Skybox 2024 1992 MM Platinum

[DynaEtch]

Originally Posted by meandsharon11

The Super Skrull gold 1/1 is on eBay. First I have seen listed so far.

First I’m seeing it too. Don’t blame the seller asking high since it’s a 1/1 and you just never know…but being honest it’s Super Skrull…could be a tough sell.

[Spacemanspif]

Speaking of 1/1s, got this back from PSA this week, pretty dope to have the pair

[meandsharon11]

Originally Posted by Spacemanspif

Speaking of 1/1s, got this back from PSA this week, pretty dope to have the pair

Very nice!

[DynaEtch]

Originally Posted by Spacemanspif

Speaking of 1/1s, got this back from PSA this week, pretty dope to have the pair

Woah that’s awesome. Very cool to have the pair. Wonder where the gold PMG 1/1 is. If somehow you end up with that you almost *have* to go for that entire rainbow ..

[orion9578]

Originally Posted by DynaEtch

Woah that’s awesome. Very cool to have the pair. Wonder where the gold PMG 1/1 is. If somehow you end up with that you almost *have* to go for that entire rainbow ..

My OCD would kick in, in a bad way, if I didn't do the rainbow(s) in PSA 9's

Awesome cards Spaceman & Dyna!

[DynaEtch]

I didnt realize until now, but the pink laser pattern is different for the same character, example to example?




(from ebay listings,not mine)

Somewhat surprising. Not a trick of the light..examined two in hand up close, it's a different pattern

[finfangfan]

I think that happens with some types of foiling they use. The old Guardians of the Galaxy v2 retail release had different patterns in the background for the blue foil parallel as well. It’s kind of like wrapping paper that lines up differently from one cut to the next. For this card I like the effect of the pattern showing through her invisible legs.

[DynaEtch]

Originally Posted by finfangfan

I think that happens with some types of foiling they use. The old Guardians of the Galaxy v2 retail release had different patterns in the background for the blue foil parallel as well. It’s kind of like wrapping paper that lines up differently from one cut to the next. For this card I like the effect of the pattern showing through her invisible legs.

That would make sense, a foiling pattern that wraps around unevenly with the sheets.
I guess all (or most) of the 992 Invis Woman’s are technically different then…eBay 1/1s abound! haha

Interestingly, it is not the case for some other parallels, such as the Holofoil. Which has the same foiling pattern not just on all examples of one character…but on all Holofoils period…all cards in the set. Can kind of see it here in the light

[DynaEtch]

A latest pickup. I swear I’m never gonna grow tired of this set…

[DynaEtch]

In going about some set collecting…here are some of the characters I’ve noticed that are frustratingly hard to get…as in higher priced compared to what that tier character usually should go for (mostly because the art…)

-Beast
-Green Goblin
-Sabretooth

Edit: I might add Blob too just since he’s the 1st card in set and stands out

[orion9578]

Originally Posted by DynaEtch

In going about some set collecting…here are some of the characters I’ve noticed that are frustratingly hard to get…as in higher priced compared to what that tier character usually should go for (mostly because the art…)

-Beast
-Green Goblin
-Sabretooth

Edit: I might add Blob too just since he’s the 1st card in set and stands out

I've noticed it with several as well. I've been basically just watching as prices seem to keep creeping up on a lot of stuff.

How goes the Purple /25 set? Did you happen to nab one of the first two Psylocke's that popped up on eBay? Or was that you that bought the one the other day? Insane price IMO haha. I'd personally rather have a Blue PMG & Red PMG than the purple.

[DynaEtch]

Originally Posted by orion9578

I've noticed it with several as well. I've been basically just watching as prices seem to keep creeping up on a lot of stuff.

How goes the Purple /25 set? Did you happen to nab one of the first two Psylocke's that popped up on eBay? Or was that you that bought the one the other day? Insane price IMO haha. I'd personally rather have a Blue PMG & Red PMG than the purple.

