**The Perennial JUAN SOTO Thread!**

[Nodnarb]

I got a /76 mlb 2021 topps series 1 recently

[rngrdanny22]

Originally Posted by VandyCards

Not a good evening for Mr. Young.


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The aforementioned LF just made up for it with a Grand Slam.

[kyle1707]

His obp last year 50 games and first 10 games this year is around .480

That insanity

[Some Guy]

This guy any good?




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[Rage]

Just another 2 hit night for Juanny

[towerymt]

Can never have too many of these with only 137 to go around.

[REGGIE206]

Originally Posted by towerymt

Can never have too many of these with only 137 to go around.

This is great!

[tedwilliamsfan]

Originally Posted by towerymt

Can never have too many of these with only 137 to go around.

Awesome card! I think the Bowman Big League Breakthrough RC's are severely underrated. That card is right at the top of my Soto Want list. I picked up the Acuna /145 a while ago, but I still need a Juan. Again, great card!

[JoeAdam]

Have taken a pause from cards as I wait for everything to come back from PSA, when did HMT55’s drop down to the mid 400 range? Feels like they should be going up based on his performance.

[eye4talent]

Originally Posted by JoeAdam

Have taken a pause from cards as I wait for everything to come back from PSA, when did HMT55’s drop down to the mid 400 range? Feels like they should be going up based on his performance.

The buying mentality changes from pre-Opening Day to once that first official pitch is thrown.

And so with Washington’s start to the season being delayed a few days, and with Acuna bursting out of the gate, the Soto enthusiasm is blunted a little. And when you look at his stats and see 2 HR and 7 RBI, the reactionary buyers don’t have much to go on—consider that some of the people who would normally contribute to a Soto surge are likely some of the same people scrambling to buy Yermin Mercedes and Akil Badoo autos, or who have shifted their fleeting loyalties to Acuna for the time being.

It’s all very temporary, as it’s so early in the season.






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[eye4talent]

Originally Posted by towerymt

Can never have too many of these with only 137 to go around.

I mildly regret selling my trio of Soto/Acuna/Gleyber a while back—I think to you, if I remember correctly.


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[Cards and 401K]

I am hoping to sell a few HMT55's for $1,500 a copy mid next year....

[rngrdanny22]

Originally Posted by Cards and 401K

I am hoping to sell a few HMT55's for $1,500 a copy mid next year....

Good lord. I could retire if that happened.

[Cards and 401K]

That would need to include a top 3 MVP, 2nd Batting title this year and 2 Allstar appearances with the added pump from Gary V

[redsfaithful]

What's the strategy with the pop counts being so high? Apologies if this has been discussed.

I love Soto, but I wonder how much room any of the big cards have to run over the years. 9k PSA 10s of the Chrome, 16k of the #300. More to come from all the unopened wax.

I mean, I think they're going to go up, I do. I think Soto is going to be famous eventually even outside of baseball - that's how bullish I am.

But there's so much supply. I'm trying to get in on some of the lower pop count cards - I've noticed the 2018 '83 Chrome silver promo card has gone up lately so maybe I'm not the only one having these thoughts.

I'm collecting him overall as a PC, so I'm not just a speculator, just wondering what thoughts are. Like, if 20 years from now he's retiring and a first ballot Hall of Famer what are the cards you'd have wanted to own for under $1000 here in 2021?

I've really been thinking about pulling the trigger on one of the Acuna/Soto on-card autos that are out there. I feel like if those careers go the way they are looking right now those could eventually be $50k cards.

Should have some cool things coming in the mail soon to show the thread.

[Snakeonia]

Originally Posted by redsfaithful

What's the strategy with the pop counts being so high? Apologies if this has been discussed.

I love Soto, but I wonder how much room any of the big cards have to run over the years. 9k PSA 10s of the Chrome, 16k of the #300. More to come from all the unopened wax.

I mean, I think they're going to go up, I do. I think Soto is going to be famous eventually even outside of baseball - that's how bullish I am.

But there's so much supply. I'm trying to get in on some of the lower pop count cards - I've noticed the 2018 '83 Chrome silver promo card has gone up lately so maybe I'm not the only one having these thoughts.

I'm collecting him overall as a PC, so I'm not just a speculator, just wondering what thoughts are. Like, if 20 years from now he's retiring and a first ballot Hall of Famer what are the cards you'd have wanted to own for under $1000 here in 2021?

I've really been thinking about pulling the trigger on one of the Acuna/Soto on-card autos that are out there. I feel like if those careers go the way they are looking right now those could eventually be $50k cards.

Should have some cool things coming in the mail soon to show the thread.

Seems like a fool’s errand trying to throw that dart. Just buy all of them. And wax


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[Pixman1]

Originally Posted by redsfaithful

What's the strategy with the pop counts being so high? Apologies if this has been discussed.

