Official Tom Brady RC Price Tracker

[blackbears86]

Originally Posted by mcb0419

I don't know how you all do it. The longest I have been able to keep any football boxes sealed was probably 3 months and then I inevitably always break down and open them.

It's easy to keep them sealed when they are $1000+ per box and you don't pull a Brady

[blackbears86]

Originally Posted by Onepocketj

I don't think I ever got a double in a box of Bowman. If you were trying to make a set, it was the perfect box. Boring but you knew you were getting one of just about everyone. 24 packs of 10 in the box and 240 cards in the set. You'd get a few inserts which would leave you a couple cards short.

do you remember if the rookies were randomly placed in the packs or were they always in a specific spot in each pack?

[Onepocketj]

Originally Posted by blackbears86

do you remember if the rookies were randomly placed in the packs or were they always in a specific spot in each pack?

The set was 140 base, 25 Euroleague and 75 rookies.
If I remember correctly the rookies were in the center of each pack.

[blackbears86]

Originally Posted by Onepocketj

The set was 140 base, 25 Euroleague and 75 rookies.
If I remember correctly the rookies were in the center of each pack.

Thank you!

[Mister2Bits]

Originally Posted by boston12

Yeah I believe the 999 cards were purchased first so each person was provided a specific card in their account. Then after the fact they offered a chance to buy an auto so the first 50 people who got in had their cards signed. The serial # is handwritten on the COA to match the hologram.

Thanks for posting that. I was always curious about the serial numbering of the autographed versions. The Ginter Mini Auto was the Brady card that got away for me. I had a chance to buy it on multiple occasions and passed because I thought it was too much money at the time. They've nearly quadrupled since then.

Here's my non-auto PSA 9. I have quite a few more sitting at PSA hoping for a 10 but nearly every card I've ever seen raw is slightly miscut.

[jcard71]

Originally Posted by Zauron

People will always value Chrome over off-brands and college uniforms, serial numbered be damned.

Go ahead and keep thinking Pacific Paramount or whatever will become ahead of Chrome, it won't happen.

First, you assumed that I was referring to his college uniform cards, which I wasn't. I'm referring to his higher-end Pats jersey cards like SPX, Showcase which I would rather have over a Chrome.

[jcard71]

Originally Posted by Neal

I disagree.

Granted, I'm a baseball card collector and I don't really know all of the Brady rookies but own a few (other than Chrome) and a handful of Eagles players both vintage and modern. The Bowman and Bowman chrome have room as I think there are others like me who want a Brady RC that is wearing a Patriots jersey. That leaves out most cards. Just my opinion. I know of a few "baseball only" collectors that are considering Brady cards and these two are top choices.

You might want to educate yourself with these lists. A lot rarer rookies other than the Bowman Chrome with his Pats jersey.

https://www.cardboardconnection.com/...y-rookie-cards


https://www.cardboardconnection.com/...y-rookie-cards

[6GOAT789]

Originally Posted by jcard71

First, you assumed that I was referring to his college uniform cards, which I wasn't. I'm referring to his higher-end Pats jersey cards like SPX, Showcase which I would rather have over a Chrome.

It’s a never ending debate, obviously Pats uniform AND serial #’d is amazing. At what point does a low # override what he’s wearing? Quantum leaf infinity purple is basically impossible to find due to the extremely low serial number, is a showcase still more desirable despite being a high serial # in comparison? Just because of the Pats uniform?

[Onepocketj]

Originally Posted by jcard71

You might want to educate yourself with these lists. A lot rarer rookies other than the Bowman Chrome with his Pats jersey.

https://www.cardboardconnection.com/...y-rookie-cards


https://www.cardboardconnection.com/...y-rookie-cards

Just depends what he's looking for. Rarer does not necessarily equate to more desirable or valuable with sports cards. National Treasures RPA's /99 usually sell for more than any of the cards /49, /25, /10 or even 1/1's of other brands. Personally I love some of the Brady rookies like the Round Numbers which is an auto AND in his NFL uniform. However, I realize that will never have the popularity of some of the more common, recognizable cards.

