2024 Cincinnati Reds - Page 5

DioBrando · 09-23-2024, 04:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Rooftop

Bell gone

About time, shouldn't have been hired in the first place. Now clean house in the front office.

cruiserdaddy7 · 09-23-2024, 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by DioBrando

About time, shouldn't have been hired in the first place. Now clean house in the front office.

Odd with the budget constraints they extended him through 2026 and then fired him 1 year into it. McClain out all year, Marte out 80 games, CES only played 29 games. At one point entire rotation was on DL. Jeimer was a terrible signing. Montas was terrible as well. Nobody can win games like that. People may not like Bell but the front office is a big problem.

OhioLawyerF5 · 09-23-2024, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by cruiserdaddy7

Odd with the budget constraints they extended him through 2026 and then fired him 1 year into it. McClain out all year, Marte out 80 games, CES only played 29 games. At one point entire rotation was on DL. Jeimer was a terrible signing. Montas was terrible as well. Nobody can win games like that. People may not like Bell but the front office is a big problem.

Both Bell and the front office are big problems. They are apparently trying to take care of one of them. Which is better than doing nothing about either of them. This was a good move no matter how you slice it. And the budget contraints are overblown by small market teams. If they will eat Moustakas' contract, and Shogo's contract, etc..., they can eat Bell's meager contract.

DioBrando · 09-23-2024, 08:17 AM

And there is already chatter about Barry Larkin for the next manager....probably the dumbest moves they could make so it wouldn't shock me if they did just that.

cruiserdaddy7 · 09-23-2024, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by DioBrando

And there is already chatter about Barry Larkin for the next manager....probably the dumbest moves they could make so it wouldn't shock me if they did just that.

I read Skip Schumaker, David Ross and Eduardo Perez. Perez would be my last choice since they need to get away from the bloodline managerial choices.

DioBrando · 09-23-2024, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by cruiserdaddy7

I read Skip Schumaker, David Ross and Eduardo Perez. Perez would be my last choice since they need to get away from the bloodline managerial choices.

Lmao at bloodline...now I'm picturing Roman Reigns managing the Reds.. agreed 100% though. The big problem with the Reds is ownership and front office. Unfortunately that won't change. Cincinnati is just cursed with mediocre at best teams it seems

rittdk01 · 09-23-2024, 01:08 PM

Why not finish the last 5 or 6 games and then fire him? I went to the three game series with Atlanta last week and had a great time. Love the ballpark and the fans are always fun. Hopefully they bounce back and get some pitching to go with that young core.

cruiserdaddy7 · 09-23-2024, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by rittdk01

Why not finish the last 5 or 6 games and then fire him? I went to the three game series with Atlanta last week and had a great time. Love the ballpark and the fans are always fun. Hopefully they bounce back and get some pitching to go with that young core.

They need hitting more than pitching at this point. Their lineup is a disgrace.

SliderCutter14 · 09-23-2024, 09:09 PM

Going by this recent article, seems like this former Reds pitcher had been sloppy in hiding his pitch grip...
"The righty only tossed 2 2/3 innings Sunday afternoon and let up seven earned runs. If Montas can't correct his pitch-tipping tendencies for the postseason, the Brew Crew may be in trouble."

I'm wondering if the pitching issues in the Reds is a mix of pitching coaching before batting. In batting their DH/cleanup hitter is supposed to brief the coach at their "opinions of the opposing pitcher" so if neither is talking everything falls apart.

Ferg1945 · 10-03-2024, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DioBrando

And there is already chatter about Barry Larkin for the next manager....probably the dumbest moves they could make so it wouldn't shock me if they did just that.

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Originally Posted by cruiserdaddy7

I read Skip Schumaker, David Ross and Eduardo Perez. Perez would be my last choice since they need to get away from the bloodline managerial choices.

Terry Francona

cruiserdaddy7 · 10-03-2024, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Ferg1945

Terry Francona

That's a big get for the Reds. I hope he holds the front office accountable going forward.

redlegs · 10-03-2024, 10:46 PM

heck yeah!!!!! Now go get Brenton Doyle and Brent Rooker!

This is crazy! How do you go from David Bell to Francona??!!

