Sports Card Investor from YouTube...

[patchgenie]

bye felicia

[ninjacookies]

Obviously current society isn't about what you know...it's about who you know.


Clout trumps actual credentials. People put stock in follower numbers as a gauge of legitimacy.

Soccer dad understands this well. His underlying logic doesn't have to be sound or correct...or be based on a strong understanding of card market dynamics or in-depth player analysis. He just has to present himself in a professional manner and utilize the fancy market analyst angle to impress the financially strapped NEETs.



Not that complicated....gain large following ---> car doors go up.

[Fratboy]

Ninja.... RESPECT

[RyanMW]

I really dislike this guy. In my impression, he saw the sports cop hobby as a burgeoning business that he could sink his teeth into, and used an "investing" show via YouTube as his way to get in. He's 100% in it for the money and nothing else, and he's trying to make money directly off of the hobby sheep. Gary Vee is clearly his idol, which is all kinds of gross.

As others have said, the guy doesn't watch basketball. He can't pronounce any names, and his terminology is always odd. Also, I found the episode w/ his kid to be really cringey. The kid was super excited and kind of annoying and you could see Geoff becoming frustrated with him but keeping it together for the camera. He barely spoke to his kid at all the entire video, he just kept focused on speaking to his sheeple.

Also, I like PSA collector a little better, but it's fairly clear that he's a dummy who doesn't watch the sport either. He says things like "this guy makes a lot of three baskets" or "he is known for his outside three."

I'm glad someone made this thread. I watch these guys because I'll watch literally anything sports card related right now, but there are just so many scummy snake oil salesman in this hobby and this guy is one of the cringiest and most obvious.

Oh, also. I have a ton of D'Lo and Simons. Time to sell.

[CircleTheWagon]

The way he says "Ja" Morant is hilarious...

Put the new Rotogrinders Sports Card show in this pile of cringey shows about cards on youtube. This Sports Investor Man was on one episode I saw, spouting off about all the money you can make off sports cards.

[junkwaxera]

He has found a way to be the face of the sports card hobby, but the guy is a total huckster.

Of his virtual card show is free, why do we need to sign up with our email? I don’t want to give him my data.

Card Ladder does the same for much cheaper.


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[junkwaxera]

I am a fan of Gary Vee. You can feel his passion, that is it his favourite hobby. Ignore the haters, Gary Vee!

[FreshOutThePack]

If you need someone to tell you what/who to collect, you are not a hobby purist.

Plain and simple.

Guy I met at walmart talkin about Jasson Rodriguez is the next big thing, I'm talking to you.

Jabs with his promoting of garbage gold re-packs

Gary with his fraud

SCI is just phony

Phil selling his own re-packs and pack weighing

The new one today I just saw, these two dudes who are brothers, Cape something or the other, trying to tell people what to buy when they barely came back in 2018. (What I gathered from about a minute of the video.)

Not even complaining, just pointing out truth/facts and calling it how it is.

[Kquinn]

The guys listed above all have their own angle, but they like sports and are creating content. I don’t know what the point of being a hobby purist is, but if they aren’t they they are still talking shop and engaging people.

I might have preferences about style or whatever, but they’re bringing people into the game and aren’t being jerks about it.

[YouTheManNick]

I don't mind PSA Collector because he gets into random 90's inserts and as someone who's just in it to collect and not money sometimes he'll show a 90's insert that I either forgot about or didn't know about and I'll like the design so I'll go to comc and buy a couple if there's one of a Bulls player or an A's player, etc. depending on the sport.

I wish there was more content geared solely toward collecting and appreciating cards for being cards and not investments. Wax Museum and Breaker Culture are probably the closest. House of Jordans straddles the line between collecting and investing. They clearly are passionate about cards as cards while simultaneously looking at them from an investment perspective. Which is fine.

I actually got lucky and landed a Poole /49 RPA from a $13 NT spot in a Houdini break. I had really hoped to keep it because it's a NT RPA and I've never owned one, but maybe I should sell while it has some value...

