Topps Living Set

[eldavojohn]

Originally Posted by Joliet Jake

Cards look amazing today! Especially the Stargell by Kelley. Just fantastic.

Love the Stargell, Kelley should be proud of that one! Love the player too but as I stated before that shoulda been Akil Baddoo instead of Willie Stargell.

I know it takes time to plan and work out with the artists/MLBPA but Topps needs to cash in on erratic talent now and reserve those HoF before this set becomes Topps Traded Living Set.

[Joliet Jake]

Originally Posted by eldavojohn

Love the Stargell, Kelley should be proud of that one! Love the player too but as I stated before that shoulda been Akil Baddoo instead of Willie Stargell.

I know it takes time to plan and work out with the artists/MLBPA but Topps needs to cash in on erratic talent now and reserve those HoF before this set becomes Topps Traded Living Set.

I know Jared mentioned that he receives the player and reference photo 7-10 days before his submission date, which is a week before release date. Knowing that, I agree, Baddoo should've already been on Topps radar. Hopefully next week, but I would be surprised if Topps released Tigers cards in back-to-back weeks.

[TUAlum96]

Originally Posted by Joliet Jake

I would be surprised if Topps released Tigers cards in back-to-back weeks.

I’m just hoping for Royals cards in back-to-back years!

[ewokpelts]

Originally Posted by blitzaceod

Koufax, Drysdale and Garvey are all good choices (and Koufax at 500 or some other important number makes sense) but I would also love to see Fernando get one

They should do Fernando in October. As the 40th anniversary of that title run is this year.

[Joliet Jake]

Originally Posted by TUAlum96

I’m just hoping for Royals cards in back-to-back years!

There are currently 10 Royals cards.

2018

11 Alex Gordon
70 Bo Jackson

2019

143 Ryan O'Hearn RC
189 Hunter Dozier
228 Jorge Soler
264 Brad Keller RC

2020

277 Whit Merrifield
287 George Brett
309 Salvador Perez
349 Adalberto Mondesi

That's a good stretch without a Royals card, 61 and counting.

[Joliet Jake]

AL East - 72
Baltimore Orioles - 10
Boston Red Sox - 13
New York Yankees - 23
Tampa Bay Rays - 13
Toronto Blue Jays - 13

AL Central - 64
Chicago White Sox - 15
Cleveland Indians - 14
Detroit Tigers - 11
Kansas City Royals - 10
Minnesota Twins - 14

AL West - 65
Angels - 13
Houston Astros - 15
Oakland Athletics - 17
Seattle Mariners - 12
Texas Rangers - 8

NL East - 77
Atlanta Braves/Milwaukee Braves - 17/1 - 18
Miami Marlins/Florida Marlins - 10/2 - 12
New York Mets - 14
Philadelphia Phillies - 15
Washington Nationals/Montréal Expos - 15/3 - 18

NL Central - 64
Chicago Cubs - 13
Cincinnati Reds - 13
Milwaukee Brewers - 10
Pittsburgh Pirates - 13
St. Louis Cardinals - 15

NL West - 68
Arizona Diamondbacks - 11
Colorado Rockies - 10
Los Angeles Dodgers/Brooklyn Dodgers - 18/1 - 19
San Diego Padres - 16
San Francisco Giants/New York Giants - 11/1 - 12

[Joliet Jake]

There have been 118 rookie cards to date, accounting for 28.78% of the set. I'm working on the ratio of Hall of Fame, active, retired, and deceased players, too.

[jefflasvegas]

Originally Posted by Joliet Jake

AL East - 728
NL Central - 64
Chicago Cubs - 13
Cincinnati Reds - 13
Milwaukee Brewers - 10
Pittsburgh Pirates - 13
St. Louis Cardinals - 15

Looks like a good time for a Robin Yount or Paul Molitor!!!

[yanman]

Originally Posted by Joliet Jake

There have been 118 rookie cards to date, accounting for 28.78% of the set. I'm working on the ratio of Hall of Fame, active, retired, and deceased players, too.

My count was only 116 rookies. I could have missed a couple.

