***The Official New York Yankees Thread***

[AJBU]

Imagine paying a exorbitant amount of $$ to see a game due to inflatable salaries like a 30 mil/year Stanton only to watch them go 0 fer time and time again

[JRX]

Hey they got a run tonight, that's progress!

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[JRX]

4 hits is pretty good for this lineup

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[ottobord]

I've backed Stanton because I think he's a stand up guy and he performs in the postseason but he's done nothing since Judge has been out. Time to move on even though it's next to impossible to get rid of him.

[spuds1961]

[QUOTE=AJBU;18909933]Hicks doing well at Baltimore speaks volumes. Major problems top to bottom[/QUOTE

Agreed

[Mandy1320]

Wow this Yankees team is just a tough watch. Everyone is right in saying that it shouldn't just come down to Judge coming back.

There's a very real chance that the team isn't much better with him on a night to night basis. Stanton, Rizzo, DJ, Volpe, aren't going to start magically start hitting with him in the lineup.

Not sure how this team can fix itself like it's tried to in years past. No spending room, no huge, difference-making prospects to trade/call up, the 2024 FA market is relatively weak minus Ohtani and Soto. The window is closing fast.

It's all Cashman's fault.

[ottobord]

.195 since June 4, who didn't see this coming this year, and Cashman was given a contract

[Boo]

Originally Posted by ottobord

.195 since June 4, who didn't see this coming this year, and Cashman was given a contract

Apparently the fans in this thread that thought they would be good. They had zero shot at the WS this year and only a punchers chance at the playoffs. That still might happen but if you honestly looked at the lineup at the beginning of the year and thought "that's a nice playoff team", that's on you.

[ottobord]

Originally Posted by Boo

Apparently the fans in this thread that thought they would be good. They had zero shot at the WS this year and only a punchers chance at the playoffs. That still might happen but if you honestly looked at the lineup at the beginning of the year and thought "that's a nice playoff team", that's on you.

Coming into the year counting on Hicks and Donaldson was ridiculous.

Volpe, Cabrera and DJ not hitting is really hurting.

The fact that Stanton Rizzo and Gleyber are absent is inexcusable.

I'll give our Catchers a pass but they don't help.

Now that the bullpen is coming back to Earth it has all the makings of missing the playoffs.

No real help in the farm coming. Even makes matter worse.

[Boo]

Originally Posted by ottobord

Coming into the year counting on Hicks and Donaldson was ridiculous.

Volpe, Cabrera and DJ not hitting is really hurting.

The fact that Stanton Rizzo and Gleyber are absent is inexcusable.

I'll give our Catchers a pass but they don't help.

Now that the bullpen is coming back to Earth it has all the makings of missing the playoffs.

No real help in the farm coming. Even makes matter worse.

DJ hasn't been the same for a few years, it's not coming back. The Yankees haven't had a catcher that can actually hit in forever. Stanton sucks, my most hated player on the Yankees and the one with the worst contract ever.

[spuds1961]

Originally Posted by Boo

Apparently the fans in this thread that thought they would be good. They had zero shot at the WS this year and only a punchers chance at the playoffs. That still might happen but if you honestly looked at the lineup at the beginning of the year and thought "that's a nice playoff team", that's on you.

No you take away the injuries and they had a lineup that was playoff ready, probably not a World Series threat but built for the usual 90 to 100 wins. Up until the sweep in Boston they were still 9 games over .500 with the last 4 losses being by 1 run. You throw Judge and Bader back in the lineup and they probably win 3 of those 4 games. Right now there are too many players playing way below expected, did you think Lemahieu would be hitting in the 230’s did you think Rizzo would ever go into this prolonged of a funk, Stanton has never proven to be worth what the Yankees gave him and that’s on Cashman, signing guys like Montas and Rodon that’s also on Cashman. When fully healthy and going good this is a fun team to watch, with injuries and players underperforming right now it is very challenging to even turn the games on but it won’t always be this way. Maybe we get last years first half team for the second half of this year.

That was the optimistic Steve talking, the pessimistic Steve says burn it down and start all over.

[hxcmilkshake]

Originally Posted by Boo

Apparently the fans in this thread that thought they would be good. They had zero shot at the WS this year and only a punchers chance at the playoffs. That still might happen but if you honestly looked at the lineup at the beginning of the year and thought "that's a nice playoff team", that's on you.

