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Old 11-27-2021, 02:18 PM   #11726
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honestly, i forgot about that because of the pandemic.

but in the end, the pandemic/market crash didn't really hurt card prices did they? i know eventually things evened out, but not a crash.

Sports cards got huge lol where have you been this whole time lol look up “sports card pandemic” or something similar
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Old 11-27-2021, 06:32 PM   #11727
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So far not so good on trying to buy things on ebay. Same big feedback dude outbid me and I was bidding aggressively…or so i thought LOL
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Old 11-27-2021, 08:44 PM   #11728
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Just to clarify... I'm not saying there is zero risk.

There are a number of risk I can see...

-Overall sports card market decline
-Overall economic risk that weighs on all physical assets
-The chance Brady does something to totally tarnish his image (major scandal... I'm not talking deflate gate, I mean OJ Simpson level. I'd say this is pretty low.)
-Insurance risk (i.e. watching your cards burn down in a house fire)
-Football waning in popularity

Weighed against upsides I can see....

-Overall Sports card market increase
-Specific segment sports card market increase (ultra high end, mid, low end, etc)
-Increase of appreciation for Tom Brady in the future (the way that MJ, Mantle have)
-Football increases in popularity
-Demand for hard collectable goods (vs cash/investments) grows


I will say this... relative to the rest of the sports card market, there is no one I would be more bullish than Brady on. I think football continues to grow, and once he's retired, more and more people realize the Brady is on the All-time Mount Rushmore of American athletes.
Completely agree that it's hard to see Brady doing anything to tarnish his legacy. Would need to be something like "Man in the Arena" ending with a Robert Durst-like confession for his key cards to drop.

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Old 11-27-2021, 08:45 PM   #11729
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So far not so good on trying to buy things on ebay. Same big feedback dude outbid me and I was bidding aggressively…or so i thought LOL
At least it's a signal that you're targeting the right cards!
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Old 11-27-2021, 09:03 PM   #11730
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Completely agree that it's hard to see Brady doing anything to tarnish his legacy. Would need to be something like "Man in the Arena" ending with a Robert Durst-like confession for his key cards to drop.

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/16/n...-arrested.html
I'm hoping for a Fred Durst fashion twist ending:
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Old 11-28-2021, 11:53 AM   #11731
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I'm hoping for a Fred Durst fashion twist ending:
Amazing...would push prices even higher.
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Old 11-28-2021, 12:19 PM   #11732
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Amazing...would push prices even higher.
Tom Brady is a 0% Risk investment if the Bucs change their jersey sponsorships from Nike to Members Only.

GeechQuest, if you have a problem with that... then I just don't know what to tell ya.
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Old 11-29-2021, 02:04 PM   #11733
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Bought two Bradys so I can be cool and post in this thread more.
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Old 11-29-2021, 03:28 PM   #11734
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Bought two Bradys so I can be cool and post in this thread more.
What’re the 2 cards?
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Old 11-29-2021, 03:40 PM   #11735
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Bought two Bradys so I can be cool and post in this thread more.
Well you can post in the thread more............
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Old 11-29-2021, 04:04 PM   #11736
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Obviously prices are going to increase around playoff time (look at last year).

What’s your general prediction for the possible outcomes ahead? Name specific cards if you want to, I know it’s a general question.

(Assuming Bucs don’t get the bye) What will happen around....

Right before the playoffs start and the Bucs look good.

Bucs lose first playoff game.

Bucs win first playoff game.

Bucs lose second playoff game.

Bucs win second playoff game.

Bucs lose third playoff game.

Bucs win third playoff game.

Bucs lose SB

(Fingers crossed) Bucs win SB
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Old 11-29-2021, 04:24 PM   #11737
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Obviously prices are going to increase around playoff time (look at last year).

What’s your general prediction for the possible outcomes ahead? Name specific cards if you want to, I know it’s a general question.

(Assuming Bucs don’t get the bye) What will happen around....

Right before the playoffs start and the Bucs look good.

Bucs lose first playoff game.

Bucs win first playoff game.

Bucs lose second playoff game.

Bucs win second playoff game.

Bucs lose third playoff game.

Bucs win third playoff game.

Bucs lose SB

(Fingers crossed) Bucs win SB
Honestly, the stuff I'm holding onto probably won't be impacted much by the outcome of this season right away.

Maybe another SB win sends it into a different stratosphere, but on the really rare stuff it's more about what a handful of investors/high end collectors are willing to pay. In that world, Brady is already a made man
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Old 11-29-2021, 04:35 PM   #11738
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Obviously prices are going to increase around playoff time (look at last year).

What’s your general prediction for the possible outcomes ahead? Name specific cards if you want to, I know it’s a general question.

(Assuming Bucs don’t get the bye) What will happen around....

Right before the playoffs start and the Bucs look good.

Bucs lose first playoff game.

Bucs win first playoff game.

Bucs lose second playoff game.

Bucs win second playoff game.

Bucs lose third playoff game.

Bucs win third playoff game.

