Ansu Fati Rookie

[mangia1976]

Originally Posted by WHyFLy

Here's my two senses on your comment:

1) If you are worried about condition, just fork up the money and buy graded. Trying to play the make profit off of grading especially on MGK won't happen. The card alone is incredibly difficult with surface being the worst aspect. So unless you are looking at the card in person, you won't likely know what you are getting unless you want to take a gamble.

2) Yes, you are correct on what is the current "top 3" of Fati. Until we know what Topps Chrome will hold, the top 3 is MGK, Contenders, and Obsidian. Which of the 3 will I believe hold true to its price? MGK and Contenders. Why? Because both have the historical context in sports with MGK dating back as the "truest" rookie with Messi and Ronaldo and Contenders holding incredibly popularity in other sports in the hobby.

3) Yes, he is at a high now, but there is not offseason really in soccer. People will continually play especially with Euros. Fati's club season will not end until May and then immediately he will be entering the Euros in June and back to preseason warmups in July/August. If you want to play the waiting game, then you can gamble and pray he does end up having a Chrome rookie because if he does not, these rookies will become double the price we are seeing due to limited production.

Want my opinion, go buy right now. I do not believe you will lose at all, but trying to buy in a month time or so, you will either be really happy or really sad.

Thanks for this awesome breakdown! Great analysis, I appreciate it!

Originally Posted by kent1976

I like the design of Contenders Ticket. Especially the Red T-Mall version, from the pop report stat, it seems that very rare. For now, only 14 graded, and from the Tmall information on the sale day, only about 2200 boxes for sale, and according to 12 players in La Liga ticket checklist, so maybe only less than 200 Red Fati ticket is produced.

Damn I wish I would've known about the red over the summer- I'm seeing some completed auctions in the $80s! Now $300+

Originally Posted by twist1one

heres a 9.5 i bought a few weeks back with a 10 centering.Attachment 494604

Nice! Yeah I may have to bite the bullet and go graded. Like a previous post said I like the value of a PSA 8 Mega for long term.

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[fadster]

Looks like he's going to be out for a few months with a tear of the internal meniscus of the left knee. It'll cool things off for a bit but he should have enough time to re-establish himself in the team and make the Euro 2021 squad.

[psochaps]

Big blow but he’s young. Lots of time to bring him back slowly next year.

[Dr kicker]

Originally Posted by twist1one

heres a 9.5 i bought a few weeks back with a 10 centering.Attachment 494604

Dont know if its the light reflexion but all i can see is the 4 white corners.

[YayNJ]

Originally Posted by Dr kicker

Dont know if its the light reflexion but all i can see is the 4 white corners.

Top right is pretty bad

[twist1one]

Originally Posted by Dr kicker

Dont know if its the light reflexion but all i can see is the 4 white corners.

Originally Posted by YayNJ

Top right is pretty bad

the corners are a 9 for sure but looking at it in hand with a magnifier they look decent. like was stated by another poster the top right was why it got a 9. the back is pretty sharp on all them even the top right though.

[Bruin7]

Wow I guess the people have spoken. Collectors love the Mega rookie card. This kid is LEGIT. Just wished the Obsidian would level off a bit.

[IndySportsCards]

Taking a look at the 8/9/10 grades for the Megacracks Fati card, out of those three grades, 10's are only hit 13.48% of the time. TOUGH card. You have a better shot at a 10 with the sticker at 45.57%

[netmasters]

Originally Posted by IndySportsCards

Taking a look at the 8/9/10 grades for the Megacracks Fati card, out of those three grades, 10's are only hit 13.48% of the time. TOUGH card. You have a better shot at a 10 with the sticker at 45.57%

Based on experience of buying and submitting I expect that PSA 10 % to go down. I think the early people got lucky. I don't think there a lot of 10's still sitting in Spain.

[SupermanBrandon]

Originally Posted by netmasters

Based on experience of buying and submitting I expect that PSA 10 % to go down. I think the early people got lucky. I don't think there a lot of 10's still sitting in Spain.

I've been thru over 100+ raw MGKs personally...haven't found a single 10. Most are 8s or worse. These cards are super condition sensitive. Plus IT IS his Rookie card.

[KhalDrogo]

Originally Posted by IndySportsCards

Taking a look at the 8/9/10 grades for the Megacracks Fati card, out of those three grades, 10's are only hit 13.48% of the time. TOUGH card. You have a better shot at a 10 with the sticker at 45.57%

Might be 13% of the cards subbed, but I have a hard time believing more than 5% come out of the pack gem.

[fadster]

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

Might be 13% of the cards subbed, but I have a hard time believing more than 5% come out of the pack gem.

I've been opening some 20/21 second edition boxes and they're not much better, the foil cards are especially horrific.