[FreshOutThePack]

Originally Posted by YouTheManNick

I don't mind PSA Collector because he gets into random 90's inserts and as someone who's just in it to collect and not money sometimes he'll show a 90's insert that I either forgot about or didn't know about and I'll like the design so I'll go to comc and buy a couple if there's one of a Bulls player or an A's player, etc. depending on the sport.

I wish there was more content geared solely toward collecting and appreciating cards for being cards and not investments. Wax Museum and Breaker Culture are probably the closest. House of Jordans straddles the line between collecting and investing. They clearly are passionate about cards as cards while simultaneously looking at them from an investment perspective. Which is fine.

I actually got lucky and landed a Poole /49 RPA from a $13 NT spot in a Houdini break. I had really hoped to keep it because it's a NT RPA and I've never owned one, but maybe I should sell while it has some value...

Hey, ain't nothing wrong with selling stuff off.

And yeah it is cool to talk, absorb info, and appreciate collecting with fellow collectors. Love going to the lcs and enjoying cards with other guys who obviously love and have a passion for collecting. Love coming here and seeing the latest products/trends being discussed.

For me, though, it's such a bad vibe from the guys I listed above. They just come off as greasy one way, another, or even multiple ways.

The hobby would be better off and more healthy without all of them. I know it's easy to say "oh they bring money into the hobby", but last I checked I don't see anybody truly happy about the rising cost of boxes/cases.

We do all realize that even the recent increase in cost of supplies isn't coming back down anytime soon, right? Regardless if there is a shortage or surplus.

[Bruin7]

I wish we could get these influencers up on a podium to debate/discuss card trends...against me. I'd love to talk cards with these guys.

[MikeEsCards]

Originally Posted by ninjacookies

Obviously current society isn't about what you know...it's about who you know.


Clout trumps actual credentials. People put stock in follower numbers as a gauge of legitimacy.

Soccer dad understands this well. His underlying logic doesn't have to be sound or correct...or be based on a strong understanding of card market dynamics or in-depth player analysis. He just has to present himself in a professional manner and utilize the fancy market analyst angle to impress the financially strapped NEETs.



Not that complicated....gain large following ---> car doors go up.

Amen brother! Can I invest in some Ninja Cookies PSA 10’s please!

[k13]

Originally Posted by jcardstore

I’m convinced most of these “investors” don’t even watch basketball.

Sorry, Poole has no upside. Simons has little to no upside. Don’t want to hear “oh they’re so young” “oh Simons scored like 27 points in that one game last season”.

Seriously, if you want to find out who’s got upside and who doesn’t just watch a game. Watch some film.

Lonzo is going to be a pretty decent NBA player but why on earth would you invest in him? Has there ever been a 3rd wheel on a borderline playoff team that really goes up in value?

Bagley sucks. He’s a defensive black hole, has no meaningful offensive game and oh yea, he’s always hurt somehow.

This is nothing more than a dude who got suckered into rookie hype and wants to pump some of his failed investments.

Most basketball "experts" said Luka was going to be another Euro dud. All these guys do is scout and watch film and still don't know the future.

Poole could be garbage but that's irrelevant because all it takes is one injury, some playing time and a streak of a few good games and cards go 5x especially since they are so cheap anyway. No one thinks he'll be some Finals MVP one day. It's all about the quick flip.

[hauntedcomputer]

I wouldn't worry. These guys will be the first gone when the bubble bursts. They are actually the sign and symptom of the bubble and will hasten the pop. Then we'll see who is still left in the "hobby." Seen this movie before. Hell, I had a bit part in it.

[Sal]

Anyone here watch Sasha??

[nowiamsad]

Originally Posted by hauntedcomputer

I wouldn't worry. These guys will be the first gone when the bubble bursts. They are actually the sign and symptom of the bubble and will hasten the pop. Then we'll see who is still left in the "hobby." Seen this movie before. Hell, I had a bit part in it.

I agree, but when will it pop? Will it pop?

I think you’d have to see a lot of people suddenly leave the market and I’m not sure that’s gonna happen anytime soon unless the economy really takes a #@#@#@#@, and even then, it will only be a problem if supply surpasses demand.

With all the whales out there, and speculators to gobble up price drops.