Bucs lose SB

(Fingers crossed) Bucs win SB
I'm not trying to be rude or get into an argument but you seem to see Brady cards as a get-rich quick mechanism which they aren't. We hit the absolute perfect storm last year and a lot of people in this thread and on this forum did VERY well. But the days of those drastic increases are probably behind us. Your 66 posts are all in this thread and asking "how much will his cards go up after the documentary", "how much will his cards go up with a playoff win", etc. The answer is honestly probably not much. If you think your PSA 10 Impact will go from 2k to 10k with a playoff run, I doubt that's happening. Most people in this thread see Brady as a long term investment and aren't really worried about week to week changes. Other threads are more concerned with those because people are looking for quick flips. That's not the case with Brady. His legacy is cemented but at this point, he's probably more like a mutual fund than a bitcoin. You'll get increases, just not drastic shifts at once. Just my opinion.
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Old 11-29-2021, 04:59 PM   #11739
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I'm not trying to be rude or get into an argument but you seem to see Brady cards as a get-rich quick mechanism which they aren't. We hit the absolute perfect storm last year and a lot of people in this thread and on this forum did VERY well. But the days of those drastic increases are probably behind us. Your 66 posts are all in this thread and asking "how much will his cards go up after the documentary", "how much will his cards go up with a playoff win", etc. The answer is honestly probably not much. If you think your PSA 10 Impact will go from 2k to 10k with a playoff run, I doubt that's happening. Most people in this thread see Brady as a long term investment and aren't really worried about week to week changes. Other threads are more concerned with those because people are looking for quick flips. That's not the case with Brady. His legacy is cemented but at this point, he's probably more like a mutual fund than a bitcoin. You'll get increases, just not drastic shifts at once. Just my opinion.


I’ve always been about long term, idk if there’s a way to see my post history lol I’ve never mentioned selling anytime soon, but Brady is as safe as it gets. Others have argued there’s risks with him. Look at the comments not too far back....

you’re sort of ignoring the big increases that have happened in just a year/year and a half. That $2k impact you mentioned, what was the price in mid 2020?

He was cheap compared to now basically all of 2020, the 7th ring set them off, not necessarily 2020/pandemic related. So just wondering what would happen just for fun if he gets an eventual 8th

The ones that sold and did “VERY” well, chances are the cards would sell for more now than at a time in the past, let alone the future. I’m the opposite of any “get rich quick” or whatever you said

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Old 11-29-2021, 05:09 PM   #11740
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I’ve always been about long term, idk if there’s a way to see my post history lol I’ve never mentioned selling anytime soon, but Brady is as safe as it gets. Others have argued there’s risks with him. Look at the comments not too far back....

you’re sort of ignoring the big increases that have happened in just a year/year and a half. That $2k impact you mentioned, what was the price in mid 2020?

He was cheap compared to now basically all of 2020, the 7th ring set them off, not necessarily 2020/pandemic related. So just wondering what would happen just for fun if he gets an eventual 8th
How long have you been in the hobby? Honest question.

I opened tons of boxes of Impact. Two years ago I was probably selling PSA 10's for $500 or so. But I was also selling Mahomes Prizm rookies for $200. Brady is up to $2000. Mahomes is around 7k right now. Why would Brady have risen solely based on his win when the entire hobby took off at the same time? Mahomes is just an example but if you have been around, you know it wasn't just Brady that exploded in the last year and a half.

His refractors are a different story. Those have exploded much more than his rookies. Cost me at least six, if not seven, figures selling those too early.

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Old 11-29-2021, 05:17 PM   #11741
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How long have you been in the hobby? Honest question.

I opened tons of boxes of Impact. Two years ago I was probably selling PSA 10's for $500 or so. But I was also selling Mahomes Prizm rookies for $200. Brady is up to $2000. Mahomes is around 7k right now. Why would Brady have risen solely based on his win when the entire hobby took off at the same time? Mahomes is just an example but if you have been around, you know it wasn't just Brady that exploded in the last year and a half.

His refractors are a different story. Those have exploded much more than his rookies. Cost me at least six, if not seven, figures selling those too early.

Long enough to know people should ONLY be buying Brady rookie cards.

Mahomes anything is overpriced. Never overreact to one ring. Chances are he doesn’t get even 4. Heck in all honestly even a second isn’t a guarantee. Brees and Rodgers won one relatively early in their careers and there was never another one. Nothing beats Brady rookies as holding is all I’m saying, just fun to see the prices along the way, despite not selling

Like I said, look at bradys prices in 2020 compared to after winning #7. Brady rookies exploded after the 7th

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Old 11-29-2021, 05:30 PM   #11742
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Long enough to know people should ONLY be buying Brady rookie cards.

Mahomes anything is overpriced. Never overreact to one ring. Chances are he doesn’t get even 4. Heck in all honestly even a second isn’t a guarantee. Brees and Rodgers won one relatively early in their careers and there was never another one. Nothing beats Brady rookies as holding is all I’m saying, just fun to see the prices along the way, despite not selling

Like I said, look at bradys prices in 2020 compared to after winning #7. Brady rookies exploded after the 7th
I guess the issue is you're conflating two different things.

