Net to Me

[asujbl]

Bump because it’s still a plague on our hobby

[RookieAddict]

Claimed a card on Facebook that had a price on it. Then afterwards the guy gives me the NET bullsh!t and says $15 for insurance/shipping Yeah no thanks

Originally Posted by asujbl

Bump because it’s still a plague on our hobby

[rats60]

Originally Posted by GoNYGoNYGo

Can you imagine if retail stores did that - oh sorry you are paying with a credit card this price is net so since the credit card charges at .002% fee that will actually be x additional on the price listed haha.

I agree its incredibly stupid and a pain - if you are selling online know that the price of being able to reach that many people is that you need to pay fees for access if you don't want to pay fees then sell locally and at shows.

I have a handful of people that I have done lots of deals with that I am willing to pay friends and family but unless I've done multiple high end deals with you I am 100% not paying friends and family no matter how many people you have that will vouch for you.

There are plenty of businesses that do. Except it is illegal to add a charge for credit cards so they give a discount for cash. The rest just add the credit card fee to everything and pocket the extra profit for those who pay cash. If you pay bills online, there are many who add a "service fee" to have you pay with a credit card though a third party.

Wow, lots of snowflakes here. It is pretty common on Net54 and no one gets offended. Most of the rest have a cash and credit card price. You guys better stay away from their BST. Are our schools so bad now that people can't add 3%?

[GoNYGoNYGo]

Originally Posted by rats60

There are plenty of businesses that do. Except it is illegal to add a charge for credit cards so they give a discount for cash. The rest just add the credit card fee to everything and pocket the extra profit for those who pay cash. If you pay bills online, there are many who add a "service fee" to have you pay with a credit card though a third party.

Wow, lots of snowflakes here. It is pretty common on Net54 and no one gets offended. Most of the rest have a cash and credit card price. You guys better stay away from their BST. Are our schools so bad now that people can't add 3%?

Are our schools so bad that sellers can’t add 3% to their price? Factor fees into your selling price none of us are businesses - most of the time I include shipping in my price if it’s above like $50 let alone the paypal fees


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[asujbl]

Originally Posted by RookieAddict

Claimed a card on Facebook that had a price on it. Then afterwards the guy gives me the NET bullsh!t and says $15 for insurance/shipping Yeah no thanks

I like you

[asujbl]

Originally Posted by rats60

There are plenty of businesses that do. Except it is illegal to add a charge for credit cards so they give a discount for cash. The rest just add the credit card fee to everything and pocket the extra profit for those who pay cash. If you pay bills online, there are many who add a "service fee" to have you pay with a credit card though a third party.

Wow, lots of snowflakes here. It is pretty common on Net54 and no one gets offended. Most of the rest have a cash and credit card price. You guys better stay away from their BST. Are our schools so bad now that people can't add 3%?

I don’t like you

[asujbl]

Originally Posted by GoNYGoNYGo

Are our schools so bad that sellers can’t add 3% to their price? Factor fees into your selling price none of us are businesses - most of the time I include shipping in my price if it’s above like $50 let alone the paypal fees


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I like you

[rats60]

Originally Posted by GoNYGoNYGo

Are our schools so bad that sellers can’t add 3% to their price? Factor fees into your selling price none of us are businesses - most of the time I include shipping in my price if it’s above like $50 let alone the paypal fees


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It is not that big of a deal that you should be so triggered if they don't. If I see a card that I want at a fair price, I am going to buy it. I am not going to throw a temper tantrum because I have to do simple math.

[GoNYGoNYGo]

Originally Posted by rats60

It is not that big of a deal that you should be so triggered if they don't. If I see a card that I want at a fair price, I am going to buy it. I am not going to throw a temper tantrum because I have to do simple math.

Im not sure where I was throwing a temper tantrum - I’m just saying it’s stupid as a seller to explicitly state you need to pay the fees - factor it into your price if you are that concerned about the 3% fee that is the cost of you being able to receive payment through and use their services.

I have also found that as a general rule of thumb the people who are nitpicking so much that they are talking about the Paypal fees are generally not people that are easy and enjoyable to deal with anyway.

End of the day my feeling is that you should include the fees in your asking price - as a buyer I shouldn’t have to read your fineprint to know you are pushing the sellers fees onto me. Typically unless it’s a rare card if I see net to me I’m just ignoring the sale and you are alienating a portion of your buyers so it’s not a good business idea IMO anyway.


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[asujbl]

Bump because it needs to be bumped

[jcardstore]

Originally Posted by asujbl

Bump because it needs to be bumped

Never saw or noticed this until you posted this thread. Now every time I see it, it makes me rage.

I blame you

[asujbl]

Originally Posted by jcardstore

Never saw or noticed this until you posted this thread. Now every time I see it, it makes me rage.

I blame you

Just saw one in BST so it needs a bump

I hate it. I hate it so much.

Add the damn seller fees (again SELLER fees) to your price you lazy person.

