2024 Dodgers Official Thread - Page 5

DMACcollector · 12-09-2023, 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blue Crew

A lot of the money will be deferred, which will allow them to sign FA pitching and our farm system is so deep, they may trade for top shelf pitching...

I agree the money is crazy, the Dodgers have room for pitching...

BC

Yeah, I just read about the deferred salary, which it says was his idea so we could remain competitive in FA, but the deal still makes me uncomfortable.

al3xmac10 · 12-09-2023, 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blue Crew

A lot of the money will be deferred, which will allow them to sign FA pitching and our farm system is so deep, they may trade for top shelf pitching...

I agree the money is crazy, the Dodgers have room for pitching...

BC

Yes. And with his worldwide popularity and marketability, the Dodgers will earn more than the $70M/year they are paying Shohei - Shohei will pay for his own contract, and maybe for Yoshinobu Yamamoto's contract too.

**From ESPN:

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/...year-700m-deal

The deal does not include any opt-outs, a source told ESPN. Another source said "the majority" of Ohtani's salary will be deferred in order to mitigate what the Dodgers are charged toward their competitive balance tax payroll on a yearly basis, giving them more freedom to add to their payroll over the life of Ohtani's contract. The deferrals, according to the source, were Ohtani's idea.

"This is a unique, historic contract for a unique, historic player," Nez Balelo, Ohtani's agent at CAA, said in a statement, adding: "Shohei is thrilled to be a part of the Dodgers organization. He is excited to begin this partnership, and he structured his contract to reflect a true commitment from both sides to long-term success."

jdandns · 12-09-2023, 08:03 PM

Wow, my favorite team has fairly quickly gone from almost never getting the big free agents to regularly landing players from the highest echelon.

Sure, it'll be $100 parking, $20 hot dogs, and $30 beers at Dodger Stadium, but that's OK. Dodgers are good about letting you bring food in when you go, and if not, most of us have pretty nice TVs by now.

Exciting times!

dani0100 · 12-09-2023, 08:17 PM

Anyone remember last year when one of the clown players on the Angels scoffed that the Dodgers have a vegan as their leadoff hitter (referring to Mookie Betts) and the Angels have Babe Ruth.

Now I guess the Dodgers have a vegan and Babe Ruth.

ucLAkers · 12-10-2023, 12:27 AM

+12000 Ohtani South Korea opening day HR…

Dodgerfan74 · 12-10-2023, 01:07 AM

Jeff Passan
I’m goin to explain why Shohei Ohtani's $700 million contract with the Los Angeles Dodgers will not equal $700 million in terms of MLB accounting or the present-day value of the deal.
When money in a contract is deferred, the competitive-balance tax number
- the luxury tax — is discounted. With a source saying a "majority" of Ohtani's contract is deferred, the discount could be significant. Typically, a CBT number is the average annual value of a deal — in this case $70 million. But depending on the size and length of the deferrals, Ohtani's CBT number is likelier to wind up in the $40-50 million-a-year range, an enormous benefit for the Dodgers.
The deferrals also affect the net present value of the deal. There's a rule

al3xmac10 · 12-10-2023, 01:48 AM

Sports Illustrated: Dodgers' Decade-Long Pursuit of Shohei Ohtani Finally Comes Through

https://www.si.com/mlb/2023/12/09/do...-comes-through

Ferg1945 · 12-10-2023, 02:37 AM

His career numbers in interleague games.... he'll be playing these teams WAY more often starting in 2024.

16 Home Runs in 126 games. .848 OPS

He's played in a bunch of meaningless games the last 6 years. He's only gonna hit 20 HRs next year. Dodgers fans will be looking to trade him by mid 2025

BigL7370 · 12-10-2023, 03:33 AM

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Originally Posted by dani0100

Anyone remember last year when one of the clown players on the Angels scoffed that the Dodgers have a vegan as their leadoff hitter (referring to Mookie Betts) and the Angels have Babe Ruth.

Now I guess the Dodgers have a vegan and Babe Ruth.

It looks like it was from Fax Sports - fake quote.

https://clutchpoints.com/angels-news...s-mookie-betts

DMACcollector · 12-11-2023, 11:42 AM

https://www.mlb.com/news/dodgers-yan..._article-share

Damn, I really liked Vivas. I was really hoping he wouldn’t be part of this deal. Sweeney won’t amount to anything.

Dodgerfan74 · 12-11-2023, 12:25 PM

Dodgers probably include Sweeney in a trade. Dodgers still need pitching and an outfielder. Lux and Rojas in the infield.

atk825 · 12-11-2023, 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ferg1945

His career numbers in interleague games.... he'll be playing these teams WAY more often starting in 2024.