PejaD · 10-03-2024, 10:58 PM

Didn't Francona have a number of health issues? On paper it sounds good, but I could see this turning out similar to when the Sox hired the elderly La Russa

Chris Lyle · 10-04-2024, 05:00 AM

As a Guards fan, I'm hoping this means Francona is well enough physically for taking this on! Big get here if Tito can get the front office to buy in like he did in Cleveland. I doubt he came back for a rebuild or something of nature. He is not a young guy type coach he is going to want them to bring in established guys.

DioBrando · 10-04-2024, 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Ferg1945

Terry Francona

Typical reds....should have kept bell if that's who they decided to go with...

OhioLawyerF5 · 10-04-2024, 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by DioBrando

Typical reds....should have kept bell if that's who they decided to go with...

Seriously?

I can't see any way in the world any Reds fan isn't happy with this hire.

Francona >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Bell

He is a proven winner.

DioBrando · 10-04-2024, 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by OhioLawyerF5

Seriously?

I can't see any way in the world any Reds fan isn't happy with this hire.

Francona >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Bell

He is a proven winner.

He might have been a good choice for a more veteran focused team. I expect he gets replaced or leaves within 2 years

mg444 · 10-04-2024, 08:34 AM

I'm a huge Reds fan and I'm good with this signing. However, I hope he's healthy because the current Reds roster is going to stress him out. Lots of very young guys.

Raleigh504 · 10-04-2024, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Lyle

As a Guards fan, I'm hoping this means Francona is well enough physically for taking this on! Big get here if Tito can get the front office to buy in like he did in Cleveland. I doubt he came back for a rebuild or something of nature. He is not a young guy type coach he is going to want them to bring in established guys.

That was the only thing I didn't like about Tito was he had preferences to older vets or established guys (not saying better, but just guys who have been in the league vs youth). He was always quick to pull young guys in my opinion and mess around too much with their playing time.

09-23-2024, 08:17 AM	#104
DioBrando Member Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: Cincinnati Posts: 2,562	And there is already chatter about Barry Larkin for the next manager....probably the dumbest moves they could make so it wouldn't shock me if they did just that. __________________ 1312 no gods, no masters

10-03-2024, 10:46 PM	#112
redlegs Member Join Date: Dec 2021 Posts: 180	heck yeah!!!!! Now go get Brenton Doyle and Brent Rooker! This is crazy! How do you go from David Bell to Francona??!! Last edited by redlegs; 10-03-2024 at 10:57 PM.

10-04-2024, 05:00 AM	#114
Chris Lyle Member Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: OHIO Posts: 10,002 teddys1son cmlyle07	As a Guards fan, I'm hoping this means Francona is well enough physically for taking this on! Big get here if Tito can get the front office to buy in like he did in Cleveland. I doubt he came back for a rebuild or something of nature. He is not a young guy type coach he is going to want them to bring in established guys. __________________ Always looking for Guardians/Indians for the PC. Buckeyes and Buccaneers are PC also

09-23-2024, 01:08 PM	#107
rittdk01 Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Indiana Posts: 2,416	Why not finish the last 5 or 6 games and then fire him? I went to the three game series with Atlanta last week and had a great time. Love the ballpark and the fans are always fun. Hopefully they bounce back and get some pitching to go with that young core.

09-23-2024, 09:09 PM	#109
SliderCutter14 Member Join Date: Aug 2024 Posts: 73	Going by this recent article, seems like this former Reds pitcher had been sloppy in hiding his pitch grip... "The righty only tossed 2 2/3 innings Sunday afternoon and let up seven earned runs. If Montas can't correct his pitch-tipping tendencies for the postseason, the Brew Crew may be in trouble." I'm wondering if the pitching issues in the Reds is a mix of pitching coaching before batting. In batting their DH/cleanup hitter is supposed to brief the coach at their "opinions of the opposing pitcher" so if neither is talking everything falls apart.

10-03-2024, 10:58 PM	#113
PejaD Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 4,064	Didn't Francona have a number of health issues? On paper it sounds good, but I could see this turning out similar to when the Sox hired the elderly La Russa

10-04-2024, 08:34 AM	#118
mg444 Member Join Date: Sep 2024 Location: Ohio Posts: 146	I'm a huge Reds fan and I'm good with this signing. However, I hope he's healthy because the current Reds roster is going to stress him out. Lots of very young guys.