Ronald Acuña

[moosetequila]

Originally Posted by imbluestreak23

100% correct

But, I pitty those whose lives must be so miserable to ignore the 233 at bats at AAA that Acuna had last year where he batted over 0.340 and had a 0.940 OPS.

These non-investors come into threads like this, pumping their chest with "i told you so" type posts after...33 at bats, completely ignoring the high production of last year over an 8 fold larger sample size. Their lives must be so miserable that they are so upset on missing out on the cash! I'm a miserable person but not that miserable LOLZ!

I started it and I have a stash... so one blanket statement does not fit all

[boxbuster7]

Originally Posted by preakness

I think Acuna will be a very good major leaguer indeed
How many times have you seen him play on TV or in person?

I've watched him play on TV over 10 times, mostly during the AFL/spring training/ futures game. I've watched a ton of online video/analysis and the ball just comes off his bat differently. He makes it look so effortless.

John Sickels also gave him an A in his 2018 Braves top 20.

I do agree that it works both ways as him hitting over .400 in spring training probably made some people jump the gun. Trout hit .220 in his first 40 MLB games in 2011, and people were doing exactly what they are doing with Acuna now.

[21Pittsburgh58]

1. He is THE top prospect in the game
2. He had an amazing ST which elevated the hype and prospectors we’re excited.
3. His minor league numbers to date have tamed the hype for now.
4. People with none of his cards or non-Braves fans are excited that he might be a bust.

I understand excitement but have never understood negativity. Maybe I’m disillusioned because I’m a Russell Westbrook fan and he gets crapped on by a select few haters in the basketball forums. Seems like it’s happening here too and the kid is just getting started. Diminishing ones hopes for a player by fueling negativity towards the same player. I guess I just don’t understand why.

[ThoseBackPages]

Originally Posted by 21Pittsburgh58

1. He is THE top prospect in the game
2. He had an amazing ST which elevated the hype and prospectors we’re excited.
3. His minor league numbers to date have tamed the hype for now.
4. People with none of his cards or non-Braves fans are excited that he might be a bust.

I understand excitement but have never understood negativity. Maybe I’m disillusioned because I’m a Russell Westbrook fan and he gets crapped on by a select few haters in the basketball forums. Seems like it’s happening here too and the kid is just getting started. Diminishing ones hopes for a player by fueling negativity towards the same player. I guess I just don’t understand why.

because people love negativity

[Big35Hurt]

Originally Posted by Flkrsn5

Those who are deeply invested in a player don’t want to hear the truth. Not only because they do not want to be proven wrong, but because they don’t want their stash to take a hit in value. Good call on this!

This x 1000. It's funny and sad how objectivity is thrown out the window when someone has invested in a player.

[caulaflour]

Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

MOAR MEGAS!

Originally Posted by imbluestreak23

100% correct

But, I pitty those whose lives must be so miserable to ignore the 233 at bats at AAA that Acuna had last year where he batted over 0.340 and had a 0.940 OPS.

These non-investors come into threads like this, pumping their chest with "i told you so" type posts after...33 at bats, completely ignoring the high production of last year over an 8 fold larger sample size. Their lives must be so miserable that they are so upset on missing out on the cash! I'm a miserable person but not that miserable LOLZ!

First of all: The word is "pity."

Second of all: When did being objective become being "miserable"? Read a book.

Third of all: I believe your post was directed at posts such as mine earlier today. While I don't have a lot of the base chromes, I have a Bowman's Best Ref Auto, and a Bow Best Gold/50 Auto ($550 current market value roughly), so I actually DO have some Acuna I bought with the intention of making a few bucks.

I'm just not so....what'd you call it? "miserable?" that I'm unwilling to state how things are IN THIS MOMENT. I'm not worried about him, but I'm living in the now (for those of you who are old enough, pan to Garth calling out Wayne as he views his future guitar). As such, I'm not going to say "0-5 today, he's AWESOME!!! MEGA!! ACUNA FOR PRESIDENT, LOOK AT MY STASH, LOOK AT WHAT PRICES WERE 5 MINUTES AGO AND LOOK AT THEM NOW! ALL ACUNA CARDS FOR JILLIONS OF DOLLARS AND WE'LL BE RICH AND SWIM AROUND LIKE SCROOGE MCDUCK IN OUR GOLD COINS FOREVER!!" while drooling all over the floor and frothing at the mouth.

Settle down, and don't be upset or bitter when cooler heads slow your hype train down from 900 mph to a mere 90.

[Flkrsn5]

Originally Posted by caulaflour

First of all: The word is "pity."

Second of all: When did being objective become being "miserable"? Read a book.

