✹The PERENNIAL Shohei Ohtani Thread✹ - Page 45

tblood · 04-21-2021, 12:09 AM

It’s been said before... but just because something isn’t being done or hasn’t been done before, doesn’t mean it can’t. There haven’t been many, if any, players who can pitch and hit at the level Shohei is capable of. So, they have always been better off focusing on one. The age at which American players are being told to choose being a position player or pitcher is younger than ever. Most high level players aren’t given the option to try both once they are 15-18yrs old. As a result, the chances of finding a legitimate two way player are lower now than they were in the past.

There have been a few bumps in the road with Shohei. But I hope there have been just as many lessons learned. It is to be expected when attempting to do something that’s never been done at this level in modern baseball. But, I think he has a darn good shot at figuring it out!

I think it is incredibly exciting to witness a player like him grow, develop and break boundaries. I wish more people would spend more time enjoying it and less time questioning it.

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al3xmac10 · 04-21-2021, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by tblood

It’s been said before... but just because something isn’t being done or hasn’t been done before, doesn’t mean it can’t. There haven’t been many, if any, players who can pitch and hit at the level Shohei is capable of. So, they have always been better off focusing on one. The age at which American players are being told to choose being a position player or pitcher is younger than ever. Most high level players aren’t given the option to try both once they are 15-18yrs old. As a result, the chances of finding a legitimate two way player are lower now than they were in the past.

There have been a few bumps in the road with Shohei. But I hope there have been just as many lessons learned. It is to be expected when attempting to do something that’s never been done at this level in modern baseball. But, I think he has a darn good shot at figuring it out!

I think it is incredibly exciting to witness a player like him grow, develop and break boundaries. I wish more people would spend more time enjoying it and less time questioning it.

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AMEN!

...and going back to cards...

RED (1/1) x RED (team color) x RED (PSA label)

tblood · 04-21-2021, 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by al3xmac10

AMEN!

...and going back to cards...

RED (1/1) x RED (team color) x RED (PSA label)

That is so nice that it is a shame they didn’t make two!

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hammertime · 04-21-2021, 01:43 AM

A lot of the comments here make me think of Sandy Koufax, who struggled with control issues for half of his major league career.
https://sports.jrank.org/pages/2610/...l-Problem.html

"He began to sacrifice speed for accuracy. Slowly, Koufax gained control of his unruly fastball. Koufax explained his transformation in John Grabowski's book, Sandy Koufax, saying that he became a good pitcher when he stopped trying to make batters miss the ball and started trying to make them hit it."

NYRE2PECT · 04-21-2021, 07:01 AM

The kid only has 14 starts and 62 innings pitched. If he can stay healthy, watch out because he is still learning. So, so promising.

base set · 04-21-2021, 08:04 AM

I was wondering if there were any historical comps on “effectively wild”

al3xmac10 · 04-21-2021, 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by base set

I was wondering if there were any historical comps on “effectively wild”

Ricky Vaughn?

dodgerfanjohn · 04-21-2021, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by base set

I was wondering if there were any historical comps on “effectively wild”

Randy Johnson.
Sandy Koufax.

Tim · 04-21-2021, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by base set

I was wondering if there were any historical comps on “effectively wild”

Nuke LaLoosh

base set · 04-21-2021, 09:35 AM

Nuke vs. WildThing. No one wants to bat.

NYRE2PECT · 04-21-2021, 04:02 PM

Sho Time! Homer #5!

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BigSlim16 · 04-21-2021, 04:02 PM

Shotime!

NYRE2PECT · 04-21-2021, 04:09 PM

Love to see him running hard out of the box after the other night.

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Vdm2018 · 04-21-2021, 04:13 PM

Monster!!

Philthy · 04-22-2021, 07:06 PM

I recently bought this and its probably the most expensive single card I own. I love watching this guy play and was super excited to add it to the collection.

SGC300ier · 04-23-2021, 05:49 PM

I bought a couple of '18 Chrome value packs and a box, chasing after some Soto. Pulled 2 Ohtani Pinks. Turned out to be pretty solid.

I had no idea how big that dude is.

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LVDan · 04-23-2021, 06:01 PM

I thought I broke two unique cherries for me last night:
-bought my 1st Ohtani card
-bought my first non RC in FOREVER
I was doing some searches for my bums and went to check "sellers other items for sale" to save on shipping. I saw a 19 Sapphire Ohtani card for like $10.50. That felt kinda cheap so I slammed the BIN.
Sale was cancelled this morning and after looking into it for a minute I think it was one of those deals where it sold BIN a month ago then was accidentally re-listed by ebay. Its happened to me a few times like that. No biggie and not a huge card but I was oh so close!

al3xmac10 · 04-23-2021, 08:18 PM

Single, SB, strikeout so far...

al3xmac10 · 04-23-2021, 08:44 PM

single, SB
SO
RBI double

zbaseball21 · 04-23-2021, 08:47 PM

Fletcher cost Ohtani a triple by not going home on that. Ohtani gestured to him like 'why didn't you go!'

NYRE2PECT · 04-23-2021, 08:48 PM

Sho Time - love this guy.

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NYRE2PECT · 04-23-2021, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by zbaseball21

Fletcher cost Ohtani a triple by not going home on that. Ohtani gestured to him like 'why didn't you go!'

Just watched the replay and he broke back to first. Bummer!

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al3xmac10 · 04-23-2021, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by zbaseball21

Fletcher cost Ohtani a triple by not going home on that. Ohtani gestured to him like 'why didn't you go!'