[jcard71]

Originally Posted by 6GOAT789

It’s a never ending debate, obviously Pats uniform AND serial #’d is amazing. At what point does a low # override what he’s wearing? Quantum leaf infinity purple is basically impossible to find due to the extremely low serial number, is a showcase still more desirable despite being a high serial # in comparison? Just because of the Pats uniform?

Because there are so few Pats jersey rookie cards, I think they'll always be more popular. Add in the serial # and eventually people will start putting more and more of them away in their safe deposit boxes. Basic supply and demand.

[jcard71]

Originally Posted by Onepocketj

Just depends what he's looking for. Rarer does not necessarily equate to more desirable or valuable with sports cards. National Treasures RPA's /99 usually sell for more than any of the cards /49, /25, /10 or even 1/1's of other brands. Personally I love some of the Brady rookies like the Round Numbers which is an auto AND in his NFL uniform. However, I realize that will never have the popularity of some of the more common, recognizable cards.

Right, but based on his comment I dont think he knew there are more of his rookies in a Pats jersey.

[6GOAT789]

Originally Posted by jcard71

Because there are so few Pats jersey rookie cards, I think they'll always be more popular. Add in the serial # and eventually people will start putting more and more of them away in their safe deposit boxes. Basic supply and demand.

That’s what I’m saying though lol low serial numbers are basically no supply. Few pats jersey rookie cards? The infinity purple is /15 lol

[blackbears86]

Originally Posted by 6GOAT789

It’s a never ending debate, obviously Pats uniform AND serial #’d is amazing. At what point does a low # override what he’s wearing? Quantum leaf infinity purple is basically impossible to find due to the extremely low serial number, is a showcase still more desirable despite being a high serial # in comparison? Just because of the Pats uniform?

Long answer, bear with me.


1. It's all about the brand: A long brand with a great run trumps pretty much everything. Would I take a Brady Bowman chrome base PSA card over a numbered PSA card from an "off" brand?----pretty much yes. Brand longevity matters.
2, In pro uni is big. For some reason, with Brady, this is a HUGE deal. This is big in baseball, but not so much for football. But when it comes to Brady in a pro uni, the $$$$$$$$ comes out.
3. It's a beauty contest: Let's be honest Pacific, Donruss/Leaf, Fleer made some really ugly cards of Brady. I can't collect Pacific cards because they were ugly, I don't care how rare they are. (no offense pacific Brady lovers) The quantum leaf your are talking about is ugly. He's handing off. Brady's contenders auto rookie is IMO one of the most perfect modern cards ever. Most of his UD rookies were on point, good design and card stock even with him in practice jerseys.



Lot's of other variables involved, but I'm tired and want to watch the Celtics, so checking out.

[6GOAT789]

Originally Posted by blackbears86

Long answer, bear with me.


1. It's all about the brand: A long brand with a great run trumps pretty much everything. Would I take a Brady Bowman chrome base PSA card over a numbered PSA card from an "off" brand?----pretty much yes. Brand longevity matters.
2, In pro uni is big. For some reason, with Brady, this is a HUGE deal. This is big in baseball, but not so much for football. But when it comes to Brady in a pro uni, the $$$$$$$$ comes out.
3. It's a beauty contest: Let's be honest Pacific, Donruss/Leaf, Fleer made some really ugly cards of Brady. I can't collect Pacific cards because they were ugly, I don't care how rare they are. (no offense pacific Brady lovers) The quantum leaf your are talking about is ugly. He's handing off. Brady's contenders auto rookie is IMO one of the most perfect modern cards ever. Most of his UD rookies were on point, good design and card stock even with him in practice jerseys.



Lot's of other variables involved, but I'm tired and want to watch the Celtics, so checking out.

