WWE Discussion thread- Raw/SD/PPV

[sjim8660]

Ok something happened last night that I missed. Rikishi is going into the HOF? A WWE 1 time IC champ and 1 time WWE Tag champ, why Rikishi? He is one of the least qualified people. There are literally dozens more people you can put in over Rikishi. Like, Kevin Sullivan, Lex Luger, Elizabeth, Ole and Arn Anderson, Rick Rude, I can go on and on. But Rikishi? WTF WWE, why because he is related to the Rock and his kids wrestle now? I always thought Rikishi was over rated and he was a mid carder at best. He probably changed his gimmick 3 different times. And when I say "changed" I don't mean his character evolved, I mean they repackaged him because he sucked. This is stupid and who decision was it to put him in, what a joke.

[mikecamp99]

So I guess last night someone hacked into Seth Rollins instagram and posted a nude photo of NXT Diva Zahra Schrieber. Supposedly he's been cheating on his fiancee Leighla Schultz with this chick, so after this photo got leaked Leighla posted several pictures of Seth Rollins nude.

Rollins might be in some deep s#!t right now because I guess WWE has established a no toleration policy regarding leaked photos of their superstars and divas (even though you can easily find stuff on people like Lana). I'm wondering WWE punishes Rollins for this. I could see something like they have him cash in and lose. Then after he just gets buried in the midcard, losing to guys like Cesaro, Kidd, Fandango and Adam Rose.

[sjim8660]

Originally Posted by mikecamp99

So I guess last night someone hacked into Seth Rollins instagram and posted a nude photo of NXT Diva Zahra Schrieber. Supposedly he's been cheating on his fiancee Leighla Schultz with this chick, so after this photo got leaked Leighla posted several pictures of Seth Rollins nude.

Rollins might be in some deep s#!t right now because I guess WWE has established a no toleration policy regarding leaked photos of their superstars and divas (even though you can easily find stuff on people like Lana). I'm wondering WWE punishes Rollins for this. I could see something like they have him cash in and lose. Then after he just gets buried in the midcard, losing to guys like Cesaro, Kidd, Fandango and Adam Rose.

Look what Edge and Lita did, and Edge still got a great push. I think what Edge and Lita did was way worse than just some leaked pics. They stirred up crap in the locker room and pissed a lot of people off. On the other hand that was the attitude era, so maybe they do bury Rollins, which would be a shame.

[mikecamp99]

Originally Posted by sjim8660

Look what Edge and Lita did, and Edge still got a great push. I think what Edge and Lita did was way worse than just some leaked pics. They stirred up crap in the locker room and pissed a lot of people off. On the other hand that was the attitude era, so maybe they do bury Rollins, which would be a shame.

I'm glad you included that because that is exactly what I was going to say. Way different time, even if it was 10-15 years ago, and they were playing towards a different demographic. HHH said on the Stone Cold podcast basically the only reason Chyna isn't in the HOF is because of what you can find of her on the internet. Very hypocritical IMO of him or if it's Vince's call, and I personally don't think Rollins should be punished but it wouldn't surprise me if he is.

[Sauceman]

Edge didnt have pictures of himself holding his crank all over the internet, and I believe even on a direct feed to WWE.com.

[mikecamp99]

Originally Posted by Sauceman

Edge didnt have pictures of himself holding his crank all over the internet, and I believe even on a direct feed to WWE.com.

Haha yea that's the other thing that might get Rollins into hot water is his instagram directly linked to WWE.com. I guess that photo of Schrieber was up for a while on WWE.com before it was finally taken down.

[BoxBreaker72]

Originally Posted by Wolves4Life

Reigns is already over. Cheers or boos Reigns gets a reaction. He's only really been booed 1 time the other was because of how the rumble played out. Not who won it. There are rumors that WM will be another triple threat which would be dumb cause Reigns should have the match solo. Reigns will continue to get over and his promos are vastly improving as well.

I continue to be stumped. I can't figure out if you are a full sledged troll or someone who really just has no idea what he's talking about.

The investigation continues.

[Namttip]

Originally Posted by mikecamp99

Haha yea that's the other thing that might get Rollins into hot water is his instagram directly linked to WWE.com. I guess that photo of Schrieber was up for a while on WWE.com before it was finally taken down.

I would really be surprised if something doesn't happen to him ASAP. They have no tolerance for this in the publicly traded WWE. It shows that they don't have their house in order and investors don't like that at all.

Didn't Mcintyre do something like that and why he got depushed - or drugs or something to that effect.

[ricksam]

i expect that rollins loses his briefcase .. like he lost his briefs sooner than later
maybe a dark match w/o television cameras

and only cole or whoever announces . 'well some news to report, rollins lost his briefcase to Cesaro .. now back to ring w the usos vs the rhodes (again)'

age of pg wrestling .. this wont / shouldnt be allowed

[mikecamp99]

Originally Posted by Namttip

I would really be surprised if something doesn't happen to him ASAP. They have no tolerance for this in the publicly traded WWE. It shows that they don't have their house in order and investors don't like that at all.