Third of all: I believe your post was directed at posts such as mine earlier today. While I don't have a lot of the base chromes, I have a Bowman's Best Ref Auto, and a Bow Best Gold/50 Auto ($550 current market value roughly), so I actually DO have some Acuna I bought with the intention of making a few bucks.

I'm just not so....what'd you call it? "miserable?" that I'm unwilling to state how things are IN THIS MOMENT. I'm not worried about him, but I'm living in the now (for those of you who are old enough, pan to Garth calling out Wayne as he views his future guitar). As such, I'm not going to say "0-5 today, he's AWESOME!!! MEGA!! ACUNA FOR PRESIDENT, LOOK AT MY STASH, LOOK AT WHAT PRICES WERE 5 MINUTES AGO AND LOOK AT THEM NOW! ALL ACUNA CARDS FOR JILLIONS OF DOLLARS AND WE'LL BE RICH AND SWIM AROUND LIKE SCROOGE MCDUCK IN OUR GOLD COINS FOREVER!!" while drooling all over the floor and frothing at the mouth.

Settle down, and don't be upset or bitter when cooler heads slow your hype train down from 900 mph to a mere 90.

Exactly! Apparently when people are level headed and predict something that may be negative about a player but true, they are non-investors and “negative people.” Acuna isn’t doing well right now, that is fact and people should just accept it and also accept the fact that people are going to take notice.

[ThoseBackPages]

its NOT over johnny!

[WalterAZ31]

wheres the bregman thread when he started his career 0 for 28 or whatever it was

the Harper thread after his injury riddled season in 2016 saying how he will never be mvp type player again

even this years ohtani thread during ST.

its amazing how some of you aren't MLB scouts

now acuna freak outs

im not immune to jumping gun on players after small sample sizes myself , but it gets silly when these boards continuously right off top prospects if they dont go 2 for 4 every day

[caulaflour]

Wow. It is getting SO hard to read this thread. I may just have to abandon it.

Please just READ what people are saying. Nobody is writing Acuna off! If you or anyone else were taking the Kevin Maas stuff seriously then that's on you/them (it was all in jest). Outside of that, a few people are just talking about how it's been tough sledding so far. THAT'S IT. Is it illegal to make conversation? Can no one participate unless they're repeating what's already been said a million times? Is it unlawful to post in this thread unless you say "MEGA ACUNA EVERYTHING!"?

Acuna is good. I bought his cards and will profit. I'm looking forward to seeing him in the majors when his slump ends. ....and that's that. Get over it, for pete's sake.

Originally Posted by WalterAZ31

wheres the bregman thread when he started his career 0 for 28 or whatever it was

the Harper thread after his injury riddled season in 2016 saying how he will never be mvp type player again

even this years ohtani thread during ST.

its amazing how some of you aren't MLB scouts

now acuna freak outs

im not immune to jumping gun on players after small sample sizes myself , but it gets silly when these boards continuously right off top prospects if they dont go 2 for 4 every day

[Flkrsn5]

Originally Posted by WalterAZ31

wheres the bregman thread when he started his career 0 for 28 or whatever it was

the Harper thread after his injury riddled season in 2016 saying how he will never be mvp type player again

even this years ohtani thread during ST.

its amazing how some of you aren't MLB scouts

now acuna freak outs

im not immune to jumping gun on players after small sample sizes myself , but it gets silly when these boards continuously right off top prospects if they dont go 2 for 4 every day

I’m not so sure people think he isn’t going to bounce back. Some people just seemed to get offended when some predicted that Acuna would not get called up when “experts” predicted he would, or people stating the obvious such as his current performance. I’d be willing to bet a lot of people are sweating, but I’m sure everything will be fine since experts say he is the greatest prospect since Trout. Just remember, they have been wrong before.

[bravezfan4life]

Dude is only 20 he’ll be fine besides the way braves are playing with exception to last night he wasn’t going to get called up regardless

[moosetequila]

Originally Posted by WalterAZ31

wheres the bregman thread when he started his career 0 for 28 or whatever it was

the Harper thread after his injury riddled season in 2016 saying how he will never be mvp type player again

even this years ohtani thread during ST.

its amazing how some of you aren't MLB scouts

now acuna freak outs

im not immune to jumping gun on players after small sample sizes myself , but it gets silly when these boards continuously right off top prospects if they dont go 2 for 4 every day

I wish we could give a thumbs down.

Not sure where I read any where that he is being written off. I started it all by questioning his play and delaying his call up (which did happen), but I never wrote him off. I have a stash too. He didn't get called up by the presumed time many on here claimed he would be, so apparently the Club also sees ZERO need to call him up at this very moment. For one thing, Tucker is holding his own, and two, Acuna is not playing well AT THE MOMENT!