Project 2020 is a good example. It burst and people left. It burst because there was a mass exodus of people who got burned, and there wasn’t enough demand to keep the prices up. That makes sense, but I don’t see the same happening in cards unless there’s a major shake up.

[brothertona]

I mean at least Gary Vee likes sports, and really knows the hobby - when he comes out with ideas and thoughts they make sense. Yeah he pumps (says he doesn't dump) but he doesn't have a weird discord - doesn't charge for advice, doesn't claim to be an expert and for the most part enjoys collecting. Sports Card Investor - really only caters to the uninformed. Your flip bois - shelf clearers - bot bois.

[brothertona]

Who are these experts saying that Luka was going to be a dud? Anyone that knew basketball knew that Luka was a star - god the fall-out after the Luka/Trae trade in Atlanta. I think Trae will be a 10 to 15yr starter and will lead the Hawks to the playoffs multiple times and think he is a championship level talent - Luka is a supernova talent. If you want to know why Cam Reddish gets so much hype in the A - is Luka

[Archangel1775]

Gary Vee is pretty down to earth. He also doesn't claim to know everything. He was a collector growing up and just like most of us,came back into the hobby at some point and moved to slabs. Obviously he's highly influential in general and has a great following that can move the needle in this hobby. I had a wrong first impression about him and can now see that he's actually a pretty likable guy. As for PSA Collector, he comes across as a novice so his information is more for the laymen. SCI, I dont see why anyone needs to pay for the info he shares but to each his own. I'm not impressed with his price charts but some may be. In general, I ask myself are they good for the hobby or are they toxic? Similar sentiment can be shared here. Are these members good for the boards or are they toxic? If not, carry on, if so, just ignore them.

[YouTheManNick]

Originally Posted by FreshOutThePack

For me, though, it's such a bad vibe from the guys I listed above. They just come off as greasy one way, another, or even multiple ways.

I'm totally with you on SCI. I used to listen to him on the way to work when still actually physically went in to work because I try to listen to all card content. Now I just can't. Everything about that dude puts me off.

But these days I'm really trying to not waste energy hating on people. That's why I didn't mention him in my comment. Too much of that in the world. If I don't like someone or something I just ignore it / them and move on.

[Cubs_rock21]

To be fair Bagley and Lonzo arent bad buys lol.

[Cubs_rock21]

I hope Gary Vee randomly Shows off Dylan windler collection. I pulled a ton of that guy.

[jcardstore]

Originally Posted by k13

Most basketball "experts" said Luka was going to be another Euro dud. All these guys do is scout and watch film and still don't know the future.

Poole could be garbage but that's irrelevant because all it takes is one injury, some playing time and a streak of a few good games and cards go 5x especially since they are so cheap anyway. No one thinks he'll be some Finals MVP one day. It's all about the quick flip.

Please, show me all the experts saying he was going to be a dud. Anyone who is worth anything as a talent evaluator said he was going to be a superstar in the NBA. Anyone who said he was too slow and unathletic to be a star either didn't watch any of his tape, had absolutely no clue what they were watching/talking about, or just parroted some crap takes that euro players sucked in the NBA as if it had anything to do with Luka.

Dudes on BO were saying his ceiling was Hedo lmao. Go back and read the thread I created saying Luka was going to be far and away the best player of his draft and just go read some of the crap "analysis" by the BO card experts.

If your only rationale behind buying Poole is that in case of an injury and if he has a few good games his cards go up in price you're going to lose a lot of money on a lot of players. That can apply to literally any bench player in the league. The dude just isn't good. He's mediocre at best like his ceiling is a rotation player / fringe starter on a bad team. His only real NBA skill coming out was shooting and he didn't even prove he could do that consistently against NBA level defenders.

Most flippers are clueless about the nuances of the game and really just buy whatever some dude with clout tells them to. I always go back to the hilarious week buying spree of Terrance Ferguson. Unless you time the tiny window of spike buying perfectly, you will lose money

[Ginger Ale]

Originally Posted by Bruin7

I wish we could get these influencers up on a podium to debate/discuss card trends...against me. I'd love to talk cards with these guys.

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