Coming along well, but I sense much less blasters are being opened now, since there’s not the flow of them onto the market like early on. I have a sub of nearly 40 of them down at CGC…but seems to be going through there at a snail’s pace.

I was one of the earlier ones for the Psylocke, thank goodness haha. I saw that sale. Prices are varying widely on them…many sellers asking what I think is way more than they’re worth. I notice the commons when auctioned go for sub $100, yet sellers charge $200-400 BIN for them. However there is no question generally prices have crept up (not even just purples…but things like gold seismics and PMGs)

I do have 2 of the big 3 purples…Wolverine and Venom. If anyone has or knows where a Spidey purple /25 may be available…would greatly appreciate any info. That one will be a big purchase….sigh.

Are you going anything specific in this set? PMGs?

[orion9578]

Originally Posted by DynaEtch

Coming along well, but I sense much less blasters are being opened now, since there’s not the flow of them onto the market like early on. I have a sub of nearly 40 of them down at CGC…but seems to be going through there at a snail’s pace.

I was one of the earlier ones for the Psylocke, thank goodness haha. I saw that sale. Prices are varying widely on them…many sellers asking what I think is way more than they’re worth. I notice the commons when auctioned go for sub $100, yet sellers charge $200-400 BIN for them. However there is no question generally prices have crept up (not even just purples…but things like gold seismics and PMGs)

I do have 2 of the big 3 purples…Wolverine and Venom. If anyone has or knows where a Spidey purple /25 may be available…would greatly appreciate any info. That one will be a big purchase….sigh.

Are you going anything specific in this set? PMGs?

Good, glad to hear(the set is coming along well). Spidey will be a beast, once it shows up. And yes, that's what I meant when I said prices are creeping up. Pretty much across the board really. Noticed a pretty big uptick on the /292 Variants(that I've watched). Wonder if there are a ton(relatively speaking) of people who are wanted to do one of the numbered sets...then they see the ending prices on the Golds/PMG/etc and decide the /292 is the most economical way to go about it.

No more sets for me. I did a low(er) numbered Platinum set and a 2nd Anime mega moon set recently and that's the last Marvel set I'm going to be doing...probably ever. I'm a bit bored or over it...something like that. Very little interest in the current Topps offers has made that pretty easy. Nabbing a few more cards for my closet project and then I think I'll just be buying when I think I can re-sell. Most other stuff I had is gone now. A semi-local with a ton of money/trade made that possible(over the last few years). Burnt out, basically!

[DynaEtch]

Originally Posted by orion9578

Good, glad to hear(the set is coming along well). Spidey will be a beast, once it shows up. And yes, that's what I meant when I said prices are creeping up. Pretty much across the board really. Noticed a pretty big uptick on the /292 Variants(that I've watched). Wonder if there are a ton(relatively speaking) of people who are wanted to do one of the numbered sets...then they see the ending prices on the Golds/PMG/etc and decide the /292 is the most economical way to go about it.

No more sets for me. I did a low(er) numbered Platinum set and a 2nd Anime mega moon set recently and that's the last Marvel set I'm going to be doing...probably ever. I'm a bit bored or over it...something like that. Very little interest in the current Topps offers has made that pretty easy. Nabbing a few more cards for my closet project and then I think I'll just be buying when I think I can re-sell. Most other stuff I had is gone now. A semi-local with a ton of money/trade made that possible(over the last few years). Burnt out, basically!

I thought the exact same thing about the red prisms and variants of those….seemed to have crept up a bit. I actually have a red prism set going on right now (the /492 one), pretty well along. One thing that struck me…take a similarly numbered parallel in this vs basically any other marvel set…say regular 2023 Platinum…like compare /492 to /499 parallel….an it’s remarkable how different the prices of singles are (these higher). Another example- compare pink /75’s in past metal sets to /92 gold seismics…it’s ridiculous how cheap those pinks are, comparatively. (Common pink 2020 x-men Metal going for like $3-5 on comc). Part of it is the newness factor of 92MM Plat but part of it is also the quality of card and Jusko iconic art.

