✹The PERENNIAL Shohei Ohtani Thread✹

[ThoseBackPages]

Originally Posted by deemsterz33

Can't argue with that. Image aside, the relative rarity + batting photo on the BC is intruiging in regards to its potential. The flagship makes all other ships rise.

absolutely agree!

the US175 is its own animal. just look at what Trouts BSterling Rookie Card goes for vs US175. then add in there are more US175 PSA 10 in existence than ALL versions of the 2011 Bowman Sterling Mike Trout raw made

[Rage]

Almost forgot Sho bomb #29!

[Baseball4life90]

Originally Posted by zworykin

To be fair, yes, the 2022 Baller product was head and shoulders (and torso and at LEAST upper legs) above the previous ones. But between the stain of the previous sets, the silly logo, the adult toy-shaped die-cut cards, and the absolutely absurd way he went about handling his special "friends and family" parallels... I can't even bring myself to be a singles buyer, even for the guys I PC. It just isn't a product for me.

Sterling, on the other hand - also generally not a product for me because of the pricing, but at least I can appreciate the cards.

I enjoyed the OG sterling a lot more, even with the smaller relics, and not on-card there were some gorgeous cards.

I opened 3 boxes of BB this year, and I did enjoy it, maybe biased since I pulled the Ohtani 🤣

Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

oh man, i forgot about those purples

i wonder how many people he screwed on twitter before he got banned

I saw those, but that just seemed like such a moronic idea!

Originally Posted by Rage

Thank you all for keeping prices on Ben Baller Ohtani cards nice and low for me
I could care less about Ben but the cards themselves are nice when they are rare refractors of Shohei

collect what you like and have fun

Hahahah, those are low?? The Ohtani autos are quite expensive. Just saw that a auto /25 BGS 9 sold for more than PSA 10 /25 sold a few weeks back. Meaning, they're going up quite a bit

[Trueblue]

We're officially in a euphoria buying phase. Insane.

[The_Reverend]

Originally Posted by Trueblue

We're officially in a euphoria buying phase. Insane.

The lowest licensed Ohtani PSA 10 has crossed over $100 per I think. People kept waiting to get in. Hurry up because his prices are not going t9 cool anytime soon. 50/100/200/10 is very possible

[Bcr]

Originally Posted by Rage

Thank you all for keeping prices on Ben Baller Ohtani cards nice and low for me
I could care less about Ben but the cards themselves are nice when they are rare refractors of Shohei

collect what you like and have fun

One mans trash is another mans treasure.

[ThoseBackPages]

i love it!

[Vdm2018]

RAW 2022 Topps Gilded Shohei Ohtani rose red auto numbered to 25 was sold for $2750 on eBay to a buyer with 2 feedbacks. Not sure if this is legit or not.

[sandyfrank]

Something about Ohtani makes me think if he has another solid HR month in July he is going to be going hard after Judge's HR record. You know he wants this so bad and look out if he starts getting in reach of it. He just has that drive of wanting be the greatest of all time, he was just dripping of that inner drive in the WBC vs Trout, he rises up to the challenge and the bigger the stage the more locked in he gets. He is a great starting pitcher but can you imagine how intimidating & dominant he could be as a full time closer? Like others have said on this thread, what can this man not do? This could be something to see later in his career if he wants to cut down on his innings pitched.

[BabaORiley]

This is fun...

ESPN Angels team page:
https://www.espn.com/mlb/team/_/name...angeles-angels

Just scroll down and toggle between Offense and Pitching team leaders on that page.

I-N-S-A-N-E.

SPOILER:
All Sho.
Batting Team Leader: BA, HR, RBI
Pitching Team Leader: ERA, W, K

Never imagined something like that was possible.

[Absknicks]

Originally Posted by sandyfrank

Something about Ohtani makes me think if he has another solid HR month in July he is going to be going hard after Judge's HR record. You know he wants this so bad and look out if he starts getting in reach of it. He just has that drive of wanting be the greatest of all time, he was just dripping of that inner drive in the WBC vs Trout, he rises up to the challenge and the bigger the stage the more locked in he gets. He is a great starting pitcher but can you imagine how intimidating & dominant he could be as a full time closer? Like others have said on this thread, what can this man not do? This could be something to see later in his career if he wants to cut down on his innings pitched.

He's not as good of a hitter as Judge. Doesn't barrel the ball near the same rate or have the same power. So unless he has a ton of luck, not gonna happen

[zworykin]

Originally Posted by Absknicks

He's not as good of a hitter as Judge. Doesn't barrel the ball near the same rate or have the same power. So unless he has a ton of luck, not gonna happen

He's on pace for about 56.6. If he'd hit just three more at this point, he'd be on pace for 63. I'd say he doesn't need a ton of luck to make it happen. I also wouldn't be betting on it to happen, but it's entirely plausible.