Looks are an opinion though. Where as a low # is a low #. In other words, the quantum leaf /15 would sell for an insane amount, because it’s /15. Doesn’t matter what he’s wearing or what the card looks like, even if it’s “ugly”. A Bowman Chrome PSA 10 would be much cheaper than a quantum leaf /15 in any grade

There’s definitely a certain point where the serial # outweighs the Pats uniform

[Onepocketj]

Originally Posted by 6GOAT789

Looks are an opinion though. Where as a low # is a low #. In other words, the quantum leaf /15 would sell for an insane amount, because it’s /15. Doesn’t matter what he’s wearing or what the card looks like, even if it’s “ugly”. A Bowman Chrome PSA 10 would be much cheaper than a quantum leaf /15 in any grade

There’s definitely a certain point where the serial # outweighs the Pats uniform

Of course it matters. Brady has 24 rookie cards numbered to 35 or less. They come up pretty often in auctions and don't go for nearly what some people would expect them to. The reason is that it is a niche market. Gold Bowman /99. Absolutely. Everyone knows it and wants it. Others. Not so much. I know the Pacific Gold took me forever to sell. Serial numbered or not, people didn't really care about it. And that was /199. But a Momentum /750? Offers immediately.

Here's an example from the last PWCC auction.
PSA 7 Showcase /2000 sold for $3700
BGS 7.5 Crown Premiere Date /145 sold for $1100

[Neal]

Originally Posted by jcard71

You might want to educate yourself with these lists. A lot rarer rookies other than the Bowman Chrome with his Pats jersey.

https://www.cardboardconnection.com/...y-rookie-cards


https://www.cardboardconnection.com/...y-rookie-cards

Fair point ....

I failed to mention that numbered and or rare generally equals a higher price. Personally, I think the Bowman is a great buy as well as the Chrome.

[Zauron]

Originally Posted by Onepocketj

Of course it matters. Brady has 24 rookie cards numbered to 35 or less. They come up pretty often in auctions and don't go for nearly what some people would expect them to. The reason is that it is a niche market. Gold Bowman /99. Absolutely. Everyone knows it and wants it. Others. Not so much. I know the Pacific Gold took me forever to sell. Serial numbered or not, people didn't really care about it. And that was /199. But a Momentum /750? Offers immediately.

Here's an example from the last PWCC auction.
PSA 7 Showcase /2000 sold for $3700
BGS 7.5 Crown Premiere Date /145 sold for $1100

Man this guy cracks me up, still never answered my question just deflected it.

I will stand by a Chrome PSA 10 will be way more valuable to hold for investment purposes than low numbered off brand stuff, like Quantum Leaf.

a Chrome PSA 10 is easily over $20k right now

an Elite aspirations PSA 9 numbered to 90 can't even get $19k

[6GOAT789]

Originally Posted by Zauron

Man this guy cracks me up, still never answered my question just deflected it.

I will stand by a Chrome PSA 10 will be way more valuable to hold for investment purposes than low numbered off brand stuff, like Quantum Leaf.

a Chrome PSA 10 is easily over $20k right now

an Elite aspirations PSA 9 numbered to 90 can't even get $19k

Obviously this card hasn’t sold, just curious why the asking price is so high? Since it’s a low grade, undesirable quantum leaf parallel

https://www.ebay.com/itm/38438226181...8AAOSw~x5hORht

They sell all the time just like the chromes, right?

[Onepocketj]

Originally Posted by 6GOAT789

Obviously this card hasn’t sold, just curious why the asking price is so high? Since it’s a low grade, undesirable quantum leaf parallel

https://www.ebay.com/itm/38438226181...8AAOSw~x5hORht

They sell all the time just like the chromes, right?

Not sure what you're even trying to imply. Might as well have shown the Aboslute /10 on ebay for $4,500,000. It has to be worth that, there are only 10 of them.

[6GOAT789]

Originally Posted by Onepocketj

Not sure what you're even trying to imply. Might as well have shown the Aboslute /10 on ebay for $4,500,000. It has to be worth that, there are only 10 of them.