I can relate to the burnout…frankly almost 100% of my collecting is geared around this specific set these days….ill still look for interesting 90s masterpieces error cards, but this 92 Plat set is pretty much it for me for anything newer. Not buying anything in the Topps era. I’m so glad UD came out with this platinum at the 12th hour tho, it’s really been fun going after various parallel sets…and it’s my fav art of any set…which never seems to get old.

[orion9578]

Originally Posted by DynaEtch

I thought the exact same thing about the red prisms and variants of those….seemed to have crept up a bit. I actually have a red prism set going on right now (the /492 one), pretty well along. One thing that struck me…take a similarly numbered parallel in this vs basically any other marvel set…say regular 2023 Platinum…like compare /492 to /499 parallel….an it’s remarkable how different the prices of singles are (these higher). Another example- compare pink /75’s in past metal sets to /92 gold seismics…it’s ridiculous how cheap those pinks are, comparatively. (Common pink 2020 x-men Metal going for like $3-5 on comc). Part of it is the newness factor of 92MM Plat but part of it is also the quality of card and Jusko iconic art.

I can relate to the burnout…frankly almost 100% of my collecting is geared around this specific set these days….ill still look for interesting 90s masterpieces error cards, but this 92 Plat set is pretty much it for me for anything newer. Not buying anything in the Topps era. I’m so glad UD came out with this platinum at the 12th hour tho, it’s really been fun going after various parallel sets…and it’s my fav art of any set…which never seems to get old.

Yeah...anything non-PMG in any of the other Metal sets is virtually worthless when compared to prices shortly after release. And it's not even Covid prices vs now prices...any non-PMG has just utterly tanked. I'm not sure that happens here, but we'll see, I guess.

And yes, I'm burnt out badly. No UD(MM/Ultra...mostly) and Topps seemingly only running Chrome sets over and over has me thinking I'll buy a few cards here and there but most of my time/effort will be spent "flipping". Probably time anyways. Kiddo has zero interest in cards and my interest has been minimal since probably Black Diamond.

Off in the weeds, per usual when I start blabbing! As far as this set goes, it sure seems like UD got together and said "Lets make a set for Dyna on blowout..." ... I hop on just to check a few threads these days, and this is one of them...for all the eye candy posted by you a few others. Keep it up!

[DynaEtch]

Originally Posted by orion9578

, it sure seems like UD got together and said "Lets make a set for Dyna on blowout..."

Haha sure seems like that . This is my dream set. It also has enough in it to collect that I’ll be working on it for the next 5-10 years or so. It’s one of those things…dropped everything once it came out and have since focused all my collecting efforts on it. Have barely even looked at the 24MM Grego set because this one is keeping me so busy.

Very good question about will 92 Plat and non-PMGs go the way of Metal. I suspect not nearly as much and may even rise…there seems to be more organic interest around this set, and I go back to the iconic art. The Jusko 92MM art is essentially timeless in the hobby.

What will probably crash pretty hard in this set is anything unnumbered…there is just soo much of it. Blue traxx, variant covers of that, purple crystals, battle spectra and rainbows etc… it’s fun to collect these sets, and I am…but I do not think it will cary value. In time I think we’ll see complete sets of these commonly listed and hard to sell/going for a lot less than you’d think. Low numbered should sustain very well if not rise. The interesting question to me is where the mid to high numbered stuff ends up…red prism VC /292 up through pink laser /992. I mean /992 is a very high number…think marvel unbound base card, which sell for a buck or two…and yet pink lasers can sell into the $10s even up to like $75-150 for the top 3. Will be interesting to see what happens to them long term.

Of course stuff like /292 may seem like a lot…but if there’s enough people collecting it…and I think a huge portion of the marvel card hobby is collecting this…it becomes not quite as high I guess.