In regard to others starting off poorly then playing great, what about all those threads of players doing well, and to never be heard from again?

What's silly is how the truth is considered bad here. If you are playing great, it is great, and if your play stinks, it stinks. Society had become super soft.

[21Pittsburgh58]

Originally Posted by caulaflour

First of all: The word is "pity."

Second of all: When did being objective become being "miserable"? Read a book.

Third of all: I believe your post was directed at posts such as mine earlier today. While I don't have a lot of the base chromes, I have a Bowman's Best Ref Auto, and a Bow Best Gold/50 Auto ($550 current market value roughly), so I actually DO have some Acuna I bought with the intention of making a few bucks.

I'm just not so....what'd you call it? "miserable?" that I'm unwilling to state how things are IN THIS MOMENT. I'm not worried about him, but I'm living in the now (for those of you who are old enough, pan to Garth calling out Wayne as he views his future guitar). As such, I'm not going to say "0-5 today, he's AWESOME!!! MEGA!! ACUNA FOR PRESIDENT, LOOK AT MY STASH, LOOK AT WHAT PRICES WERE 5 MINUTES AGO AND LOOK AT THEM NOW! ALL ACUNA CARDS FOR JILLIONS OF DOLLARS AND WE'LL BE RICH AND SWIM AROUND LIKE SCROOGE MCDUCK IN OUR GOLD COINS FOREVER!!" while drooling all over the floor and frothing at the mouth.

Settle down, and don't be upset or bitter when cooler heads slow your hype train down from 900 mph to a mere 90.

Your response in just that one post far exceeded whatever you perceived as over reactions in any of the pro-Acuna posts. If you hadn’t posted those idiotic, all capital letter ‘statements’ that NO ONE previously posted or sounded like, it would have been fine. As such, YOU sound like a miserable old bitty who needs to unpucker your tail pipe and just enjoy the ride.

If you are one of the ‘cooler’ heads, then I would hate to see someone who really wants the hype train to slow down. Don’t be so upset and bitter!

[Boo]

Originally Posted by Big35Hurt

This x 1000. It's funny and sad how objectivity is thrown out the window when someone has invested in a player.

See Judge, heads

[caulaflour]

Originally Posted by 21Pittsburgh58

Your response in just that one post far exceeded whatever you perceived as over reactions in any of the pro-Acuna posts. If you hadn’t posted those idiotic, all capital letter ‘statements’ that NO ONE previously posted or sounded like, it would have been fine. As such, YOU sound like a miserable old bitty who needs to unpucker your tail pipe and just enjoy the ride.

If you are one of the ‘cooler’ heads, then I would hate to see someone who really wants the hype train to slow down. Don’t be so upset and bitter!

-sigh-

My capital letters served one purpose: to emphasize the extent to which the hype is being driven. That's all. "Idiotic," by the way, would suggest I wasn't speaking truth. Everyone here, whether they like it or not, knows that all I did was say this: Acuna is playing poorly but he'll be just fine, and the hype train is being driven fast. That's it. Move on, friend.

To address your "upset and bitter" comment: The only thing I'm disappointed in is that fellow members are getting hollered at for just providing a report about what Acuna's doing. Yes, you're correct: it disappoints me when a group of people with whom I like to talk baseball willfully forgo objective sports/collecting talk in favor of just doing the hype thing.

As for your "YOU sound like a miserable old bitty who needs to unpucker your tail pipe" comment.....gracious. I'll just let you look at that and remember you said that instead of something - anything - else.

[imbluestreak23]

Originally Posted by caulaflour

First of all: The word is "pity."

Second of all: When did being objective become being "miserable"? Read a book.

Third of all: I believe your post was directed at posts such as mine earlier today. While I don't have a lot of the base chromes, I have a Bowman's Best Ref Auto, and a Bow Best Gold/50 Auto ($550 current market value roughly), so I actually DO have some Acuna I bought with the intention of making a few bucks.

I'm just not so....what'd you call it? "miserable?" that I'm unwilling to state how things are IN THIS MOMENT. I'm not worried about him, but I'm living in the now (for those of you who are old enough, pan to Garth calling out Wayne as he views his future guitar). As such, I'm not going to say "0-5 today, he's AWESOME!!! MEGA!! ACUNA FOR PRESIDENT, LOOK AT MY STASH, LOOK AT WHAT PRICES WERE 5 MINUTES AGO AND LOOK AT THEM NOW! ALL ACUNA CARDS FOR JILLIONS OF DOLLARS AND WE'LL BE RICH AND SWIM AROUND LIKE SCROOGE MCDUCK IN OUR GOLD COINS FOREVER!!" while drooling all over the floor and frothing at the mouth.

