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Old 03-26-2024, 03:49 PM   #1201
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2024 NFL Win Totals
San Francisco 49ers: 11.5 (+125/-150)
Baltimore Ravens: 11.5 (+110/-135)
Kansas City Chiefs: 11.5 (-110/-110)
Detroit Lions: 10.5 (-105/-115)
Green Bay Packers: 10.5 (+130/-155)
Philadelphia Eagles: 10.5 (+110/-135)
Buffalo Bills: 10.5 (-145/+120)
Cincinnati Bengals: 10.5 (-120/+100)
Miami Dolphins: 10.5 (+125/-145)
Atlanta Falcons: 10.5 (+110/-130)
Dallas Cowboys: 10.5 (+100/-120)
Houston Texans: 9.5 (-110/-110)
NY Jets: 9.5 (+125/-150)
Indianapolis Colts: 8.5 (+110/-135)
LA Chargers: 8.5 (-160/+130)
Cleveland Browns: 8.5 (+115/-135)
Jacksonville Jaguars: 8.5 (-125/+105)
Tampa Bay Buccaneers: 8.5 (+125/-150)
LA Rams: 8.5 (-110/-110)
Chicago Bears: 8.5 (-135/+115)
Pittsburgh Steelers: 7.5 (-110/-110)
Seattle Seahawks: 7.5 (-110/-110)
New Orleans Saints: 7.5 (-120/+100)
Washington Commanders: 7.5 (+125/-145)
Las Vegas Raiders: 6.5 (-135/+135)
New York Giants: 6.5 (+115/-135)
Minnesota Vikings: 6.5 (-135/+110)
Arizona Cardinals: 6.5 (-110/-110)
Tennessee Titans: 5.5 (+115/-140)
Denver Broncos: 5.5 (-140/+140)
Carolina Panthers: 4.5 (-125/+105)
New England Patriots: 4.5 (-115/-105)

Give me the Bears and Rams over.

Commanders Under 7.5
Browns Over 8.5

That’s my two top plays from that list
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Old 03-26-2024, 04:14 PM   #1202
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Vikes over.
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Old 03-26-2024, 04:22 PM   #1203
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Falcons under at 10.5 and Bucs over at 8.5 seems about right
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Old 03-26-2024, 04:31 PM   #1204
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Cowboys will have 11 wins.
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Old 03-26-2024, 04:57 PM   #1205
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Commanders Under 7.5
Browns Over 8.5

That’s my two top plays from that list
Browns are absolutely going over 8.5

And that’s my degenerate gambling side talking. Not the Browns fan

Hammer that over
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Old 03-26-2024, 05:13 PM   #1206
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Some coward sucker punched Vince Young.
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Old 03-26-2024, 06:45 PM   #1207
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Some coward sucker punched Vince Young.
Was it at Cheesecake Factory?
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Old 03-26-2024, 07:01 PM   #1208
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Love Vince.

From the footage though it doesn’t look like he was doing much to deescalate things.
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Old 03-26-2024, 08:24 PM   #1209
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Not wearing mouth guards is unsafe in itself.
No mouth guards, loose chin straps/helmets. Will be painfully easy for the league to deny insurance claims 30 years from now pointing at specific footage of guys not wearing their PPE properly.
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Old 03-26-2024, 08:41 PM   #1210
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Browns are absolutely going over 8.5

And that’s my degenerate gambling side talking. Not the Browns fan

Hammer that over
Yeah I’m with ya. It will be my biggest future bet.
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Old 03-26-2024, 08:41 PM   #1211
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Only that doesn't fit the definition of what's been deemed an illegal tackle:

"The rule contains multiple elements. First, the defensive player grabs the runner with both hands or wraps the runner with both arms. Second, the defensive player unweights himself “by swiveling and dropping his hips and/or lower body.” Third, the defensive player lands on and traps the runner’s leg(s), at or below the knee."