[DynaEtch]

Totally get it about the burnout. UD releasing a bajillion sets and parallels in each of those sets over the last few years didn’t help….and now the lackluster Chrome. One benefit of being burnt out….easier on the wallet!

I will update once I get more progress…actually pretty close to a gold seismic set and I’m also looking for a Spidey and Wolverine from that…

[orion9578]

I tend to agree. I think the /292 variants will either do well or hold strong, just because the Golds/PMG's and the rest(numbered lower than those) are flat out too expensive to set chase for most people.

I'm still sticking my initial, gut feeling that the Kaleidoscope's will do well long term, as far as anything unnumbered goes.

As far as the numbered, I think the obvious answer is the PMG/PMG sets will hold well and probably gain. Of the numbered though, my strong preference as far as a set goes would 100% go to the Golds. More specifically, for me, the base golds. I like the simplicity of the base vs the variants, though you really can't go wrong with either.

Originally Posted by DynaEtch

I will update once I get more progress…actually pretty close to a gold seismic set and I’m also looking for a Spidey and Wolverine from that…

Looking forward to it!

[DynaEtch]

Originally Posted by orion9578

As far as the numbered, I think the obvious answer is the PMG/PMG sets will hold well and probably gain. Of the numbered though, my strong preference as far as a set goes would 100% go to the Golds. More specifically, for me, the base golds. I like the simplicity of the base vs the variants, though you really can't go wrong with either.

I think people chasing golds generally pick one and stick with one- the reg or variants-especially when going for sets. Pretty equivalent..same out of /92 etc.

Early on I had to make that decision- pick one and stick with one….and I picked the base golds. For the same reason as you- the simplicity…I’m also usually more of a “mainstream base type”. And that would be more along the lines of the reg golds. They’re both beautiful cards parallels. And some I think the gold variant looks particularly nice like the Captain America.

Also, as usual the Adam Warlock and Apoc don’t exist in reg gold so I did pick up the gold variants of those to go with the set I’m building.

It’s funny because I like the reg golds predominately….but when it comes to the purple variants I really like those. Maybe it’s a psychological thing because I know they are much more rare at /25 compared the common purples, so that just makes them stand out so much. But even if they were numbered the same, I’d still prob prefer the purple variants…not sure why I just think it looks good on those.

[orion9578]

Originally Posted by DynaEtch

I think people chasing golds generally pick one and stick with one- the reg or variants-especially when going for sets. Pretty equivalent..same out of /92 etc.

Early on I had to make that decision- pick one and stick with one….and I picked the base golds. For the same reason as you- the simplicity…I’m also usually more of a “mainstream base type”. And that would be more along the lines of the reg golds. They’re both beautiful cards parallels. And some I think the gold variant looks particularly nice like the Captain America.

Also, as usual the Adam Warlock and Apoc don’t exist in reg gold so I did pick up the gold variants of those to go with the set I’m building.

It’s funny because I like the reg golds predominately….but when it comes to the purple variants I really like those. Maybe it’s a psychological thing because I know they are much more rare at /25 compared the common purples, so that just makes them stand out so much. But even if they were numbered the same, I’d still prob prefer the purple variants…not sure why I just think it looks good on those.

Ah, yeah...I get off in the weeds on this set and forget about a bunch of other cards I like, haha. In my opinion, the entire set doesn't do bad, as far as numbered stuff goes. If you put me in a corner and made me make a set building list it'd probably look like this...assuming money WASN'T a factor.

1. Green PMG's
2a. Purple /25's
2b. Red PMG's
3a. Emerald Surge
3b. Blue PMG's
4a. Gold Base
4b. Gold Variant
5. Orange
6. Red Variant
7. The rest

A's & B's can basically be switched back and forth, in my mind. It's not exactly in order value wise, but it's probably close(ish), save blue and red PMG's.

