WWE Discussion thread- Raw/SD/PPV

[cdub6238]

Originally Posted by BoxBreaker72

Sandow has done the best job I have ever seen taking a putrid gimmick and turning it into gold.

They shouldn't have to see anything else from this guy. He's over.

I agree..however there is a problem

he was also over before when he was doing his impersonations/mockings as a heel before..

how is he going to keep the fans on his side when he trys to play the straight wrestler without the goofy personality side to his gimmick

[mnvikingstwins]

Originally Posted by cdub6238

I agree..however there is a problem

he was also over before when he was doing his impersonations/mockings as a heel before..

how is he going to keep the fans on his side when he trys to play the straight wrestler without the goofy personality side to his gimmick

He was a solid heel as the intellectual savior as well. He's definitely versatile, so even if he replaces Santino and has feuds like Miz did with Cena back in 2009 with a lot of gimmick matches he can still be a solid piece. He did less mimicking today, so hopefully they'll split at Rumble and he'll eliminate Miz.

[BoxBreaker72]

Originally Posted by cdub6238

I agree..however there is a problem

he was also over before when he was doing his impersonations/mockings as a heel before..

how is he going to keep the fans on his side when he trys to play the straight wrestler without the goofy personality side to his gimmick

That's a good point.

I kind of relate it to Bryan. He was over before but when he was paired with Kane in team hell no it took him into another galaxy. It allowed him to connect with even more people that were not sold on him before.

[CharlieHustle]

Originally Posted by hitman1116

yea but he wanted Seth Rollins. Now if Seth Rollins "wins" he gets him and him alone at Rumble makes sense to me.

You guys are missing the point. The show starts with Lesnar coming out as an unstoppable monster. He's willing to go through Triple H to get to Rollins.

2 hours later, he's a cool headed "prize fighter" who only takes fights on the big stage.
So, the last 7 days weren't enough to cool off, but the last 2 hours were, due to a stipulation working in his favor? When then what's the point of playing him up as a hotheaded beast, when he's going to let a cooler head prevail?
It's a character reversal in the middle of a show.

[natbornkiller]

paging super- cena
paging super cena

[BoxBreaker72]

Sting!!! lol!

[mnvikingstwins]

Sting! Sting!

[fazzle]

Oh man this 55 year old man on the titantron is so terrifying! All seven of us have to forget what we're doing and concentrate on him!

[hitman1116]

called it!!

[mnvikingstwins]

Ended really early

[GoldStandard000]

That ending was awesome!!! Best RAW ending in a long time!

[justdagoodstuff]

Wrestling today shells in comparison to wrestling in the 80s and 90s.

[mnvikingstwins]

So 2 good as confirmed matches for WM in HHH/Sting and Undertaker/Wyatt gives a solid 2nd and 3rd best match already. Too soon for a Shield triple threat match?

[gorillaz]

Originally Posted by mnvikingstwins

You've got time to get there and buy a ticket from a street. I did that for Raw in Minneapolis back in June, was supposed to umpire a game but found out at 6:00 that it was cancelled but nobody bothered to tell me earlier, so made it down in time for second segment since the opener was already announced.

Sold out arena apparently

[Wolves4Life]

Originally Posted by mnvikingstwins

Ended really early

They will make that up in the WrestleMania push starting next week or in mid feb thru march.

[Kingofkings1281]

I thought it would be Orton, but Sting was even more of a surprise. Loved seeing Lesnar wreck everyone too. Awesome Raw. Which means HHH probably booked it.

[gorillaz]

Originally Posted by mnvikingstwins

Ascension stands zero chance of getting over. Neither is a good talker, tall guy is just plain fat, and smaller guy doesn't have a very impressive build at all.

I watched an old ascension promo presentation skills on youtube where guys in nxt would cut a promo in the performance center. Viktor did good with Konnor acting as the "brawn" behind the scenario. With this new gimmick however, it isn't gonna go anywhere.

[hitman1116]

Originally Posted by mnvikingstwins

So 2 good as confirmed matches for WM in HHH/Sting and Undertaker/Wyatt gives a solid 2nd and 3rd best match already. Too soon for a Shield triple threat match?

that's if Taker is ok to go

figure you are going to still have to have matches with Ambrose, Rollins, Cena, Reigns, Lesnar, Orton, Barrett, Rusev, and Orton at least. Tons of talent to use

[mnvikingstwins]

Originally Posted by hitman1116

that's if Taker is ok to go

figure you are going to still have to have matches with Ambrose, Rollins, Cena, Reigns, Lesnar, Orton, Barrett, Rusev, and Orton at least. Tons of talent to use

Hopefully they don't lump most of them into the battle royale. Rusev over Cena would be a good match.

[Wolves4Life]

Ascension need a talker even the greats like LOD/Demolition and others had a manager who talked for them.

[mma138]

horrible raw , I think there were 2 matches in the first two hours . im getting sick of these raw reunions. what is the point ?

it would have ben cool if sting was dropped from the ceiling and grabbed triple h and brought him up with him .

pretty good ending with brock lifting over a thousand pounds , damn picked up big show like nuthin ....

[Wolves4Life]

Originally Posted by mma138

horrible raw , I think there were 2 matches in the first two hours . im getting sick of these raw reunions. what is the point ?

it would have ben cool if sting was dropped from the ceiling and grabbed triple h and brought him up with him .
pretty good ending with brock lifting over a thousand pounds , damn picked up big show like nuthin ....

Yeah.....No one is coming from the rafters anymore and this is not a joke, WWE will never take that chance again.

[cdub6238]

Originally Posted by Wolves4Life

Ascension need a talker even the greats like LOD/Demolition and others had a manager who talked for them.

huh?

LOD had Paul Ellering as a MANAGER...he hardly ever talked for them though..

same with Demolition..they had Mr Fuji as a manager..and if you think he did the talking for them, then i really dunno what to tell you

[hitman1116]

Originally Posted by cdub6238

huh?

LOD had Paul Ellering as a MANAGER...he hardly ever talked for them though..

same with Demolition..they had Mr Fuji as a manager..and if you think he did the talking for them, then i really dunno what to tell you

agreed.

I'd say they are more like Harlem Heat when they first started. Can't really handle the mic so they put Sherri and Col. Parker with them

[Wolves4Life]

Originally Posted by cdub6238

huh?

LOD had Paul Ellering as a MANAGER...he hardly ever talked for them though..

same with Demolition..they had Mr Fuji as a manager..and if you think he did the talking for them, then i really dunno what to tell you

Paul and Fuji would usually start the promo and they would leave spots for their wrestlers to finish. I didn't mean they would cut the whole promo for them.