Didn't Mcintyre do something like that and why he got depushed - or drugs or something to that effect.

Well I guess his de-push was due to an incident between him and his then wife Taryn Terrell. Though according to an article I just read he was getting demoted even before that acting like a tool backstage.

[GoldStandard000]

Originally Posted by mikecamp99

So I guess last night someone hacked into Seth Rollins instagram and posted a nude photo of NXT Diva Zahra Schrieber. Supposedly he's been cheating on his fiancee Leighla Schultz with this chick, so after this photo got leaked Leighla posted several pictures of Seth Rollins nude.

Rollins might be in some deep s#!t right now because I guess WWE has established a no toleration policy regarding leaked photos of their superstars and divas (even though you can easily find stuff on people like Lana). I'm wondering WWE punishes Rollins for this. I could see something like they have him cash in and lose. Then after he just gets buried in the midcard, losing to guys like Cesaro, Kidd, Fandango and Adam Rose.

Saw on the sheets that he probably won't be punished because it wasn't his doing. I guess we'll have to wait and see. I think WWE has invested too much time into Rollins to turn back now. Its not like Rollins showed his junk on live TV.

[Namttip]

Originally Posted by ricksam

i expect that rollins loses his briefcase .. like he lost his briefs sooner than later
maybe a dark match w/o television cameras

and only cole or whoever announces . 'well some news to report, rollins lost his briefcase to Cesaro .. now back to ring w the usos vs the rhodes (again)'

age of pg wrestling .. this wont / shouldnt be allowed

Nope... won't be allowed. I imagine this means Bray gets the push....

Originally Posted by mikecamp99

Well I guess his de-push was due to an incident between him and his then wife Taryn Terrell. Though according to an article I just read he was getting demoted even before that acting like a tool backstage.

Supposedly from what I have read and heard he was pretty bad backstage. In the Austin interview on his podcast with him he did a shoot without doing a shoot on the Shield... I don't think a lot of guys liked them backstage. Ambrose was on Jericho's podcast and seemed like the most "wrestling" guy out of the three. It seems like Ambrose and Bray just want to be wrestlers, while Rollins and Reigns are just in it because they are successful.

[ricksam]

knowing wwe and poor choices .. im expecting the big show to get rollins' push

[byronscott4ever]

Originally Posted by ricksam

knowing wwe and poor choices .. im expecting the big show to get rollins' push

Don't forget Kane.....

[jmarascojr]

No comments on how smokin hot the chick was on Rollins' feed?

You guys disappoint....

[Wolves4Life]

Originally Posted by BoxBreaker72

I continue to be stumped. I can't figure out if you are a full sledged troll or someone who really just has no idea what he's talking about.

The investigation continues.

I guess you still don't get what being over actually means. Hey it's cool your entitled to your own ignorant opinion though.

[Wolves4Life]

Originally Posted by sjim8660

Ok something happened last night that I missed. Rikishi is going into the HOF? A WWE 1 time IC champ and 1 time WWE Tag champ, why Rikishi? He is one of the least qualified people. There are literally dozens more people you can put in over Rikishi. Like, Kevin Sullivan, Lex Luger, Elizabeth, Ole and Arn Anderson, Rick Rude, I can go on and on. But Rikishi? WTF WWE, why because he is related to the Rock and his kids wrestle now? I always thought Rikishi was over rated and he was a mid carder at best. He probably changed his gimmick 3 different times. And when I say "changed" I don't mean his character evolved, I mean they repackaged him because he sucked. This is stupid and who decision was it to put him in, what a joke.

Rikishi is a 100 percent trainer now and does his own shows. Putting him in helps keep the pipeline of helping WWE open. If it wasn't for Rikishi WWE wouldn't have Rusev right now. I agree that others should be in but there are others in the HOF that shouldn't be there. I hope Luger gets in one day because IMO you can't name a guy who deserves it more than him from the 80s to now. Rude would be 2nd.

[sjim8660]

Originally Posted by jmarascojr

No comments on how smokin hot the chick was on Rollins' feed?

You guys disappoint....

lol, She is hot

At least he didn't pick an ugly chick.
I think she is hotter than the chick he was with. I am not saying what he did was right, but she is fine.

Just in case anyone was wondering here is a pic of her.....

[cdub6238]

gee look who it is guys back with more pertinant insider info

Originally Posted by Wolves4Life

Macho wouldn't go in without his brother and father who are not deserving. Then after he died his brother held it up so how is that WWEs fault?