That (extremely) low serial #’d cards will far outweigh Bowman chromes, some already do, as well as that anything with a low # that’s cheap/reasonably priced now is undervalued

Doesn’t that /10 have like 500 watchers? I’ve seen it on there. Obviously hasn’t sold, but it would go super high, the /3000 is like a penny compared to the /10

[Onepocketj]

Originally Posted by 6GOAT789

That (extremely) low serial #’d cards will far outweigh Bowman chromes, if they don’t already, as well as that anything with a low # that’s cheap/reasonably priced now is undervalued

Doesn’t that /10 have like 500 watchers? I’ve seen it on there. Obviously hasn’t sold, but it would go super high, the /3000 is like a penny compared to the /10

Either you just don't get it or you like to be contrarian. Here's my last example for you -

Heritage auction
Contenders Ticket BGS 8.5 /100 $1,590,000
Donruss Elite Status PSA 9 /10 $63,000

Yeah, that's pretty close. That Absolute must be worth at least three million

[6GOAT789]

Originally Posted by Onepocketj

Either you just don't get it or you like to be contrarian. Here's my last example for you -

Heritage auction
Contenders Ticket BGS 8.5 /100 $1,590,000
Donruss Elite Status PSA 9 /10 $63,000

Yeah, that's pretty close. That Absolute must be worth at least three million

The Absolute /10 would go for more than $1,590,000...the seller wouldn’t even accept that offer, try if you want and see what they say

There are two 1/1 Brady rookies I believe, Vanguard and Gold medallion. What do you think they would sell for? The gold medallion and Vanguard aren’t high end, but each with a 1/1 parallel would probably have the record for the most expensive Brady card

[Onepocketj]

Originally Posted by 6GOAT789

The Absolute /10 would go for more than $1,590,000...the seller wouldn’t even accept that offer, try if you want and see what they say

There are two 1/1 Brady rookies I believe, Vanguard and Gold medallion. What do you think they would sell for? The gold medallion and Vanguard aren’t high end, but each with a 1/1 parallel would probably have the record for the most expensive Brady card

Wait, what?
The Elite /10 went for $63,000 and you think the Absolute /10 would go for over 1.5 million????? Wow.

I'm done. But it might help if you go do a little more research before trying so hard. Start with the Mystique Masterpiece 1/1, Showcase Masterpiece 1/1, Tradition Glossy 1/1, etc...

Here you go. I'll even link it for you.
https://www.tcdb.com/Person.cfm/pid/...tName=&sBrand=

[6GOAT789]

Originally Posted by Onepocketj

Wait, what?
The Elite /10 went for $63,000 and you think the Absolute /10 would go for over 1.5 million????? Wow.

I'm done. But it might help if you go do a little more research before trying so hard. Start with the Mystique Masterpiece 1/1, Showcase Masterpiece 1/1, Tradition Glossy 1/1, etc...

Here you go. I'll even link it for you.
https://www.tcdb.com/Person.cfm/pid/...tName=&sBrand=

Would have taken no time for me to research 1/1 Brady rookies, I know there’s not a lot. That’s why I said “I believe” and left it at that


Please ask if the seller would accept $1.5 million for the /10 and post a pic of the sellers reply. It’s not what I think, it’s what the seller would tell you, since you obviously don’t believe me, post a pic for us all to see. If you don’t want to do that, then why not? If you’re confident the seller would accept..

[Onepocketj]

Originally Posted by 6GOAT789

Would have taken no time for me to research 1/1 Brady rookies, I know there’s not a lot. That’s why I said “I believe” and left it at that


Please offer $1.5 million for the /10 and post a pic of the sellers reply. It’s not what I think, it’s what the seller would tell you, since you obviously don’t believe me, post a pic for us all to see. If you don’t want to do that, then why not? If you’re confident the seller would accept..

No one that knows anything about Brady cards would have to do research to know about the Masterpieces. And why in God's name would I offer 1.5 million for that card? I know you're trying to pump your Pacific's but if you can't understand actual real auction prices, then I can't help you.

TC was right. I shouldn't have wasted my time trying to teach you. Have a nice night.