring it out based on watching case breaks. It’s also why I gave a range of 100-150.

Lebron Pursuits Sold: 21
Lebron Status /23: 4
Lebron Aspirations /77: 9

It is odd how any player you check sales data on will have similar ratios of Status/Aspiration/Pursuit sales from 2018.

Each vet has 110 numbered cards, each rookie has 120.

Lebron has had 13 of his 110 numbered cards sold to 21 pursuit
Steph has had 8 of his 110 numbered cards sold to 15 pursuit.
Giannis has has 11 of his 110 numbered cards sold to 17 pursuit.

Weird how those ratios are all the same. I could do the rookies and you’d see the same thing. But alas, the pursuits are obviously >20 because everybody who has one says they are.

Separate question - Will there ever be a day when Panini will release the print runs for these so that we can know for sure?

[Onepocketj]

Originally Posted by bberns

Separate question - Will there ever be a day when Panini will release the print runs for these so that we can know for sure?

No, just like the Bronze, retail red and retail blue prizms. They like to keep us guessing.

[PacklineD]

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

Mavs need to sign Joe Harris in the offseason.

God I would love that. Agree that he'd fit very, very well off the ball with Luka. He'd get 5+ wide open 3 point looks a night. He's gonna get a really nice contract from somebody. 15 boards today!?!?!

Sorry back to Luka.....

[GeechQuest]

Originally Posted by bberns

Separate question - Will there ever be a day when Panini will release the print runs for these so that we can know for sure?

No, but it's not hard to get rough estimations based on the fact that these product have numbered parallels.

It's the same way guys like myself, sportscardanalytics, and countless others have back engineered these unnumbered SPs.

It's easier to do with Hobby only releases than retail releases with multiple configurations but it's still not impossible. Actual counts (Spectra Color Blast is 10 copies) isn't going to happen because of hold backs, but rough estimations (Spectra Color Blast is 8-13 copies) is enough.

I don't know why it is, it's not your fault or Onepocketj, but with these damn Pursuit parallels drive me crazy. People legitimately believe them to be short printed when it couldn't be further from the truth. At least in the way I determine SP card (Galactic, Color Blast, Optic Preview, 17/18 Pursuit).

I had the same arguments when I was talking about the PR of the Courtside Silver in Select. That was an SP card but for the longest time nobody paid attention and when I'd bring it up or post about it I'd get kick back on that as well.

All I want is proper information out there. In regards to the 18/19 Pursuit, those who have busted cases know what's up. There more common than the #'d cards in Status and we KNOW how many numbered cards there are.

For the record, I own no 18/19 Pursuits and have no dog in the fight.

[beavers]

Originally Posted by GeechQuest

No, but it's not hard to get rough estimations based on the fact that these product have numbered parallels.

It's the same way guys like myself, sportscardanalytics, and countless others have back engineered these unnumbered SPs.

It's easier to do with Hobby only releases than retail releases with multiple configurations but it's still not impossible. Actual counts (Spectra Color Blast is 10 copies) isn't going to happen because of hold backs, but rough estimations (Spectra Color Blast is 8-13 copies) is enough.

I don't know why it is, it's not your fault or Onepocketj, but with these damn Pursuit parallels drive me crazy. People legitimately believe them to be short printed when it couldn't be further from the truth. At least in the way I determine SP card (Galactic, Color Blast, Optic Preview, 17/18 Pursuit).

I had the same arguments when I was talking about the PR of the Courtside Silver in Select. That was an SP card but for the longest time nobody paid attention and when I'd bring it up or post about it I'd get kick back on that as well.

All I want is proper information out there. In regards to the 18/19 Pursuit, those who have busted cases know what's up. There more common than the #'d cards in Status and we KNOW how many numbered cards there are.

What are you thoughts on the print runs of the bronze chrome cards in Chronicles? Specifically the Crusade bronze. I ask because I bought the only Luka that has come up and am surprised we haven't seen others show their face yet.

[GeechQuest]

Originally Posted by beavers

What are you thoughts on the print runs of the bronze chrome cards in Chronicles? Specifically the Crusade bronze. I ask because I bought the only Luka that has come up and am surprised we haven't seen others show their face yet.

No clue. Chronicles does nothing for me so I've never even seen a break of the stuff. Status is my favorite product from last season, so there's my dog.

[Chris P]

Originally Posted by GeechQuest

No, but it's not hard to get rough estimations based on the fact that these product have numbered parallels.

It's the same way guys like myself, sportscardanalytics, and countless others have back engineered these unnumbered SPs.

It's easier to do with Hobby only releases than retail releases with multiple configurations but it's still not impossible. Actual counts (Spectra Color Blast is 10 copies) isn't going to happen because of hold backs, but rough estimations (Spectra Color Blast is 8-13 copies) is enough.

I don't know why it is, it's not your fault or Onepocketj, but with these damn Pursuit parallels drive me crazy. People legitimately believe them to be short printed when it couldn't be further from the truth. At least in the way I determine SP card (Galactic, Color Blast, Optic Preview, 17/18 Pursuit).

I had the same arguments when I was talking about the PR of the Courtside Silver in Select. That was an SP card but for the longest time nobody paid attention and when I'd bring it up or post about it I'd get kick back on that as well.

All I want is proper information out there. In regards to the 18/19 Pursuit, those who have busted cases know what's up. There more common than the #'d cards in Status and we KNOW how many numbered cards there are.

For the record, I own no 18/19 Pursuits and have no dog in the fight.