In this play, Mike Jones (who?) unweights himself by diving at the ball carrier, not swiveling and dropping his hips. Additionally, he only has one arm wrapped around him when he does it. So even today, play stands. Rams win the Super Bowl.
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Old 03-26-2024, 09:09 PM   #1212
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2024 NFL Win Totals
San Francisco 49ers: 11.5 (+125/-150)
Baltimore Ravens: 11.5 (+110/-135)
Kansas City Chiefs: 11.5 (-110/-110)
Detroit Lions: 10.5 (-105/-115)
Green Bay Packers: 10.5 (+130/-155)
Philadelphia Eagles: 10.5 (+110/-135)
Buffalo Bills: 10.5 (-145/+120)
Cincinnati Bengals: 10.5 (-120/+100)
Miami Dolphins: 10.5 (+125/-145)
Atlanta Falcons: 10.5 (+110/-130)
Dallas Cowboys: 10.5 (+100/-120)
Houston Texans: 9.5 (-110/-110)
NY Jets: 9.5 (+125/-150)
Indianapolis Colts: 8.5 (+110/-135)
LA Chargers: 8.5 (-160/+130)
Cleveland Browns: 8.5 (+115/-135)
Jacksonville Jaguars: 8.5 (-125/+105)
Tampa Bay Buccaneers: 8.5 (+125/-150)
LA Rams: 8.5 (-110/-110)
Chicago Bears: 8.5 (-135/+115)
Pittsburgh Steelers: 7.5 (-110/-110)
Seattle Seahawks: 7.5 (-110/-110)
New Orleans Saints: 7.5 (-120/+100)
Washington Commanders: 7.5 (+125/-145)
Las Vegas Raiders: 6.5 (-135/+135)
New York Giants: 6.5 (+115/-135)
Minnesota Vikings: 6.5 (-135/+110)
Arizona Cardinals: 6.5 (-110/-110)
Tennessee Titans: 5.5 (+115/-140)
Denver Broncos: 5.5 (-140/+140)
Carolina Panthers: 4.5 (-125/+105)
New England Patriots: 4.5 (-115/-105)

Give me the Bears and Rams over.

Houston hitting the over seems solid too


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Can I actual place a bet being in MN? Should I ask an Ohtani fan?
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Old 03-27-2024, 01:34 AM   #1214
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2024 NFL Win Totals
San Francisco 49ers: 11.5 (+125/-150)
Baltimore Ravens: 11.5 (+110/-135)
Kansas City Chiefs: 11.5 (-110/-110)
Detroit Lions: 10.5 (-105/-115)
Green Bay Packers: 10.5 (+130/-155)
Philadelphia Eagles: 10.5 (+110/-135)
Buffalo Bills: 10.5 (-145/+120)
Cincinnati Bengals: 10.5 (-120/+100)
Miami Dolphins: 10.5 (+125/-145)
Atlanta Falcons: 10.5 (+110/-130)
Dallas Cowboys: 10.5 (+100/-120)
Houston Texans: 9.5 (-110/-110)
NY Jets: 9.5 (+125/-150)
Indianapolis Colts: 8.5 (+110/-135)
LA Chargers: 8.5 (-160/+130)
Cleveland Browns: 8.5 (+115/-135)
Jacksonville Jaguars: 8.5 (-125/+105)
Tampa Bay Buccaneers: 8.5 (+125/-150)
LA Rams: 8.5 (-110/-110)
Chicago Bears: 8.5 (-135/+115)
Pittsburgh Steelers: 7.5 (-110/-110)
Seattle Seahawks: 7.5 (-110/-110)
New Orleans Saints: 7.5 (-120/+100)
Washington Commanders: 7.5 (+125/-145)
Las Vegas Raiders: 6.5 (-135/+135)
New York Giants: 6.5 (+115/-135)
Minnesota Vikings: 6.5 (-135/+110)
Arizona Cardinals: 6.5 (-110/-110)
Tennessee Titans: 5.5 (+115/-140)
Denver Broncos: 5.5 (-140/+140)
Carolina Panthers: 4.5 (-125/+105)
New England Patriots: 4.5 (-115/-105)