[Neal]

Angels better do something


He's had it with the organization

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[NYBBFAN]

Originally Posted by Absknicks

He's not as good of a hitter as Judge. Doesn't barrel the ball near the same rate or have the same power. So unless he has a ton of luck, not gonna happen

If you compensate for age and compare Judge’s 2021 to Ohtani this year, Ohtani compares very well.

https://stathead.com/baseball/player...m_id=ohtansh01

[hammertime]

Originally Posted by Neal

Angels better do something


He's had it with the organization

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Yeah the problem is at this point, even if they make some drastic moves do you believe they're committed long-term and not just trying to get him to re-sign?

[JRX]

Originally Posted by Absknicks

He's not as good of a hitter as Judge. Doesn't barrel the ball near the same rate or have the same power. So unless he has a ton of luck, not gonna happen

They could always juice the balls again.

[JRX]

Originally Posted by Neal

Angels better do something


He's had it with the organization

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It doesn't make sense for him to stay with Angels if he wants to win. They've shown over 20 years that they can't develop a talent pipeline. Best landing spot is probably the Dodgers followed by maybe Giants. If not for the Mets, Padres disaster would be biggest story.

[spuds1961]

Originally Posted by JRX

They could always juice the balls again.

Based on some distances I have seen this year they already have, when Josh Donaldson hits a ball 472 feet in yesterday’s game it does make one wonder.

[spuds1961]

Originally Posted by JRX

It doesn't make sense for him to stay with Angels if he wants to win. They've shown over 20 years that they can't develop a talent pipeline. Best landing spot is probably the Dodgers followed by maybe Giants. If not for the Mets, Padres disaster would be biggest story.

The problem with Ohtani leaving the Angels for a winning organization is it puts him in a no win situation. If he leaves the Angels and they win the World Series like the National.’s did when Harper left they will say he was bad for team chemistry. If he goes to a high leverage contender for the World Series and they fail to make it people will say he didn’t help enough.

If I were Ohtani I would stay with the Angels as there really is no benefit in leaving, they are getting better and they will win eventually.

[KhalDrogo]

Originally Posted by spuds1961

The problem with Ohtani leaving the Angels for a winning organization is it puts him in a no win situation. If he leaves the Angels and they win the World Series like the National.’s did when Harper left they will say he was bad for team chemistry. If he goes to a high leverage contender for the World Series and they fail to make it people will say he didn’t help enough.

If I were Ohtani I would stay with the Angels as there really is no benefit in leaving, they are getting better and they will win eventually.

The Angels have absolutely zero chance of winning a World Series without Shohei.

[BoSoxFan1999]

Originally Posted by spuds1961

The problem with Ohtani leaving the Angels for a winning organization is it puts him in a no win situation. If he leaves the Angels and they win the World Series like the National.’s did when Harper left they will say he was bad for team chemistry. If he goes to a high leverage contender for the World Series and they fail to make it people will say he didn’t help enough.

If I were Ohtani I would stay with the Angels as there really is no benefit in leaving, they are getting better and they will win eventually.

IF I were Ohtani and decided to re-up with the Angels, I'd have his agent include an opt-out clause after year 3 of the contract where if the Angels do not make the playoffs during those 3 seasons, he can opt out and then be open to sign with another team. If the Angels don't want to include that? They can be known as the org that let Babe Ruth 2.0 walk out the door for nothing.

[spuds1961]

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

The Angels have absolutely zero chance of winning a World Series without Shohei.

That’s what they said about the National’s and Harper. I agree with your sentiment but it could happen.

[spuds1961]

Originally Posted by BoSoxFan1999

IF I were Ohtani and decided to re-up with the Angels, I'd have his agent include an opt-out clause after year 3 of the contract where if the Angels do not make the playoffs during those 3 seasons, he can opt out and then be open to sign with another team. If the Angels don't want to include that? They can be known as the org that let Babe Ruth 2.0 walk out the door for nothing.

Makes sense for both the organization and Ohtani.,

[Hollywood42]

I posted a day or two ago he was on pace to at least threaten. He is a little behind the pace for 62, but he is right in step with where Judge (29) was at through 81 games last year

And say what you want, the dude is at 29 homers at the midway point this season. Maybe he doesn't have the raw power Judge has, maybe he does. Who cares, he certainly is proving he has enough to at least threaten

Originally Posted by Absknicks

He's not as good of a hitter as Judge. Doesn't barrel the ball near the same rate or have the same power. So unless he has a ton of luck, not gonna happen

[JRX]

Originally Posted by Hollywood42

I posted a day or two ago he was on pace to at least threaten. He is a little behind the pace for 62, but he is right in step with where Judge (29) was at through 81 games last year

And say what you want, the dude is at 29 homers at the midway point this season. Maybe he doesn't have the raw power Judge has, maybe he does. Who cares, he certainly is proving he has enough to at least threaten

Maris didn't have the raw power of Ruth.