Settle down, and don't be upset or bitter when cooler heads slow your hype train down from 900 mph to a mere 90.

Happy to see your not miserable friend. Still a little up tight, but not miserable.

[WalterAZ31]

Originally Posted by moosetequila

I wish we could give a thumbs down.

Not sure where I read any where that he is being written off. I started it all by questioning his play and delaying his call up (which did happen), but I never wrote him off. I have a stash too. He didn't get called up by the presumed time many on here claimed he would be, so apparently the Club also sees ZERO need to call him up at this very moment. For one thing, Tucker is holding his own, and two, Acuna is not playing well AT THE MOMENT!

In regard to others starting off poorly then playing great, what about all those threads of players doing well, and to never be heard from again?

What's silly is how the truth is considered bad here. If you are playing great, it is great, and if your play stinks, it stinks. Society had become super soft.

posting K rates of players 3 days into season is definite thumbs up material im sure

[moosetequila]

Originally Posted by WalterAZ31

posting K rates of players 3 days into season is definite thumbs up material im sure

Only if it has gotten better...it hasn't

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[dasiegel]

Originally Posted by WalterAZ31

wheres the bregman thread when he started his career 0 for 28 or whatever it was

the Harper thread after his injury riddled season in 2016 saying how he will never be mvp type player again

even this years ohtani thread during ST.

its amazing how some of you aren't MLB scouts

now acuna freak outs

im not immune to jumping gun on players after small sample sizes myself , but it gets silly when these boards continuously right off top prospects if they dont go 2 for 4 every day

Anyone worried about Acuna hasn't watched a lot of baseball. He'll be fine and his stuff will still go up on callup and on his first HR etc etc.

[21Pittsburgh58]

Originally Posted by caulaflour

-sigh-

My capital letters served one purpose: to emphasize the extent to which the hype is being driven. That's all. "Idiotic," by the way, would suggest I wasn't speaking truth. Everyone here, whether they like it or not, knows that all I did was say this: Acuna is playing poorly but he'll be just fine, and the hype train is being driven fast. That's it. Move on, friend.

To address your "upset and bitter" comment: The only thing I'm disappointed in is that fellow members are getting hollered at for just providing a report about what Acuna's doing. Yes, you're correct: it disappoints me when a group of people with whom I like to talk baseball willfully forgo objective sports/collecting talk in favor of just doing the hype thing.

As for your "YOU sound like a miserable old bitty who needs to unpucker your tail pipe" comment.....gracious. I'll just let you look at that and remember you said that instead of something - anything - else.

I’ll look at it and laugh. Gracious, you are wound very tightly.

I’ll take back the upset and bitter comment, BUT, you did not come off as being objective, you came off sounding condescending and judgmental. Read your post again (the one giving inane statements) and really see if you were being ‘objective’.

Time to move on as you suggested at the end of your first paragraph. I will.

ACUNA Matada, friend.

[imbluestreak23]

Originally Posted by moosetequila

What's silly is how the truth is considered bad here. If you are playing great, it is great, and if your play stinks, it stinks. Society had become super soft.

Technically, if you go 0-1 in an at bat, statistically you are playing awfully.

The point is, 33 at bats is meh. 5-33 isn't the worst stretch by any means. Clearly not great, but again, you have people coming in and specifically saying in this very thread because of the slow start that he is "the most overrated prospect of all time." <<-- And "investors" aren't allowed to rebuke that kind of nonsense without appearing as protectionistic of their investments?

These types of personalities, I don't know, I just feel sorry for them. I have cards of Tristen Lutz and Brent Rooker. Both are playing like A$$. But guess what, it's week 2...and it's been ice cold across the country. This microscopic inspection of every single at bat followed up with wild knee jerk reactions both when it's good and bad is just unnecessary and "petty" or 'pitty" (honeslty who gives a flip you crazy grammar nazis. That's another ding to your personality that that is so important to you lol). People need to find other hobbies if this is all they are clamoring to with their time.

Whatever, said my peace. I've made out well with Acuna...and will be making out very well in the future, so keep on hatin' cause I'll be gettin' paid

[oddstuff]

Haven't bought much Acuna cards of late on eBay due to the "inflated" prices...so if you think he's a dog and a flop, by all means please post your cards on eBay at prices reflective of his "bust" status Be glad to take over the risky investment you've made in him.

[speedyjg13]

When is his projected call up date?

[Rabs]

Originally Posted by speedyjg13

When is his projected call up date?

Two days ago?