I know that I busted a 20 Blaster NPP Case and pulled 3 Pursuits (Jaylen Brown, Jonathan Williams, Bogdon Bojanovich)

[Onepocketj]

Originally Posted by GeechQuest

No, but it's not hard to get rough estimations based on the fact that these product have numbered parallels.

It's the same way guys like myself, sportscardanalytics, and countless others have back engineered these unnumbered SPs.

It's easier to do with Hobby only releases than retail releases with multiple configurations but it's still not impossible. Actual counts (Spectra Color Blast is 10 copies) isn't going to happen because of hold backs, but rough estimations (Spectra Color Blast is 8-13 copies) is enough.

I don't know why it is, it's not your fault or Onepocketj, but with these damn Pursuit parallels drive me crazy. People legitimately believe them to be short printed when it couldn't be further from the truth. At least in the way I determine SP card (Galactic, Color Blast, Optic Preview, 17/18 Pursuit).

I had the same arguments when I was talking about the PR of the Courtside Silver in Select. That was an SP card but for the longest time nobody paid attention and when I'd bring it up or post about it I'd get kick back on that as well.

All I want is proper information out there. In regards to the 18/19 Pursuit, those who have busted cases know what's up. There more common than the #'d cards in Status and we KNOW how many numbered cards there are.

For the record, I own no 18/19 Pursuits and have no dog in the fight.

I'm done talking about it but we're just going to disagree. Tradingcarddb even lists them as SSP.

There is no way there are 150 out there but only 1/3 as many have been sold as Orange Mosaic /99 or Prizm Blue Ice /99. Plus the fact that there are only 5 graded of each tells me all I need to know, no matter how "elementary" you feel the pop report is. If it jumps to 50 in the next few months, then I'll change my mind. But there's a reason these rarely show up for sale and command such a premium when they do.

[Onepocketj]

I feel a monster game coming in 3 hours...

[GeechQuest]

Originally Posted by Onepocketj

I'm done talking about it but we're just going to disagree. Tradingcarddb even lists them as SSP.

There is no way there are 150 out there but only 1/3 as many have been sold as Orange Mosaic /99 or Prizm Blue Ice /99. Plus the fact that there are only 5 graded of each tells me all I need to know, no matter how "elementary" you feel the pop report is. If it jumps to 50 in the next few months, then I'll change my mind. But there's a reason these rarely show up for sale and command such a premium when they do.

Because nobody opens Status. That’s the reason.

Instead of comparing the total to numbered cards in products that were opened (Mosaic and Prizm) why not just compare it to numbered cards in Status? It makes no logical sense to do it the way you’re doing it.

Every single player has numbered cards and Pursuits in Status. The top guys who are sold have ALL has more Pursuit parallels sold than their numbered counterparts.

This isn’t rocket science.

[CollectingKarma]

Originally Posted by Onepocketj

I feel a monster game coming in 3 hours...

All he knows is monster mode. I think the Clips will have a better defensive effort this game though so he'll get his but take an L also.

[Onepocketj]

Originally Posted by CollectingKarma

All he knows is monster mode. I think the Clips will have a better defensive effort this game though so he'll get his but take an L also.

Well hopefully the refs don't kick KP out of this one so they have a better chance.

[theLUCKYshow]

Originally Posted by Onepocketj

Well hopefully the refs don't kick KP out of this one so they have a better chance.

I have a feeling KPs gonna get 30/15 tonight. Mavs need it if they want to win.

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[Onepocketj]

Originally Posted by theLUCKYshow

I have a feeling KPs gonna get 30/15 tonight. Mavs need it if they want to win.

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I think he'll have a big game as well. Hopefully the Mavs can make a series out of it.

[Mavsfan1982]

My collection so far. It’s not as much as some of you but it’s a start. Got the silver prizm and optic holo first as I thought those would be his “iconic” cards to have. I’ve been trying to add numbered or SP Luka’s now.

[OJMayo32]

Originally Posted by Mavsfan1982

My collection so far. It’s not as much as some of you but it’s a start. Got the silver prizm and optic holo first as I thought those would be his “iconic” cards to have. I’ve been trying to add numbered or SP Luka’s now.

Nice start of a collection.

I still need a Optic Holo eventually

[Mavsfan1982]

Originally Posted by OJMayo32

Nice start of a collection.

I still need a Optic Holo eventually

I bought my optic holo back in May for $2k. They had made a jump but nothing like now.

[Trout Fan]

Would a Luka card numbered to 77 have any significance
in a series? Or do you actually have to have the specific
card with the jersey number 77 on it

[Onepocketj]

Originally Posted by Trout Fan

Would a Luka card numbered to 77 have any significance
in a series? Or do you actually have to have the specific
card with the jersey number 77 on it

Do you mean like the 2019 Elite /77?

[Trout Fan]

Originally Posted by Onepocketj

Do you mean like the 2019 Elite /77?

Either the 2019 Elite /77 or 2018 Status / 77 as examples.

[Onepocketj]

Originally Posted by Trout Fan

Either the 2019 Elite /77 or 2018 Status / 77 as examples.

I don't think they have any extra value other than the value associated with being low number parallels. The jersey numbers are the cards with extra value. For some reason, people go crazy for those.

[Trout Fan]

Originally Posted by Onepocketj

I don't think they have any extra value other than the value associated with being low number parallels. The jersey numbers are the cards with extra value. For some reason, people go crazy for those.

I agree! Thanks