Is PSA better since Nat took over?

[discodanman45]

PSA is an ultra-modern grading machine throwing 9/10's on 90% of cards. They could care less about any type of vintage collectors and older registry collectors. I have stacks of cards from 1900's to 1970 that I need graded. SGC and CGC will get these cards. PSA would rather grade Pokemon cards and base rookies from overproduced products instead of what I collect. They made their choice and I made mine

[larry25]

Originally Posted by discodanman45

PSA is an ultra-modern grading machine throwing 9/10's on 90% of cards. They could care less about any type of vintage collectors and older registry collectors. I have stacks of cards from 1900's to 1970 that I need graded. SGC and CGC will get these cards. PSA would rather grade Pokemon cards and base rookies from overproduced products instead of what I collect. They made their choice and I made mine

Wow. Burn! I feel this.

[Scottish Punk]

Originally Posted by Bosoxfan5990

What many people fail to realize is these "professionals" are likely making a low hourly wage. People likely believe these PSA "experts" are making 6 figures a year due to the value of the cards they're tasked with grading.

Collectors Universe had a job posting up at the beginning of December for a PSA grader. Entry-level graders are making $17/hour, while more experienced graders make $20-$32/hour.

These "professionals" are regular people like you and I, who are handling cards that are worth more than their yearly salaries, in some instances.

Yes, this exactly. They are McDonalds. Efficiency and throughput with healthy profit margins are more important than accuracy or quality. They are the market leader by a bunch. Just keep pumping out 1.2 million a month.

[anusinha]

Originally Posted by Scottish Punk

Yes, this exactly. They are McDonalds. Efficiency and throughput with healthy profit margins are more important than accuracy or quality. They are the market leader by a bunch. Just keep pumping out 1.2 million a month.

yeah, people are more than happy to send in piles of $1 base/tcg cards to try and turn them into $30 PSA 10s.

[PLB9eight]

Originally Posted by Scottish Punk

Yes, this exactly. They are McDonalds. Efficiency and throughput with healthy profit margins are more important than accuracy or quality. They are the market leader by a bunch. Just keep pumping out 1.2 million a month.

Funny but true, especially considering how they perceive themselves.

[auburn35]

Would like to see more info and a list of the deactivated cards made public, but this counterfeit detection sounds like a great addition.

https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxPFFFeHh...a3fjKQzWa1iRkp

Full interview is also fairly interesting.

[yoyosh]

With the signed 86 MJs being cracked, signed, then given same grade....how we feeling about PSA these days?
https://x.com/lizaastrong/status/1810051272638410858

[discodanman45]

Originally Posted by yoyosh

With the signed 86 MJs being cracked, signed, then given same grade....how we feeling about PSA these days?
https://x.com/lizaastrong/status/1810051272638410858

Horrific pen choice to sign those cards. That is a gross story.

[towerymt]

Originally Posted by discodanman45

Horrific pen choice to sign those cards. That is a gross story.

That's the best part...the cards look terrible!

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That string of tweets makes little sense....

Service? PSA offers this service -- IN-THE-PRESENCE AUTHENTICATION

https://www.psacard.com/services/int...authentication

If you are a dealer, promoter, agent, or sports organization and would like more information on the PSA/DNA signed In-The-Presence Authentication programs, call (800) 325-1121 or email info@PSAcard.com.

My take: the PSA rep who came out to witness the autograph signing was possibly within the range of services offered by PSA.

From the initial tweet (@ericwhiteback, https://x.com/ericwhiteback/status/1...271338992068): "...had Jordan sign the cards, and then immediately returned the cards to PSA for grading."

Returning the cards to PSA does not define the grading service level or anything about whether or not PSA offered a service not offered publicly.

If the PSA labels were returned to PSA, they could certainly reuse the same cert number after the cards were graded again.

Couldn't find here why new cert numbers have to be issued
https://www.psacard.com/termsandconditions
https://www.psacard.com/financialguarantee

Surprised they are stirring up anything given their entire business seems to depend on PSA grading their polished PSA-9s.

https://x.com/surgieboi/status/1688971886997213196

[inaka]

Originally Posted by yoyosh

With the signed 86 MJs being cracked, signed, then given same grade....how we feeling about PSA these days?
https://x.com/lizaastrong/status/1810051272638410858

How on Earth did they keep the same cert numbers?

If they were originally PSA graded, and now needed PSA/DNA, they would all need new cert numbers at the very least. Keeping the same cert numbers after cracking and adding an auto makes no sense whatsoever.

[ThoseBackPages]

PSA is my main buying choice, all things being equal

[yoyosh]

Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

PSA is my main buying choice, all things being equal

Same, but that’s not the question I asked amigo

[inaka]

Originally Posted by yoyosh

With the signed 86 MJs being cracked, signed, then given same grade....how we feeling about PSA these days?
https://x.com/lizaastrong/status/1810051272638410858

This one seriously looked trimmed to me:



Top-left corner looks greater than 90°, left/right OC, and the bottom right edge is not a parallel cut and looks messed up. Even looks short in the holder compared to the others.

Just sayin.

[MFaulkCollector]

I think people are getting carried away here....... the question isn't .. .is PSA near perfect or did Nat revolutionize an already superior brand............ the question is... is PSA better since Nat took over.

The easy answer to this is yes. PSA was bleeding a huge backlog before Nat took over and Covid exponentially made that worse. Although the fix was painful, he actually made the decision to halt incoming submissions and fix it through hiring/expanding/etc.

It's pretty evident that customer service is worse, but PSA's market share is higher now than when Nat took over....... so from a business standpoint, why spend money where it isn't really needed? This is a business after all, I think people fail to realize that.

Price points are higher than the Joe Orlando PSA... but card prices are also significantly higher and general inflation is higher. I am paying 2x now for some items at the grocery store than I did in 2019.......... PSA has got gaming down to 14 and sports have been as low as 16....... that's about 2x the 2018-19 window if I'm remembering correctly and the market supports those prices. Again, this is a business and PSA should be charging a price where they get the influx of cards needed to meet their internal goals based on workforce capacity. In no way should they be trying to give us a "deal" and overwork their staff. If they have the workload to do a million cards a month and 14-19 per on bulk is giving them 1 million.... you best bet your rear end they should NOT be lowering it. Doing so would be indicative of a poorly run business.

The trimming, special treatment, general gripes, etc.... That was there with previous ownership, it will be there with Nat, it will be there when he is gone........... it's unavoidable.

I've submitted cards for grading since 2014........ I would say PSA is better off today than it was for the majority of the time prior. Mid 2017 onward presented PSA with a lot of issues as the industry started to grow and they couldn't solve the issues. On a much larger scale Nat has solved a lof of issues operationally. For that alone PSA is better off

[MJGOAT23]

Originally Posted by inaka

This one seriously looked trimmed to me:



Top-left corner looks greater than 90°, left/right OC, and the bottom right edge is not a parallel cut and looks messed up. Even looks short in the holder compared to the others.

Just sayin.

I've owned many MJ RC's and a lot have that upper left blip. It's not specific to this card.

[yoyosh]

With the announcement of PSA partnering w Backyard, just bumping this thread…