16 Home Runs in 126 games. .848 OPS

He's played in a bunch of meaningless games the last 6 years. He's only gonna hit 20 HRs next year. Dodgers fans will be looking to trade him by mid 2025

The copium is real

glassofwater · 12-11-2023, 05:49 PM

I just heard Costco has tickets for 99 comes with. A 30 dollar voucher for food. Anyone have any luck finding any post ohtani signing?

DMACcollector · 12-11-2023, 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DMACcollector

Yeah, I just read about the deferred salary, which it says was his idea so we could remain competitive in FA, but the deal still makes me uncomfortable.

Now I'm more than comfortable.

atk825 · 12-12-2023, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by DMACcollector

Now I'm more than comfortable.

I have long wondered how much a team like the Dodgers could just ignore whatever penalties come from the tax...losing draft picks, paying overage penalties, etc and still field a good team and have a strong farm system. They have picked pretty late in the draft for a long time now and still seem to be able to find enough talent.

Dodgerfan74 · 12-12-2023, 07:51 PM

Question Is Walker Buehler going to start the season in the rotation or on DL?
He had his surgery in September 2022. How long does it take to recover typically?
It’s crazy how the Dodgers rotation has imploded. One suspended Sex offender whom the Dodgers still paid and lost a part of their starting rotation. One Domestic Violence offender who obviously was affected by what he was doing. Kershaw now unable to pitch until midseason and he’s a free agent. May and Gonsolin injured. Buehler with TJ surgery.
What is up with the pitching coach/trainer

atk825 · 12-12-2023, 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dodgerfan74

Question Is Walker Buehler going to start the season in the rotation or on DL?
He had his surgery in September 2022. How long does it take to recover typically?
It’s crazy how the Dodgers rotation has imploded. One suspended Sex offender whom the Dodgers still paid and lost a part of their starting rotation. One Domestic Violence offender who obviously was affected by what he was doing. Kershaw now unable to pitch until midseason and he’s a free agent. May and Gonsolin injured. Buehler with TJ surgery.
What is up with the pitching coach/trainer

Buehler should be ready barring a set back. He was trying to ramp up for September/October but shut down when I think they realized he wouldn't get there. Pitching is a question mark but if they say sign Yamamoto and then move Busch and some prospects for Burnes or Glasnow, it starts looking pretty strong.

LVDan · 12-12-2023, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by atk825

Buehler should be ready barring a set back. He was trying to ramp up for September/October but shut down when I think they realized he wouldn't get there. Pitching is a question mark but if they say sign Yamamoto and then move Busch and some prospects for Burnes or Glasnow, it starts looking pretty strong.

Glasnow please

I also have quite a bit of faith in their young pitchers going forward. Miller looks to have #1 potential, Pepiot was spectacular the last 6 weeks or so and then there’s Sheehan, Stone, Grove and a few others. If they add 2 strong guys through FA/ trades I think they will be in a great position. If not, they could still win the division by 10-15 games with a middling rotation.

ucLAkers · 12-13-2023, 02:17 AM

Lets not forget Dustin May is only healthy during hunting season……

al3xmac10 · 12-13-2023, 02:39 AM

Ippei is now following Arozarena and Glasnow...

dodgerfanjohn · 12-13-2023, 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by al3xmac10

Ippei is now following Arozarena and Glasnow...

Yeah that’s the heavy rumor.

We have a lot of strong prospects basically blocked. Time we made use of them. Getting a strong glove and decent bat in Arozarena plugs an outfield hole and Glassnow…I’m not sure. Isn’t he perpetually injured?

Archangel1775 · 12-13-2023, 12:34 PM

I gotta get my Glasnow Autos to PSA stat. Arozarena would be just a ridiculous add-on. The man alone has a huge fan base, like an entire country and performs on another level under the lights.

Dodgerfan74 · 12-13-2023, 02:15 PM

I’m hearing Glasnow & Margot
Hate to lose Pepiot

Dodgerfan74 · 12-14-2023, 08:43 PM

Dodgers trading Pepiot & LeDuca for Glasnow and Margot

Lonewolf · 12-14-2023, 09:13 PM

I don't like the Glasnow (glass arm) trade at all. We should not be looking to dump young arms like Pepiot, but building around them.