Give me the Bears and Rams over.
Jags over 8.5 wins is the easiest bet on here. They will be playing a 2nd place schedule and won't have to face the Ravens or Chiefs.
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Old 03-27-2024, 06:01 AM   #1215
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Only that doesn't fit the definition of what's been deemed an illegal tackle:

"The rule contains multiple elements. First, the defensive player grabs the runner with both hands or wraps the runner with both arms. Second, the defensive player unweights himself “by swiveling and dropping his hips and/or lower body.” Third, the defensive player lands on and traps the runner’s leg(s), at or below the knee."

In this play, Mike Jones (who?) unweights himself by diving at the ball carrier, not swiveling and dropping his hips. Additionally, he only has one arm wrapped around him when he does it. So even today, play stands. Rams win the Super Bowl.
This new rule, just like pass interference, will be thrown on a very ticky tacky call that will have a major impact in the game. I gaurantee it. The example above could very well be an instance where it might be called and where it might not be called.
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Old 03-27-2024, 07:16 AM   #1216
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Heard one good point when are they going to ban the stiff arm? All these rules favoring the offense but offense still allowed to still arm defense players in the face and push head back. Defense players can't touch the facemask so should defense players not have the same right and offense players should not be able to touch the facemask?
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Player safety is a major concern, says the league playing games Thursdays, Fridays, Saturdays, Sundays, Mondays, overseas, playing on turf, adding more games, etc.

Call it what it is. Prevent the defense from being able to do their job so more points are put on the board to keep the new generation of fans happy for the chance they might look up from their phone for a second. Copying a page out of what has become the NBA. Can't hit low, can't hit high, can't tackle the QB. Can't break up a catch with a hard hit.
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This new rule, just like pass interference, will be thrown on a very ticky tacky call that will have a major impact in the game. I gaurantee it. The example above could very well be an instance where it might be called and where it might not be called.
Sure, but that would be an incorrect call. No different then if they would have called any other penalty incorrectly on that play.
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Clowney to a clown team.

Two years, $24M
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Clowney to a clown team.

Two years, $24M
Did he resign with the Browns?
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Did he resign with the Browns?
There are two clown teams in the NFL. The Browns and the team with the owner who likes to draft undersized quarterbacks and throw drinks at his team's fans.

He signed with that other one.
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Clowney to a clown team.

Two years, $24M
Add that to his $85,057,740 in career earnings. Man got his money off one tackle in college.

52.5 sacks isn’t awful but just never lived up to the hype. He had 9.5 last year so that’s surprising to see
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There are two clown teams in the NFL. The Browns and the team with the owner who likes to draft undersized quarterbacks and throw drinks at his team's fans.

He signed with that other one.
David Tepper leaving the Steelers ownership group to buy the Panthers was one of the Steelers franchise greatest moments.
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Add that to his $85,057,740 in career earnings. Man got his money off one tackle in college.

52.5 sacks isn’t awful but just never lived up to the hype. He had 9.5 last year so that’s surprising to see
He's never had a double digit sack season in his career. He was over hyped for one big play in college were he blew up the RB.
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He's never had a double digit sack season in his career. He was over hyped for one big play in college were he blew up the RB.
I think that's oversimplifying it.

He was the #1 recruit in the country out of HS. He played as a true freshman and had 8 sacks and 5 forced fumbles.

His Sophomore year he had 13 sacks and 23.5 TFLs. Then he got dinged up as a Junior.

The fumble was his big highlight, but to say he was just overhyped because of 1 play doesn't tell the whole story. He was overhyped for a number of reasons. This guy would have been the #1 pick in the draft even if that play never happened.
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