If money WAS a factor, the list changes by quite a bit, for myself...

1. Red PMG's
2. Gold Base
3. Gold Variant
4. Purple
5. Blue PMG's
6. Red Variant
7. Orange
8. Green PMG's
9. Emerald Surge
10. The rest

Haha. Wildly different, but for ME, I'm 1000% wouldn't want to shell out the money to make basically any of those sets at current prices.

Fun little exercise though, to even attempt making a list. The days of set building anything worth putting together have probably come to an end(for me). I think the last big/worthwhile set(s) I put together were the 2020MM Metallurgy set and/or the X-Men Metal Red PMG set. I've done a few since, but nothing of consequence.

[DynaEtch]

Originally Posted by orion9578

1. Green PMG's
2a. Purple /25's
2b. Red PMG's
3a. Emerald Surge
3b. Blue PMG's
4a. Gold Base
4b. Gold Variant
5. Orange
6. Red Variant
7. The rest

If money WAS a factor, the list changes by quite a bit, for myself...

1. Red PMG's
2. Gold Base
3. Gold Variant
4. Purple
5. Blue PMG's
6. Red Variant
7. Orange
8. Green PMG's
9. Emerald Surge
10. The rest

Yea I think I remember that with you collecting the MUXM PMG red set…nuts! One thing I really like about this 92 Plat set is the set (and parallel sets) are just 100 cards. That’s a game changer…I couldn’t do a 200 card set like those Metal Universes.

I largely agree with the lists. I do think push comes to shove…green pmg set would be the absolute pinnacle set to own in this- the best looking (not even gonna count the golden treasures or gold PMGs since no one’s gonna make those sets plus the green PMGs still look better imo). I saw a post elsewhere of someone’s 6 or 7 green PMGs from this lined up next to each other and it looked magnificent. I can’t imagine an entire set of that.

Your “money is a factor” list brings out a good point…the gold seismics are quite affordable compared to how awesome they are. It helps that it’s of out /92. I do think they’re undervalued, although they have come up somewhat. Not far after release common golds were selling for as little as $30-40 a piece. Prices creeped up on those and now I’m seeing commons more in the $50-90 range and semi-stars going north of $100, maybe 100-150. Stars maybe $150–300 range and very top 3 maybe $600-$1000. Pretty impressive for a /92 non-PMG insert. But I still think they’re undervalued on the whole compared to how awesome they look and also how hard they are to hit in boxes (/92 is a rare hit in this huge print run).

[meandsharon11]

Originally Posted by DynaEtch

Haha sure seems like that . This is my dream set. It also has enough in it to collect that I’ll be working on it for the next 5-10 years or so. It’s one of those things…dropped everything once it came out and have since focused all my collecting efforts on it. Have barely even looked at the 24MM Grego set because this one is keeping me so busy.

Very good question about will 92 Plat and non-PMGs go the way of Metal. I suspect not nearly as much and may even rise…there seems to be more organic interest around this set, and I go back to the iconic art. The Jusko 92MM art is essentially timeless in the hobby.

What will probably crash pretty hard in this set is anything unnumbered…there is just soo much of it. Blue traxx, variant covers of that, purple crystals, battle spectra and rainbows etc… it’s fun to collect these sets, and I am…but I do not think it will cary value. In time I think we’ll see complete sets of these commonly listed and hard to sell/going for a lot less than you’d think. Low numbered should sustain very well if not rise. The interesting question to me is where the mid to high numbered stuff ends up…red prism VC /292 up through pink laser /992. I mean /992 is a very high number…think marvel unbound base card, which sell for a buck or two…and yet pink lasers can sell into the $10s even up to like $75-150 for the top 3. Will be interesting to see what happens to them long term.

Of course stuff like /292 may seem like a lot…but if there’s enough people collecting it…and I think a huge portion of the marvel card hobby is collecting this…it becomes not quite as high I guess.