With no injuries its a playoff team. But that's why they actually play the games. But do enlighten us oh God of message board posting--- who will win it all this year?

Did you have the Rays hitting HR at a torrid pace? The Reds and Pirates ripping off long winning streaks? The Rangers being good without DeGrom? The Marlins with the 3rd best record in the NL?

I'm sure you did. You must watch a ton of baseball in between your 39000 posts.



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[Boo]

Originally Posted by spuds1961

No you take away the injuries and they had a lineup that was playoff ready, probably not a World Series threat but built for the usual 90 to 100 wins. Up until the sweep in Boston they were still 9 games over .500 with the last 4 losses being by 1 run. You throw Judge and Bader back in the lineup and they probably win 3 of those 4 games. Right now there are too many players playing way below expected, did you think Lemahieu would be hitting in the 230’s did you think Rizzo would ever go into this prolonged of a funk, Stanton has never proven to be worth what the Yankees gave him and that’s on Cashman, signing guys like Montas and Rodon that’s also on Cashman. When fully healthy and going good this is a fun team to watch, with injuries and players underperforming right now it is very challenging to even turn the games on but it won’t always be this way. Maybe we get last years first half team for the second half of this year.

That was the optimistic Steve talking, the pessimistic Steve says burn it down and start all over.

That is the smart Steve. Too many aging players that are a shell of their former selves. You can't win with that. Even if I take away the injuries, they still are trying to cling to a WC berth. This is not a good team even when healthy.

[spuds1961]

Originally Posted by Boo

That is the smart Steve. Too many aging players that are a shell of their former selves. You can't win with that. Even if I take away the injuries, they still are trying to cling to a WC berth. This is not a good team even when healthy.

Actually when completely healthy.

Bader cf
Judge rf
Rizzo 1b
Stanton dh
Lemahieu 3b
Torres 2b
IKF ss
Trevino c
Cabrera lf

Pitching

Cole, Severino, Rodon, Montas, German, Schmidt or any 5 or 6 starter.

Bullpen

Holmes, Loaisiga, King, Peralta, Marinaccio.

The bench is weak but that is a team that is a 90 to 100 win team, Volpe was brought up too soon and other rookies like Cabrera and Peraza aren’t as good as they looked in last years small sample size, still a long season it’s not how you start it’s how you finish.

[Boo]

Originally Posted by spuds1961

Actually when completely healthy.

Bader cf - decent
Judge rf - good
Rizzo 1b - injury prone the past few years, not what he was
Stanton dh - blows
Lemahieu 3b - lost it
Torres 2b - hit or miss
IKF ss - no power at a position that should have some
Trevino c - none of the catchers can hit
Cabrera lf

Pitching

Cole, Severino, Rodon, Montas, German, Schmidt or any 5 or 6 starter.

Bullpen

Holmes, Loaisiga, King, Peralta, Marinaccio.

The bench is weak but that is a team that is a 90 to 100 win team, Volpe was brought up too soon and other rookies like Cabrera and Peraza aren’t as good as they looked in last years small sample size, still a long season it’s not how you start it’s how you finish.

I don't see that as a good team, never did. The pitching has been fine but the hitting is terrible, nothing can change that.

[spuds1961]

Originally Posted by Boo

I don't see that as a good team, never did. The pitching has been fine but the hitting is terrible, nothing can change that.

Fair assessment but when going good I can see a couple I disagree with, yes they aren’t doing anything but how before this week with that pile of crap you outlined how were they 10 games over.500

[SyrNy1960]

Originally Posted by Mandy1320

Wow this Yankees team is just a tough watch. Everyone is right in saying that it shouldn't just come down to Judge coming back.

There's a very real chance that the team isn't much better with him on a night to night basis. Stanton, Rizzo, DJ, Volpe, aren't going to start magically start hitting with him in the lineup.

Not sure how this team can fix itself like it's tried to in years past. No spending room, no huge, difference-making prospects to trade/call up, the 2024 FA market is relatively weak minus Ohtani and Soto. The window is closing fast.

It's all Cashman's fault.

J99 - Bingo! Well said!