[Boo]

Originally Posted by asujbl

Just saw one in BST so it needs a bump

I hate it. I hate it so much.

Add the damn seller fees (again SELLER fees) to your price you lazy person.

I pay someone else to do that for me.

[notfast]

I love the fact there will always be people on blowout on an even higher horse than me.

[asujbl]

Originally Posted by Boo

I pay someone else to do that for me.

I know. You are paying PayPal seller fees so you don’t have to do it if you had your own credit card intermediary

[Siberian13]

Originally Posted by notfast

I love the fact there will always be people on blowout on an even higher horse than me.

Yeah agreed. Those Net to me high horse riders.

[asujbl]

Originally Posted by notfast

I love the fact there will always be people on blowout on an even higher horse than me.

I will die on this hill

I’m sure lots of sellers have made sales, eventually, but they could have made them quicker if they just gave me a price DLVD. Probably lost 3% on that time value of money.

I pass on at least 3-5 cards a day (especially on Facebook) that I absolutely would have bought then and there

You tell me to add 3% you can kick rocks

[JeremyNick]

Originally Posted by jcardstore

Never saw or noticed this until you posted this thread. Now every time I see it, it makes me rage.

I blame you

[asujbl]

Gas station just asked me to add a 2.5% CC processing fee on my purchase. Called me lazy for not doing it. It shouldn’t take me that long so why was I complaining and telling them they should have already done it?

Bastards.

[irfuji]

Originally Posted by rats60

It is not that big of a deal that you should be so triggered if they don't. If I see a card that I want at a fair price, I am going to buy it. I am not going to throw a temper tantrum because I have to do simple math.

Although it's not as simple as adding 3%.

3% of $100 is $3.

If I pay $103 and PP takes 3% of the $103, seller ends up with $99.91. Is that good/close enough? Is the seller going to demand that I give them the full $100 net?

What if they want $5 in shipping on top of that? 3% of $105 is $3.15. So seller gets $101.85, minus the $5 they wanted for shipping they net $96.85.

Is it difficult to go find an online calculator and figure it out? Nope. That's why the seller should do that if they want to do the whole net to me thing.

[asujbl]

Originally Posted by irfuji

Although it's not as simple as adding 3%.

3% of $100 is $3.

If I pay $103 and PP takes 3% of the $103, seller ends up with $99.91. Is that good/close enough? Is the seller going to demand that I give them the full $100 net?

What if they want $5 in shipping on top of that? 3% of $105 is $3.15. So seller gets $101.85, minus the $5 they wanted for shipping they net $96.85.

Is it difficult to go find an online calculator and figure it out? Nope. That's why the seller should do that if they want to do the whole net to me thing.

Big fan

[asujbl]

Originally Posted by irfuji

Although it's not as simple as adding 3%.

3% of $100 is $3.

If I pay $103 and PP takes 3% of the $103, seller ends up with $99.91. Is that good/close enough? Is the seller going to demand that I give them the full $100 net?

What if they want $5 in shipping on top of that? 3% of $105 is $3.15. So seller gets $101.85, minus the $5 they wanted for shipping they net $96.85.

Is it difficult to go find an online calculator and figure it out? Nope. That's why the seller should do that if they want to do the whole net to me thing.

To your point... there is a card posted on BST right now, that triggered my bump, at X.XX “net”

Net of only fees? Net of shipping? Shipping is free? What if the fees are slightly off because of the calculator I used vs the one you used (shouldn't but this is the interet) They don’t say...

Next thing will net of PP fees and eBay fees

Just say the damn price is X and the card shows up

[RookieAddict]

PREACH IT

Originally Posted by irfuji

Although it's not as simple as adding 3%.

3% of $100 is $3.

If I pay $103 and PP takes 3% of the $103, seller ends up with $99.91. Is that good/close enough? Is the seller going to demand that I give them the full $100 net?

What if they want $5 in shipping on top of that? 3% of $105 is $3.15. So seller gets $101.85, minus the $5 they wanted for shipping they net $96.85.

Is it difficult to go find an online calculator and figure it out? Nope. That's why the seller should do that if they want to do the whole net to me thing.

[Asian62150]

"Net to me" is a dog whistle for "Pay me FF."

[Willikn]

Originally Posted by irfuji

Although it's not as simple as adding 3%.

3% of $100 is $3.

If I pay $103 and PP takes 3% of the $103, seller ends up with $99.91. Is that good/close enough? Is the seller going to demand that I give them the full $100 net?

What if they want $5 in shipping on top of that? 3% of $105 is $3.15. So seller gets $101.85, minus the $5 they wanted for shipping they net $96.85.

Is it difficult to go find an online calculator and figure it out? Nope. That's why the seller should do that if they want to do the whole net to me thing.

That isn't the end game. The end game is to convince you to pay cash F&F. They aren't allowed to ask for that (not here anyway), so this is the work around.

Conversely, I have assumed that "PayPal Loaded" means you are game to paying cash F&F.