52 HOFers ~ 12.7% - with 264 current HOFers (excluding managers, executives, umpires, and PIOs) we are almost 20% of the way through all hall of famers.
18 Retired, non-HOF ~ 4.4%
9 Players featured on a 2nd card with a different team. ~ 2.0%


As far as HOF cards go:
Yankees - 5
Tigers and Pirates - 4
Orioles and Expos - 3 (Guerrero Sr. is in the HOF as an Angel, but Living Set Card is pictured as an Expo)

Phillies, Angels, Brewers, SF Giants, LA Dodgers (I make a distinction for city changes regardless of franchise continuity) - 0

Rays, Marlins, Nationals - No HOFers

[kidfan9]

Wonder who the first manager/owner/mascot card will be of and when it will appear.

[Lawmaker]

Originally Posted by kidfan9

Wonder who the first manager/owner/mascot card will be of and when it will appear.

Need a Billy Martin card

[eldavojohn]

14,028 on the Mantle PR lol

[okumeister]

Did anybody here buy the Yamamoto fine art print and selling?
I forgot to buy it, but realizing I should have bought it.
I have the Game within the Game Trout or Soto fine art prints for trade, so let me know if anybody here bought it and willing to trade or sell.

Print run is only 9, so not sure if anybody bought other than for PC, but figured it's worth asking here...

[BH34]

Anyone else wondering if Mantle was Seto's final TLS card?

[okumeister]

Originally Posted by BH34

Anyone else wondering if Mantle was Seto's final TLS card?

The latest one, Jeimer Candelario is also Seto's work.
So, she's not done yet, and I hope she has more upcoming works.

[jaredkelley]

Originally Posted by BH34

Anyone else wondering if Mantle was Seto's final TLS card?

I really hope not.

[yanman]

Originally Posted by eldavojohn

14,028 on the Mantle PR lol

Highest PR since Trout all the way back in June 2019.

[yanman]

The Living Set Print Run.pdf

Chart of print runs with some of the highest PRs called out. For those that might be interested... I'm a nerd with the data for this set.

[eldavojohn]

Originally Posted by yanman

Attachment 506382

Chart of print runs with some of the highest PRs called out. For those that might be interested... I'm a nerd with the data for this set.

Kinda crazy that the Luis Robert still sells for $16+ at auction. I did not buy them direct from topps, assumed they would be overprinted then had to pay extra to get a handful of them later. Pretty much stopped doing the wait and see approach after him.

[Joliet Jake]

Originally Posted by yanman

My count was only 116 rookies. I could have missed a couple.

52 HOFers ~ 12.7% - with 264 current HOFers (excluding managers, executives, umpires, and PIOs) we are almost 20% of the way through all hall of famers.
18 Retired, non-HOF ~ 4.4%
8 Players featured on a 2nd card with a different team. ~ 2.0%


As far as HOF cards go:
Yankees - 5
Tigers and Pirates - 4
Orioles and Expos - 3 (Guerrero Sr. is in the HOF as an Angel, but Living Set Card is pictured as an Expo)

Phillies, Angels, Brewers, SF Giants, LA Dodgers (I make a distinction for city changes regardless of franchise continuity) - 0

Rays, Marlins, Nationals - No HOFers

For those interested in the eight players featured twice, see below. Players listed in chronological order of their first card.

Player /Card Total PR - /Fine Art Print Total PR (Artist)
*Indicates their second Fine Art Print has not been released.