Can i ask you a serious question...

how do you that Macho wouldnt go in w/o his brother and father exactly?

oh..you mean that rumor that was started by HIS BROTHER, AFTER Randy had died...

ok gotcha

Originally Posted by Wolves4Life

People continue to complain about the littlest of things. RAW was good but people try and make it look like its not. Bryan-Reigns program is good. What WWE is doing is trying to damage Bryan and Reigns in the storyline because they are upset Rollins lost. They are also helping Heyman as they are softening up 1 of them or according to rumors now both for Lesnar while keeping Rollins and his MITB on the back burner.if you don't see what they are trying to do it's because you don't want to see it.

what parts of Raw were good?

-generic opening promo...; - points for Reigns botches, 1 point for DBry's looks comment, 1 point for DBry's wrestling comment...back to - points with HHH repeating himself again and again about Sting

- Big Show/Kane being featured, negative points...more negative points for them catching DBry and then throwing him...into the ropes..back first? ...more negative points for Reigns no selling chair shots for a Superman punch spot

- Rollins needing the help of his lackies to beat down Ryback...in a meaningless less than 5 minute match that made neither look stronger...you guessed it, more negative points

- Divas match..net positive..HEY WHO WOULDA THOUGHT

- Cena/Rusev promo...slight positive; Rusev was great with his addressing the whats and joking on Cena not being able to see him...and the beatdown after..however Cena was typical joke Cena

-Wyatt/Zigglet..net positive, although we saw same match last week

- Heyman/Lesnar..neutral..why waste a Brock appearance for nothing?

- Dust Bros/New Day...how much negative can i give this? pointless match...New Day is terrible gimmick period, and the Dust Bros split is dragging out and stupidly at that

- HHH promo..slight positive...HHH blabbing about the same thing over and over dragged it down terribly...but was saved by the Sting vignette

- Usos/Kidd Cesaro..net positive

- how much negative can i give Sin Cara Hunico actually winning a match on RAW? please refer to Dust Bros split above

- Axel/Ambrose..neutral..nothing match other than to get Ambrose on tv

- ME..clusterf*k

there was very little good to great mixed in with a lot of average to below average...

Originally Posted by Wolves4Life

Reigns is already over. Cheers or boos Reigns gets a reaction. He's only really been booed 1 time the other was because of how the rumble played out. Not who won it. There are rumors that WM will be another triple threat which would be dumb cause Reigns should have the match solo. Reigns will continue to get over and his promos are vastly improving as well.

hahaha whaaaaat???? im not sure you know what "over" means...

what part do you not get that Reigns is not ready for a solo match against the caliber of Brock Lesnar...what has he shown anybody outside of a Superman Punch, Spear and very few limited other "moves"...

let me guess youd argue the same can be said for Brock Lesnar and his suplexes of death...but thats how Brock has been BUILT...to just beat the hell out of people wrestling be damned...Reigns? not so much

also...his promos are getting better? wtf did u smoke last night watching RAW?

he stumbled TWICE in his opening promo..and delivered generic lines like - ive got a spear with your name on it, and - no, i did it because i could

lmfao at you and your defense of Reigns, funny how you are the only one saying these things about him no?

[Wolves4Life]

Originally Posted by cdub6238

gee look who it is guys back with more pertinant insider info



Can i ask you a serious question...

how do you that Macho wouldnt go in w/o his brother and father exactly?

oh..you mean that rumor that was started by HIS BROTHER, AFTER Randy had died...

ok gotcha



what parts of Raw were good?

-generic opening promo...; - points for Reigns botches, 1 point for DBry's looks comment, 1 point for DBry's wrestling comment...back to - points with HHH repeating himself again and again about Sting

- Big Show/Kane being featured, negative points...more negative points for them catching DBry and then throwing him...into the ropes..back first? ...more negative points for Reigns no selling chair shots for a Superman punch spot

- Rollins needing the help of his lackies to beat down Ryback...in a meaningless less than 5 minute match that made neither look stronger...you guessed it, more negative points

- Divas match..net positive..HEY WHO WOULDA THOUGHT

- Cena/Rusev promo...slight positive; Rusev was great with his addressing the whats and joking on Cena not being able to see him...and the beatdown after..however Cena was typical joke Cena

-Wyatt/Zigglet..net positive, although we saw same match last week

- Heyman/Lesnar..neutral..why waste a Brock appearance for nothing?