You say nothing beats holding Brady rookies. That may be true.

You also say people are stupid for buying Mahomes, Allen, Herbert, etc. This is absolutely not true. Who knows if they are holding or not. Some people would rather take a chance at a huge return than wait for a slow one. I bought maybe $5k of Mahomes, $5k of Watson, $5k of Doncic and $5k of Acuna/Soto in 2018. I sold two thirds of the Mahomes last year and paid for a house with it. I sold three Watson for over $5k and now have 200 more cost free waiting to see what happens with him. If I sold the Doncic's, I could buy another house. Brady has gone up but not even close to the % of those cards. So was I stupid to buy them instead of Brady?
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Long enough to know people should ONLY be buying Brady rookie cards.

Mahomes anything is overpriced. Never overreact to one ring. Chances are he doesn’t get even 4. Heck in all honestly even a second isn’t a guarantee. Brees and Rodgers won one relatively early in their careers and there was never another one. Nothing beats Brady rookies as holding is all I’m saying, just fun to see the prices along the way, despite not selling

Like I said, look at bradys prices in 2020 compared to after winning #7. Brady rookies exploded after the 7th
I recently sold a Mahomes for 70x what I paid for it in May 2020. Right after he won 1 Super Bowl.

How many Brady rookie cards have had that return in the same time period?
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I guess the issue is you're conflating two different things.

You say nothing beats holding Brady rookies. That may be true.

You also say people are stupid for buying Mahomes, Allen, Herbert, etc. This is absolutely not true. Who knows if they are holding or not. Some people would rather take a chance at a huge return than wait for a slow one. I bought maybe $5k of Mahomes, $5k of Watson, $5k of Doncic and $5k of Acuna/Soto in 2018. I sold two thirds of the Mahomes last year and paid for a house with it. I sold three Watson for over $5k and now have 200 more cost free waiting to see what happens with him. If I sold the Doncic's, I could buy another house. Brady has gone up but not even close to the % of those cards. So was I stupid to buy them instead of Brady?
Awesome you had profit. There’s a sucker born every minute.

You tell me why someone would spend a lot on someone with no accomplishments? How’s Watson doing now? Will Luka ever win ONE ring? Herbert? Please lol. If you can find suckers then go for it. Herbert in the same division/conference as Mahomes can’t be good for him. This might take some time, or else everyone would wake up now, as far as someone should only buy someone when they have accomplishments, not buy and hope, it makes no sense.

Obviously the names on this list are in a debatable order, however the names are what they are. How many of them are worth anything? That at one time people were paying a lot for?

Somehow Herbert, Burrow, Tua, Lawrence etc are all going to win multiple rings, at least that’s what the prices say. Buying someone just because they were drafted high is as bad as it gets. Watson is a good example


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Long enough to know people should ONLY be buying Brady rookie cards.

Mahomes anything is overpriced. Never overreact to one ring. Chances are he doesn’t get even 4. Heck in all honestly even a second isn’t a guarantee. Brees and Rodgers won one relatively early in their careers and there was never another one. Nothing beats Brady rookies as holding is all I’m saying, just fun to see the prices along the way, despite not selling

Like I said, look at bradys prices in 2020 compared to after winning #7. Brady rookies exploded after the 7th
Brady prices went up before the Superbowl last year and actually didn't increase much after #7 except for a few days and then dropped significantly shortly after. Like others have said Brady is a long term investment and you missed the days to get rich quick off him.
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Awesome you had profit. There’s a sucker born every minute.

You tell me why someone would spend a lot on someone with no accomplishments? How’s Watson doing now? Will Luka ever win ONE ring? Herbert? Please lol. If you can find suckers then go for it. Herbert in the same division/conference as Mahomes can’t be good for him. This might take some time, or else everyone would wake up now, as far as someone should only buy someone when they have accomplishments, not buy and hope, it makes no sense.

Obviously the names on this list are in a debatable order, however the names are what they are. How many of them are worth anything? That at one time people were paying a lot for?

Somehow Herbert, Burrow, Tua, Lawrence etc are all going to win rings, at least that’s what the prices say


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Guess you heard nothing I said. Ok. Well good luck with your cards.
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I recently sold a Mahomes for 70x what I paid for it in May 2020. Right after he won 1 Super Bowl.

How many Brady rookie cards have had that return in the same time period?

Congrats! Why someone would overpay is on them. Mahomes is trying to catch Eli, Aikman, Bradshaw etc, no idea why he was ever even in the same conversation as Brady

There’s never been a player like Mahomes, as far as people reacting to one ring.
Right now, do you think he’ll ever get 3-4 rings? Why wait when anyone can just buy Brady? As far as time goes, no need to hope for anything
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Those gains are more tied to when he won and the market explosion I would think. The gains on Brady in about 3 years, however, have been incredible.
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Guess you heard nothing I said. Ok. Well good luck with your cards.

Good luck waiting on Watson and Doncic, maybe one day they’ll combine for one ring
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