I love Soto, but I wonder how much room any of the big cards have to run over the years. 9k PSA 10s of the Chrome, 16k of the #300. More to come from all the unopened wax.

I mean, I think they're going to go up, I do. I think Soto is going to be famous eventually even outside of baseball - that's how bullish I am.

But there's so much supply. I'm trying to get in on some of the lower pop count cards - I've noticed the 2018 '83 Chrome silver promo card has gone up lately so maybe I'm not the only one having these thoughts.

I'm collecting him overall as a PC, so I'm not just a speculator, just wondering what thoughts are. Like, if 20 years from now he's retiring and a first ballot Hall of Famer what are the cards you'd have wanted to own for under $1000 here in 2021?

I've really been thinking about pulling the trigger on one of the Acuna/Soto on-card autos that are out there. I feel like if those careers go the way they are looking right now those could eventually be $50k cards.

Should have some cool things coming in the mail soon to show the thread.

Different cards for different levels of investment. I don’t think is base PSA 10s will ever be crazy money but the parallels will be. The SPs and the SSPs will skyrocket along with sapphire. Autos have already gone bonkers. His autos have doubled in three months and won’t be going back down. He may reach Trout prices eventually.

[epatmythes]

PSA has graded a total of 149,290 cards from the 1989 Upper Deck baseball set. 79,759 of those (over 50%) have been Ken Griffey Jr. rookies. Even with that, the Kid has a ridiculously low Gem Rate, with only 3,917 PSA 10's in existence.

The current era king, the 2011 Topps Update Mike Trout has a PSA 10 population of 5,287. A much higher Gem Rate than the Kid, and a hefty population in comparison... it has no problem being a $4-5K card.

Now, you have the Soto's... today, sitting at PSA 10 populations of 9,111 on the Chrome Update and 16,557 on the Topps Update. On the surface, those are staggeringly high population numbers. Conversely though, the Ohtani/Acuna/Soto/Torres hype train of the 2018 season was truly the turning point in the hobby where new release wax was being busted solely to acquire cards with the intention to grade them.

No, months or years of the card sitting in a box, in pages, in a top loader, or mag, or (God forbid) a screw down. No, I wonder if I have any of these that might be gradable now that I see how much the gem's are selling for... let me dig through my closet!

These cards were straight from pack, to sleeve, to card saver... and off to grading!

Given all that... I truly believe there is still a ton of room for price growth with the Soto's in the coming months and years. The populations don't help the supply side economics... but with continued success/dominance and fans/collectors wanting these cards... price will go up.

I put there ceiling, based just on the high pop fact, at market with a PSA 9 Trout Update. That card is a pretty consistent seller around $1800.

I've been collecting Trout since day 1. At times, I thought the card would never seen $500 in a 10. Then I was amazed and couldn't believe it would ever see $1000. At some point, I probably also recall believing the absolute ceiling for that card would be $2500. Wrong, wrong, wrong, and wrong time and time again.

I'm more surprised the Soto's aren't $1K already... then I will be if they aren't pushing $1500 next year, assuming another stellar season!

[redsfaithful]

Originally Posted by Pixman1

He may reach Trout prices eventually.

I think he will yeah, just might not be raw dollar equivalent. But if there's 4x as many Sotos available as Trout (talking about the #US300 here) maybe his equivalent is 1/4th the Trout price. Not sure if that logic completely tracks, but that would put #US300 at $1250 6-8 years from now.

Originally Posted by epatmythes

PSA has graded a total of 149,290 cards from the 1989 Upper Deck baseball set. 79,759 of those (over 50%) have been Ken Griffey Jr. rookies. Even with that, the Kid has a ridiculously low Gem Rate, with only 3,917 PSA 10's in existence.

The current era king, the 2011 Topps Update Mike Trout has a PSA 10 population of 5,287. A much higher Gem Rate than the Kid, and a hefty population in comparison... it has no problem being a $4-5K card.

I like the logic here, makes a lot of sense.

[Redbandit]

Just a lil Soto spread on this rainy afternoon in Beantown


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[jhssketchcards]

Not a high dollar RC but couldn’t resist the urge to do a sketch card of Soto. I’m going to be set up at a collectors show April 24 in Sulphur La. I haven’t done sketches in a while so why not start with Juan?



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[towerymt]

Originally Posted by eye4talent

I mildly regret selling my trio of Soto/Acuna/Gleyber a while back—I think to you, if I remember correctly.

Yup But I'm still hunting for the Soto redemption card. There must be some out there, unscratched.

This is my third #/137. I believe there is an individual out there with a large stash of this card, so if I see one for a reasonable price, I grab it.

[longbomberz]

Just got this one in from COMC. Funky set but glad to add a nice parallel auto.

[Cards and 401K]

Originally Posted by longbomberz

Just got this one in from COMC. Funky set but glad to add a nice parallel auto.

Very nice Soto AUTO /25!!

[VintageTraderNC]

Picked up another PSA 10 blue. New family pic!



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