I’m right here with this. I haven’t collected marvel since 1993 and I was a kid. Now this came out, I am like a big kid and collecting as much as I can again.

[orion9578]

Originally Posted by DynaEtch

Yea I think I remember that with you collecting the MUXM PMG red set…nuts! One thing I really like about this 92 Plat set is the set (and parallel sets) are just 100 cards. That’s a game changer…I couldn’t do a 200 card set like those Metal Universes.

I largely agree with the lists. I do think push comes to shove…green pmg set would be the absolute pinnacle set to own in this- the best looking (not even gonna count the golden treasures or gold PMGs since no one’s gonna make those sets plus the green PMGs still look better imo). I saw a post elsewhere of someone’s 6 or 7 green PMGs from this lined up next to each other and it looked magnificent. I can’t imagine an entire set of that.

Your “money is a factor” list brings out a good point…the gold seismics are quite affordable compared to how awesome they are. It helps that it’s of out /92. I do think they’re undervalued, although they have come up somewhat. Not far after release common golds were selling for as little as $30-40 a piece. Prices creeped up on those and now I’m seeing commons more in the $50-90 range and semi-stars going north of $100, maybe 100-150. Stars maybe $150–300 range and very top 3 maybe $600-$1000. Pretty impressive for a /92 non-PMG insert. But I still think they’re undervalued on the whole compared to how awesome they look and also how hard they are to hit in boxes (/92 is a rare hit in this huge print run).

I also didn't included the Gold 1/1's. Unless you're a secret Billionaire, I'm thinking it'd be impossible. Looks wise, I'd still prefer the green set...but future value wise, obviously(to me) the Gold PMG set would be king.

Kind of OT, but have you been doing any breaks still? I don't see many listed anymore, but I do see a few. It's always tempting to buy a few spots but then I remember buying up slots and only ending up with a bunch of Canvas etc. to show for my money, haha.

[DynaEtch]

Originally Posted by meandsharon11

I’m right here with this. I haven’t collected marvel since 1993 and I was a kid. Now this came out, I am like a big kid and collecting as much as I can again.

This is me too with this set. The 92MM set is total nostalgia for me- basically got me into marvel cards as a kid….I will never get tired of the set, and many of these parallels in chrome are just gorgeous.

Originally Posted by orion9578

I also didn't included the Gold 1/1's. Unless you're a secret Billionaire, I'm thinking it'd be impossible. Looks wise, I'd still prefer the green set...but future value wise, obviously(to me) the Gold PMG set would be king.

Kind of OT, but have you been doing any breaks still? I don't see many listed anymore, but I do see a few. It's always tempting to buy a few spots but then I remember buying up slots and only ending up with a bunch of Canvas etc. to show for my money, haha.

Impossible even for that secret billionaire as long as I’m holding the Red Skull and Luke Cage golden treasures ok maybe the Gold PMGs are still fair game….but yea it’s not happening.

I see listings for breaks are still hitting eBay. I have gone away from breaks somewhat, since that is exactly me as well- a few canvas and leather or clear cuts. My best hit of all from several breaks (and often many character spots in each break)…..was the gold seismic variant Cap America. That was the absolute best hit I got, and almost everything else was at most a pink laser or Holofoil. If I added up the $ I put into breaks vs how much value I got out of them..it’s definitely negative, by a pretty sizeable amount too, but that’s expected.

Another reason I’m lessening on the breaks is the projects I’m going for are the gold seismics and purple cover variants. The purple variants are blasters so not even possible in the breaks. The gold seismics are but that's certainly not the way to go about collecting that set.

But yea with the huge print run, breaks can be pretty rough. It’s a fun gamble, don’t get me wrong, but it’s hard to justify what the break spot prices are going for (I’ve noticed they’ve crept up a bit in price too, maybe because breaks are getting rarer)

[DynaEtch]

A few of the bigger purple variants added recently