12-09-2023, 08:03 PM	#103
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12-10-2023, 12:27 AM	#105
ucLAkers Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: CaliZona Posts: 8,606 mintrobmint Totally Sucks	+12000 Ohtani South Korea opening day HR… __________________ If you collect Vee & Friends you need medical assistance as theres a chance you have Blow Pop syndrom-18

12-10-2023, 01:07 AM	#106
Dodgerfan74 Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 3,382	Jeff Passan I’m goin to explain why Shohei Ohtani's $700 million contract with the Los Angeles Dodgers will not equal $700 million in terms of MLB accounting or the present-day value of the deal. When money in a contract is deferred, the competitive-balance tax number - the luxury tax — is discounted. With a source saying a "majority" of Ohtani's contract is deferred, the discount could be significant. Typically, a CBT number is the average annual value of a deal — in this case $70 million. But depending on the size and length of the deferrals, Ohtani's CBT number is likelier to wind up in the $40-50 million-a-year range, an enormous benefit for the Dodgers. The deferrals also affect the net present value of the deal. There's a rule __________________ All I Know is I'm not Home Yet This is not Where I belong

12-10-2023, 01:48 AM	#107
al3xmac10 Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 13,428 al3xmac10	Sports Illustrated: Dodgers' Decade-Long Pursuit of Shohei Ohtani Finally Comes Through https://www.si.com/mlb/2023/12/09/do...-comes-through __________________ Instagram: al3xmac10 Always looking for rare Shohei Ohtani 2018 autos & [Ichiro 2016 Topps Now #154 Inscription Auto /10]

12-11-2023, 11:42 AM	#110
DMACcollector Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 4,492	https://www.mlb.com/news/dodgers-yan..._article-share Damn, I really liked Vivas. I was really hoping he wouldn’t be part of this deal. Sweeney won’t amount to anything. __________________ __________________________________________ Flickr link: https://www.flickr.com/photos/187992135@N04/albums/

12-09-2023, 08:17 PM	#104
dani0100 Member Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: Fargo, ND Posts: 681	Anyone remember last year when one of the clown players on the Angels scoffed that the Dodgers have a vegan as their leadoff hitter (referring to Mookie Betts) and the Angels have Babe Ruth. Now I guess the Dodgers have a vegan and Babe Ruth.

12-10-2023, 02:37 AM	#108
Ferg1945 Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Midwest Posts: 14,720	His career numbers in interleague games.... he'll be playing these teams WAY more often starting in 2024. 16 Home Runs in 126 games. .848 OPS He's played in a bunch of meaningless games the last 6 years. He's only gonna hit 20 HRs next year. Dodgers fans will be looking to trade him by mid 2025

12-11-2023, 12:25 PM	#111
Dodgerfan74 Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 3,382	Dodgers probably include Sweeney in a trade. Dodgers still need pitching and an outfielder. Lux and Rojas in the infield. __________________ All I Know is I'm not Home Yet This is not Where I belong

12-11-2023, 05:49 PM	#113
glassofwater Member Join Date: Feb 2019 Posts: 3,665	I just heard Costco has tickets for 99 comes with. A 30 dollar voucher for food. Anyone have any luck finding any post ohtani signing?

12-12-2023, 07:51 PM	#116
Dodgerfan74 Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 3,382	Question Is Walker Buehler going to start the season in the rotation or on DL? He had his surgery in September 2022. How long does it take to recover typically? It’s crazy how the Dodgers rotation has imploded. One suspended Sex offender whom the Dodgers still paid and lost a part of their starting rotation. One Domestic Violence offender who obviously was affected by what he was doing. Kershaw now unable to pitch until midseason and he’s a free agent. May and Gonsolin injured. Buehler with TJ surgery. What is up with the pitching coach/trainer __________________ All I Know is I'm not Home Yet This is not Where I belong

12-13-2023, 02:17 AM	#119
ucLAkers Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: CaliZona Posts: 8,606 mintrobmint Totally Sucks	Lets not forget Dustin May is only healthy during hunting season…… __________________ If you collect Vee & Friends you need medical assistance as theres a chance you have Blow Pop syndrom-18

12-13-2023, 02:39 AM	#120
al3xmac10 Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 13,428 al3xmac10	Ippei is now following Arozarena and Glasnow... __________________ Instagram: al3xmac10 Always looking for rare Shohei Ohtani 2018 autos & [Ichiro 2016 Topps Now #154 Inscription Auto /10]

12-13-2023, 12:34 PM	#122
Archangel1775 Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Cali baby! Posts: 21,906	I gotta get my Glasnow Autos to PSA stat. Arozarena would be just a ridiculous add-on. The man alone has a huge fan base, like an entire country and performs on another level under the lights. __________________ *There are the intangibles that set someone apart from the pack.So the blur isn't your inability to see his greatness, it's merely the inability to measure it.*

12-13-2023, 02:15 PM	#123
Dodgerfan74 Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 3,382	I’m hearing Glasnow & Margot Hate to lose Pepiot __________________ All I Know is I'm not Home Yet This is not Where I belong

12-14-2023, 08:43 PM	#124
Dodgerfan74 Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 3,382	Dodgers trading Pepiot & LeDuca for Glasnow and Margot __________________ All I Know is I'm not Home Yet This is not Where I belong

12-14-2023, 09:13 PM	#125
Lonewolf Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: California Posts: 4,460	I don't like the Glasnow (glass arm) trade at all. We should not be looking to dump young arms like Pepiot, but building around them.