[timothypowers6]

The thing I've slowly and painfully realized. And some people may think it's hyperbole. But these aren't true Yankees. They wear the pinstripes and play in Yankee stadium.

But true Yankees don't choke against Houston year after year. And lay down to Boston. If George was alive he would of fired everybody after losing to Houston. It would of drove him crazy. Cashman would of had to come thru or he would of been gone years ago.

Now just making the playoffs is good enough for the Yankees now. It's gotten old. The Rays have a low payroll and hardly have any household names and are better then us. And they've had their injuries too.

This organization has become weak minded and the players are brittle. Same crap every year. A good team that hits homers with an elite bullpen and then falls apart against a better team in October because they lean so heavily on Judge and Stanton. Rinse and repeat. The only other dog in that clubhouse is Bader. But he can't stay healthy. It sucks.



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[ottobord]

Originally Posted by timothypowers6

The thing I've slowly and painfully realized. And some people may think it's hyperbole. But these aren't true Yankees. They wear the pinstripes and play in Yankee stadium.

But true Yankees don't choke against Houston year after year. And lay down to Boston. If George was alive he would of fired everybody after losing to Houston. It would of drove him crazy. Cashman would of had to come thru or he would of been gone years ago.

Now just making the playoffs is good enough for the Yankees now. It's gotten old. The Rays have a low payroll and hardly have any household names and are better then us. And they've had their injuries too.

This organization has become weak minded and the players are brittle. Same crap every year. A good team that hits homers with an elite bullpen and then falls apart against a better team in October because they lean so heavily on Judge and Stanton. Rinse and repeat. The only other dog in that clubhouse is Bader. But he can't stay healthy. It sucks.



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You're not allowed to be a "true Yankee" anymore. Playing in the WBC is more important.

[SyrNy1960]

Originally Posted by timothypowers6

The thing I've slowly and painfully realized. And some people may think it's hyperbole. But these aren't true Yankees. They wear the pinstripes and play in Yankee stadium.

But true Yankees don't choke against Houston year after year. And lay down to Boston. If George was alive he would of fired everybody after losing to Houston. It would of drove him crazy. Cashman would of had to come thru or he would of been gone years ago.

Now just making the playoffs is good enough for the Yankees now. It's gotten old. The Rays have a low payroll and hardly have any household names and are better then us. And they've had their injuries too.

This organization has become weak minded and the players are brittle. Same crap every year. A good team that hits homers with an elite bullpen and then falls apart against a better team in October because they lean so heavily on Judge and Stanton. Rinse and repeat. The only other dog in that clubhouse is Bader. But he can't stay healthy. It sucks.



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GREAT POST!!!!!’

[spuds1961]

So what’s the fix to this problem and how long are we willing to wait.

[hxcmilkshake]

For any major change to happen they would have to miss the playoffs. Root for the Angels if you want that

I think if Hicks remains hot they won't want to DFA Donaldson for fear of the same thing.

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[timothypowers6]

Originally Posted by spuds1961

So what’s the fix to this problem and how long are we willing to wait.

This won't fix it necessarily. But a few messages have to be sent. Donaldson needs to be DFA'd. D.J needs to be benched as long as needed. Because he's hurting the team. Send Volpe down, and fire the hitting coach.

None of that would hurt the team.





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[timothypowers6]

Originally Posted by hxcmilkshake

For any major change to happen they would have to miss the playoffs. Root for the Angels if you want that

I think if Hicks remains hot they won't want to DFA Donaldson for fear of the same thing.

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Hicks will cool off or get hurt. Sanchez is hot for some reason too. But we know over the course of a season both are worthless and won't help a playoff contender.

I mean hell Jake Bauers and Billy McKinney are playing over their heads for us but do we really think these guys are gonna keep it up. No.

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[hxcmilkshake]

Originally Posted by timothypowers6

Hicks will cool off or get hurt. Sanchez is hot for some reason too. But we know over the course of a season both are worthless and won't help a playoff contender.

I mean hell Jake Bauers and Billy McKinney are playing over their heads for us but do we really think these guys are gonna keep it up. No.

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I think with Sanchez and Hicks we suffered forever waiting for them. There are no quick triggers with this regime. Donaldson will be around the rest of the year , I pray I am wrong.
We don't have anyone else anyway....nobody's hitting.

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