[netmasters]

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

Might be 13% of the cards subbed, but I have a hard time believing more than 5% come out of the pack gem.

If 5% out of pack are 10 I would say 1% would make it to PSA as a 10. Some people is Spain just don’t treat their cards the way you need to to keep a 10. I would say 25% of the shipping would ruin a 10 and the corners are just as bad. That doesn’t include the inherent production problems.

[YayNJ]

Originally Posted by netmasters

Some people is Spain just don’t treat their cards the way you need to to keep a 10.

I've seen this meme a few times now on Blowout. Why exactly do people think people in Europe treat their cards worse than Americans?

I mean, end of the day you are paying premium prices for bits of sticky paper that are mass produced to go in childrens sticker books.

[Ianhatcher]

Originally Posted by YayNJ

I've seen this meme a few times now on Blowout. Why exactly do people think people in Europe treat their cards worse than Americans?

I mean, end of the day you are paying premium prices for bits of sticky paper that are mass produced to go in childrens sticker books.

I bought a raw Mega Craques CR7 RC #137 last year from a guy in Portugal for $800 on Ebay and the guy sent it to me in the cut out portion of the binder page and an envelope with zero padding.

It wasn't damaged luckily and I placed a grade of about a PSA 6 or 7 on it from the pics and it got a 6 but I've bought several items from people in Europe and that is pretty much par for the course.

From what I have seen they use lots of binder pages because they collect sets but with grading becoming more popular I think that may start to change.

[IndySportsCards]

The last card I ordered from Spain came in a plain white envelope with no protection. You're really gambling buying from overseas IMHO as they may personally treat their cards well, but lack of shipping protection may cause unsightly damage

[YayNJ]

Originally Posted by Ianhatcher

I bought a raw Mega Craques CR7 RC #137 last year from a guy in Portugal for $800 on Ebay and the guy sent it to me in the cut out portion of the binder page and an envelope with zero padding.

I've had more PWE from the States than anywhere else. (the most memorable being a Luca Rated Rookie that I paid $30 shipping for, and then custom charges on top lol) It's hardly a European problem. There's ignorant people everywhere. Infact when I first got into the hobby years ago, I thought I was doing it wrong and wasting money sending everything in padded envelopes because I got so many PWE's from abroad.

Fact is though, toploaders and penny sleeves (and I speak for the UK here) are easier to get here than in America. Card collecting isn't some new thing. If you are are buying children's stickers online from a second hand market place you have to expect that the product is going to be a pile of shite.

[AsianBrizz]

Over the past ten years, I've bought LOTS of cards from Spain and elsewhere around Europe, and my experience shows me that American collectors pack their cards much better than their European counterparts. I don't know why, but so many Europeans use tape...TAPE!? wtf...? I'm not 100% sure, but I don't think I've ever received a card from Europe in a penny sleeve, in a toploader, in a team bag, which is pretty much the recommended method that many American collectors follow.

Edit: Okay, now that I've thought about it, I have received a couple cards from Sweden packed this way...and probably a few from other places. But this is still a minority, and I think my initial point stands.

[fadster]

This is why I tried boxes from Spain this year, a bit fed up with binder sleeve cut outs, cling film, insane amounts of Sellotape and bits of cereal boxes.

[KhalDrogo]

My first batch of Fati stickers from Spain came in soft sleeves. Nothing else. Just loose in the bubble mailer they were sent in. Didn't look damaged in transit, but weren't in as good of condition as I expected them to be.

[netmasters]

I'm now up to 20+ orders of the Fati Megacracks from Spain. I'm not talking about stickers. I'm talking about cards. Only about half have been in penny sleeves and top loaders. I got one simply wrapped in saran wrap which was impossible to unwrap without essentially ruining the card. I got 3 in one penny sleeve with no top loader. I've got 100's and 100's of cards from American sellers and you can't even compare the two. This is not meant to be a slight to Spain collectors. There are some great ones.

[SupermanBrandon]

Originally Posted by YayNJ

I've seen this meme a few times now on Blowout. Why exactly do people think people in Europe treat their cards worse than Americans?

I mean, end of the day you are paying premium prices for bits of sticky paper that are mass produced to go in childrens sticker books.

I recently bought a stack of raw cards from a guy in Europe. Approx $1k worth. He sent them all in penny sleeves, wrapped in tissue paper. No toploaders. No cardboard. When I confronted him about it, he said thats how he and his friends all ship their cards.

[YayNJ]

Did you know we all have brown teeth and in France they cycle around with onions round their neck too!

[IndySportsCards]

Originally Posted by YayNJ

Did you know we all have brown teeth and in France they cycle around with onions round their neck too!

[larryhughes]

Topps chrome baby