Yes, he did!
Here's the video (updated):

https://www.mlb.com/video/zack-grein...=CMS_FIRST&p=0

BigSlim16 · 04-24-2021, 04:02 PM

Shotime! Homerun #6!

Trueblue · 04-24-2021, 04:02 PM

Bomb!!

04-21-2021, 04:02 PM	#1111
NYRE2PECT Member Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: San Antonio Posts: 7,658	✹The PERENNIAL Shohei Ohtani Thread✹ Sho Time! Homer #5! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Primarily retired from collecting, but doing a Greatest Sho-man binder thing. I do love California Angels baseball.

04-21-2021, 04:09 PM	#1113
NYRE2PECT Member Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: San Antonio Posts: 7,658	Love to see him running hard out of the box after the other night. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Primarily retired from collecting, but doing a Greatest Sho-man binder thing. I do love California Angels baseball.

04-23-2021, 06:01 PM	#1117
LVDan Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Posts: 17,460	I thought I broke two unique cherries for me last night: -bought my 1st Ohtani card -bought my first non RC in FOREVER I was doing some searches for my bums and went to check "sellers other items for sale" to save on shipping. I saw a 19 Sapphire Ohtani card for like $10.50. That felt kinda cheap so I slammed the BIN. Sale was cancelled this morning and after looking into it for a minute I think it was one of those deals where it sold BIN a month ago then was accidentally re-listed by ebay. Its happened to me a few times like that. No biggie and not a huge card but I was oh so close! __________________ So we cheated and we lied and we tested. And we never failed to fail; it was the easiest thing to do.

04-23-2021, 08:18 PM	#1118
al3xmac10 Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 13,199 al3xmac10	Single, SB, strikeout so far... __________________ Instagram: al3xmac10 Always looking for rare Shohei Ohtani 2018 autos & [Ichiro 2016 Topps Now #154 Inscription Auto /10]

04-23-2021, 08:44 PM	#1119
al3xmac10 Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 13,199 al3xmac10	single, SB SO RBI double __________________ Instagram: al3xmac10 Always looking for rare Shohei Ohtani 2018 autos & [Ichiro 2016 Topps Now #154 Inscription Auto /10]

04-21-2021, 12:09 AM	#1101
tblood Member Join Date: Jan 2020 Location: OH-IO Posts: 751	It’s been said before... but just because something isn’t being done or hasn’t been done before, doesn’t mean it can’t. There haven’t been many, if any, players who can pitch and hit at the level Shohei is capable of. So, they have always been better off focusing on one. The age at which American players are being told to choose being a position player or pitcher is younger than ever. Most high level players aren’t given the option to try both once they are 15-18yrs old. As a result, the chances of finding a legitimate two way player are lower now than they were in the past. There have been a few bumps in the road with Shohei. But I hope there have been just as many lessons learned. It is to be expected when attempting to do something that’s never been done at this level in modern baseball. But, I think he has a darn good shot at figuring it out! I think it is incredibly exciting to witness a player like him grow, develop and break boundaries. I wish more people would spend more time enjoying it and less time questioning it. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

04-21-2021, 01:43 AM	#1104
hammertime Member Join Date: May 2020 Location: OH->MI->MD->VA Posts: 6,506	A lot of the comments here make me think of Sandy Koufax, who struggled with control issues for half of his major league career. https://sports.jrank.org/pages/2610/...l-Problem.html "He began to sacrifice speed for accuracy. Slowly, Koufax gained control of his unruly fastball. Koufax explained his transformation in John Grabowski's book, Sandy Koufax, saying that he became a good pitcher when he stopped trying to make batters miss the ball and started trying to make them hit it."

04-21-2021, 07:01 AM	#1105
NYRE2PECT Member Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: San Antonio Posts: 7,658	The kid only has 14 starts and 62 innings pitched. If he can stay healthy, watch out because he is still learning. So, so promising.

04-21-2021, 08:04 AM	#1106
base set Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: NW Michigan Posts: 9,362	I was wondering if there were any historical comps on “effectively wild”

04-21-2021, 09:35 AM	#1110
base set Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: NW Michigan Posts: 9,362	Nuke vs. WildThing. No one wants to bat.

04-21-2021, 04:02 PM	#1112
BigSlim16 Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Posts: 4,332	Shotime!

04-21-2021, 04:13 PM	#1114
Vdm2018 Member Join Date: Apr 2019 Location: New York Posts: 2,042 Vqle280z	Monster!!

04-22-2021, 07:06 PM	#1115
Philthy Member Join Date: Apr 2020 Location: Nebraska Posts: 1,144	I recently bought this and its probably the most expensive single card I own. I love watching this guy play and was super excited to add it to the collection.

04-23-2021, 05:49 PM	#1116
SGC300ier Member Join Date: Jun 2019 Location: Michigan Posts: 5,079 sgc_collectiblez	I bought a couple of '18 Chrome value packs and a box, chasing after some Soto. Pulled 2 Ohtani Pinks. Turned out to be pretty solid. I had no idea how big that dude is. Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk

04-23-2021, 08:47 PM	#1120
zbaseball21 Member Join Date: May 2014 Posts: 1,169	Fletcher cost Ohtani a triple by not going home on that. Ohtani gestured to him like 'why didn't you go!'

04-23-2021, 08:48 PM	#1121
NYRE2PECT Member Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: San Antonio Posts: 7,658	Sho Time - love this guy. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Primarily retired from collecting, but doing a Greatest Sho-man binder thing. I do love California Angels baseball.

04-24-2021, 04:02 PM	#1124
BigSlim16 Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Posts: 4,332	Shotime! Homerun #6!

04-24-2021, 04:02 PM	#1125
Trueblue Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: socal Posts: 6,260	Bomb!!