Nicholas/Nick Castellanos /5564 - /63*
2018 - 3 - Detroit Tigers /3639 - /63 (MS)
2020 - 339 - Cincinnati Reds /1925 - /* (MS)

Bryce Harper /17748 - /99
2018 - 13 - Washington Nationals /9515 - /57 (MS)
2019 - 163 - Philadelphia Phillies /8233 - /42 (MS)

Manny Machado /11318 - /34
2018 - 37 - Baltimore Orioles /6516 - /18 (MS)
2018 - 88 - Los Angeles Dodgers /4802 - /16 (MS)

Yasiel Puig /7201 - /37
2018 - 66 - Los Angeles Dodgers /4886 - /18 (MS)
2019 - 238 - Cleveland Indians /2315 - /19 (MS)

Avisail Garcia /6418 - /24
2018 - 78 - Chicago White Sox /4520 - /13 (MS)
2020 - 311 - Milwaukee Brewers /1898 - /11 (MS)

Nolan Arenado /6670 - /73*
2018 - 109 - Colorado Rockies /4065 - /73 (MS)
2021 - 403 - St. Louis Cardinals /2605 - /* (MS)

Anthony Rendon /4836 - /44*
2019 - 157 - Washington Nationals /2899 - /44 (MS)
2021 - 397 - Angels /1937 - /* (MS)

Gerrit Cole /5651 - /36*
2019 - 247 - Houston Astros /2632 - /36 (MS)
2021 - 377 - New York Yankees /3019 - /* (JK)

[eldavojohn]

Originally Posted by Joliet Jake

For those interested in the eight players featured twice, see below. Players listed in chronological order of their first card.

Player /Card Total PR - /Fine Art Print Total PR (Artist)
*Indicates their second Fine Art Print has not been released.

Nicholas/Nick Castellanos /5564 - /63*
2018 - 3 - Detroit Tigers /3639 - /63 (MS)
2020 - 339 - Cincinnati Reds /1925 - /* (MS)

Bryce Harper /17748 - /99
2018 - 13 - Washington Nationals /9515 - /57 (MS)
2019 - 163 - Philadelphia Phillies /8233 - /42 (MS)

Manny Machado /11318 - /34
2018 - 37 - Baltimore Orioles /6516 - /18 (MS)
2018 - 88 - Los Angeles Dodgers /4802 - /16 (MS)

Yasiel Puig /7201 - /37
2018 - 66 - Los Angeles Dodgers /4886 - /18 (MS)
2019 - 238 - Cleveland Indians /2315 - /19 (MS)

Avisail Garcia /6418 - /24
2018 - 78 - Chicago White Sox /4520 - /13 (MS)
2020 - 311 - Milwaukee Brewers /1898 - /11 (MS)

Nolan Arenado /6670 - /73*
2018 - 109 - Colorado Rockies /4065 - /73 (MS)
2021 - 403 - St. Louis Cardinals /2605 - /* (MS)

Anthony Rendon /4836 - /44*
2019 - 157 - Washington Nationals /2899 - /44 (MS)
2021 - 397 - Angels /1937 - /* (MS)

Gerrit Cole /5651 - /36*
2019 - 247 - Houston Astros /2632 - /36 (MS)
2021 - 377 - New York Yankees /3019 - /* (JK)

I think you missed J.P./JP Crawford (phillies/mariners)?

[Joliet Jake]

Originally Posted by jaredkelley

I really hope not.

Your reaction makes me even more impressed that she was releasing three cards per week for nearly two years.

[eldavojohn]

Originally Posted by Joliet Jake

Your reaction makes me even more impressed that she was releasing three cards per week for nearly two years.

Disclaimer: I cannot art for %&#% but if you want to see weekly pressures surely affecting quality, the UEFA Champions League artist is in my thoughts and prayers.

I've spoken with the Star Wars artist (Penix) and he doesn't even have time to speak.

[Joliet Jake]

Originally Posted by kidfan9

Wonder who the first manager/owner/mascot card will be of and when it will appear.

I would like to see Connie Mack or John McGraw as the first manager featured.

[Joliet Jake]

Originally Posted by eldavojohn

Disclaimer: I cannot art for %&#% but if you want to see weekly pressures surely affecting quality, the UEFA Champions League artist is in my thoughts and prayers.

I've spoken with the Star Wars artist (Penix) and he doesn't even have time to speak.

I'm in the same boat regarding my art skills, or lack thereof.

Full disclosure, I don't care for the UEFA Champions artist's style, however, I agree the workload is clearly taking its toll. The best decision Topps made with MLB Living Set was splitting the load, followed closely by initially dropping Seto's workload.