- Dust Bros/New Day...how much negative can i give this? pointless match...New Day is terrible gimmick period, and the Dust Bros split is dragging out and stupidly at that

- HHH promo..slight positive...HHH blabbing about the same thing over and over dragged it down terribly...but was saved by the Sting vignette

- Usos/Kidd Cesaro..net positive

- how much negative can i give Sin Cara Hunico actually winning a match on RAW? please refer to Dust Bros split above

- Axel/Ambrose..neutral..nothing match other than to get Ambrose on tv

- ME..clusterf*k

there was very little good to great mixed in with a lot of average to below average...



hahaha whaaaaat???? im not sure you know what "over" means...

what part do you not get that Reigns is not ready for a solo match against the caliber of Brock Lesnar...what has he shown anybody outside of a Superman Punch, Spear and very few limited other "moves"...

let me guess youd argue the same can be said for Brock Lesnar and his suplexes of death...but thats how Brock has been BUILT...to just beat the hell out of people wrestling be damned...Reigns? not so much

also...his promos are getting better? wtf did u smoke last night watching RAW?

he stumbled TWICE in his opening promo..and delivered generic lines like - ive got a spear with your name on it, and - no, i did it because i could

lmfao at you and your defense of Reigns, funny how you are the only one saying these things about him no?

People stupidly say Cena only has 5 moves but yet him and Lesnar has never disappointed. Only reason people don't like Reigns is because they think Bryan DESERVES the match with Lesnar. I like Bryan but he had his moment and dropped the ball by getting hurt. Yes getting hurt is never your fault but he hasn't toned down since he's been back. Reigns is the new face right now. Greats have failed in their first run with the title and come back strong. You don't know what people have until you give them a chance. The smart marks think they know everything which is bad. Give Reigns a chance to sink or swim and you can't say now how he will do you will only assume.

[BoxBreaker72]

Originally Posted by Wolves4Life

I guess you still don't get what being over actually means. Hey it's cool your entitled to your own ignorant opinion though.

You have no clue what over means. Stop. You don't know much of anything about the business judging by your posts. Please, for the love of god stop.

[cdub6238]

Originally Posted by Wolves4Life

People stupidly say Cena only has 5 moves but yet him and Lesnar has never disappointed. Only reason people don't like Reigns is because they think Bryan DESERVES the match with Lesnar. I like Bryan but he had his moment and dropped the ball by getting hurt. Yes getting hurt is never your fault but he hasn't toned down since he's been back. Reigns is the new face right now. Greats have failed in their first run with the title and come back strong. You don't know what people have until you give them a chance. The smart marks think they know everything which is bad. Give Reigns a chance to sink or swim and you can't say now how he will do you will only assume.

no..and you say everyone else thinks they know everything..ohhh the irony

Cena has his 5 moves of doom yes, but those are what you call signature moves...it doesnt mean thats all he ever does in a match or will do...

what exactly DOES Reigns do..besides Superman punch..Spear...the apron kick/leg drop whatever...

what maybe a suplex or chokeslam or somethin?

as far as the hate for Reigns or at least mine...it has nothing to do with Bryan at all...

here ill break it down for you:

- hes being forced, just like Cena
- his booking has been terrible
- he has no personality/character of his own yet
- hes green as a wrestler
- hes even more green on the mic

what does any of that have to do with liking Bryan or not?

[Pot Roast]

I find it really weird that Rollins cheated on his fiancee with a women who looks a lot like his fiancee. He should have went after lana and dem legs.

I think WWE are going to bury Rollins, and have the authority say we believed in Reigns all along, how everything was trial to see if you had what it takes blah blah blah.

[mikecamp99]

Originally Posted by Wolves4Life

People stupidly say Cena only has 5 moves but yet him and Lesnar has never disappointed. Only reason people don't like Reigns is because they think Bryan DESERVES the match with Lesnar. I like Bryan but he had his moment and dropped the ball by getting hurt. Yes getting hurt is never your fault but he hasn't toned down since he's been back. Reigns is the new face right now. Greats have failed in their first run with the title and come back strong. You don't know what people have until you give them a chance. The smart marks think they know everything which is bad. Give Reigns a chance to sink or swim and you can't say now how he will do you will only assume.

People were booing Reigns before Bryan was even announced to come back. People don't like Reigns because he's being shoved down their throats everyweek. That opening match almost made me want to throw up last night, the way all the announcers we just loving on Reigns, Oh let's show that spear from last week 10 more times, that's got to be the biggest spear EVER! Haha, There is so much I want to say but don't want to get suspended.

Me personally, Reigns is not believable for one second. He sucks at talking, he can barely wrestle and I don't mind the stupid gimmick move like a super man punch but don't rely heavily on it like its going to kill your opponent, up until this week the whole I'm going to be just like John Cena and make jokes and tell stories makes me just embarrassed for him. I hope he's embarrassed going out there looking foolish, should give him drive to be better than that.

This heel turn could be a good thing, get away from the stupid story telling and looney tune catch phrases. Keep his promos short so he doesn't stumble, make him pissed off more and not a smiling goon. Reigns definitely has potential but he's being pushed way too fast.

[Nyfancam01]

If dean, roman and daniel could all go away that would be GREAT.

they could all leave the wwe and i'd be stoked.