Aaron Judge

[Neo]

I wouldn't want anyone in my lineup facing Kluber. Bench em all.

[mgugs46]

Originally Posted by cnewby

Sounds good, thanks for offering your thoughts.

I can tell you one thing for certain, when the Yankees win the division and Judge breaks the rookie HR record, he absolutely WILL win MVP.

whoops....

Sure, if both those things happen, he's got a shot...however since neither are likely, I'll stick with my opinion.

Also, remember in 1987 when McGwire shattered the record and won MVP? Oh wait, that's right, he finished 6th in the voting. Oddly his numbers that year other than walks are likely to be better than Judges.

[ILOVEBEER]

Originally Posted by hornedfrog1985

Lol... hes hurt. He needs rest. You might as well rest him against the al cy young.

So is he hurt or not? When he's in a slump, he's hurt. He has a good game, he's the MVP/ROY!!! Rest him against the Indians? Great idea. They obviously didn't have faith in Judge to play against the Indians. If he really is hurt, why not rest him for an extended amount of time?

Hate to say it but this whole MVP push feels like it's coming from people who just want a bump in card prices. You can't honestly look at all the talent in the A.L. and say Judge is the best player.

[NorCalSCM]

Milestone Weekend for Rookie Slugger Aaron Judge

[hornedfrog1985]

Originally Posted by ILOVEBEER

So is he hurt or not? When he's in a slump, he's hurt. He has a good game, he's the MVP/ROY!!! Rest him against the Indians? Great idea. They obviously didn't have faith in Judge to play against the Indians. If he really is hurt, why not rest him for an extended amount of time?

Hate to say it but this whole MVP push feels like it's coming from people who just want a bump in card prices. You can't honestly look at all the talent in the A.L. and say Judge is the best player.

He has been the most valuable player, yes. If it was the best player of the year award he should still win, but thats subjective

[TimBuckTwo]

ALL RISE !!!

[KB81]

Anyone in Yanks farm system worth 1/3 the hype we are showing for AJ?

Already thinking Spring time since this thread will not be AS active next year, although, I will still chime in from time to time.

[Numba1yankeefan]

Originally Posted by KB81

Anyone in Yanks farm system worth 1/3 the hype we are showing for AJ?

Already thinking Spring time since this thread will not be AS active next year, although, I will still chime in from time to time.

GLEYBER!

[Wiseguy917]

Originally Posted by mgugs46

Sure, if both those things happen, he's got a shot...however since neither are likely, I'll stick with my opinion.

Also, remember in 1987 when McGwire shattered the record and won MVP? Oh wait, that's right, he finished 6th in the voting. Oddly his numbers that year other than walks are likely to be better than Judges.

REEEAAACCCHHHHHHHHH

1. It's a different league

2. You're not including the rest of the field

3. With 20 games left the numbers are comparable. After 20 games, not so much. Judge will have wayyyyy more runs, steals, a huuuuuge lead in OBP, more walks

Aaron Judge has already been declared a saint by the Catholic Church, has been knighted by the British Empire, was given the key to every city in America, took over the #1 spot for most action figures sold in a year, won a Michelin star, the Nobel prize, written 3 best selling books, aaaaaand has invented a perpetual motion machine. An MVP is, well, meh to him at this point. He'll appreciate it but it'll go on the bottom shelf of his bookcase

[COMCMax]

Originally Posted by ninjacookies

2xx is my guess. Most cards drop off substantially during the offseason. Right now there are still buyers because players are still in the news and relevant.

I'll be nabbing a few then, but no way am I touching them at the current levels.

Lowest I've seen a raw BC Judge autograph since he blew up.

2013 Bowman Chrome AARON JUDGE Draft Picks and Prospects AUTOGRAPH ROOKIE RC

[hornedfrog1985]

Originally Posted by Numba1yankeefan

GLEYBER!

Gleyber would have been insane to add to this lineup. Im hoping for another cano... have him batting 2nd or 3rd in front of judge and sanchez.. nasty. He looks like the real deal.

[KB81]

Isn't he injured or was injured?

[NorCalSCM]

Originally Posted by KB81

Isn't he injured or was injured?

Injury? Ohhhhh..... That injury. The injury that magically disappears when performance takes center stage

[Numba1yankeefan]

He might be sore/tired but I don't think he's injured.

[hornedfrog1985]

I bet he is or was. You dont discuss mris and cortisone shots unless something is wrong. I have a feeling theyve been rehabbing his shoulder on the down low. You can play with low grade muscle strains, it would just effect his range of motion in his shoulder. A doctor would just closely monitor it, and if it got painful youd call it quits. It would explain a whole lot. Even injured hes better than most other guys, even striking out a ton being ridiculed for it etc. I 100% believe he is emulating jeter and playing because he was told he could, and that him getting on base constantly still is better than some other outfielder .250 with a .290 obp who might hit 15 home runs in his place. There is a quote where girardi got real defensive about judges struggles. Like it sounded like he was mad because he knows judge is not close to 100% and hes just taking all the media and hater abuse,.

http://www.nj.com/yankees/index.ssf/...n_tuesday.html

That being said i believe he was getting pitched differently and chasing more there for a month. No clue how much effect the hr derby had on his swing. I dont believe judge is a .200 hitter, i could care less about his strike outs (he was on pace to have like 230 with his first half numbers,) i think hes closer to a .300 hitter.

[drstrader5]

Originally Posted by hornedfrog1985

I bet he is or was. You dont discuss mris and cortisone shots unless something is wrong. I have a feeling theyve been rehabbing his shoulder on the down low. You can play with low grade muscle strains, it would just effect his range of motion in his shoulder. A doctor would just closely monitor it, and if it got painful youd call it quits. It would explain a whole lot. Even injured hes better than most other guys, even striking out a ton being ridiculed for it etc. I 100% believe he is emulating jeter and playing because he was told he could, and that him getting on base constantly still is better than some other outfielder .250 with a .290 obp who might hit 15 home runs in his place. There is a quote where girardi got real defensive about judges struggles. Like it sounded like he was mad because he knows judge is not close to 100% and hes just taking all the media and hater abuse,.

Your OBP argument makes zero sense. You want your middle of the order guys to drive in runs, not get on base for the bottom half of the lineup. If he was really injured he would be on the DL. Yes he might have a nagging injury but I'd imagine most players are dealing with some sort of annoying ailment this time of year. The guy is struggling because he can't hit the breaking ball.

[NorCalSCM]

Originally Posted by hornedfrog1985

There is a quote where girardi got real defensive about judges struggles. Like it sounded like he was mad because he knows judge is not close to 100% and hes just taking all the media and hater abuse,.

Little things like that show the truth sometimes. Nice find.

[Neo]

OBP is king.

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/ar...articleid=8938

[AllRise]

Aaron Judge is batting .277 with 41HR 107Runs 90RBI AND 7Steals.... His on base percentage is .411 and his OPS is .994... In his FIRST full season...

Oh, I'm sorry he strikes out a lot...

How's your Rookie doin'?

ALL RISE!!!

[KB81]

Originally Posted by allrise

aaron judge is batting .277 with 41hr 107runs 90rbi and 7steals.... His on base percentage is .411 and his ops is .994... In his first full season...

Oh, i'm sorry he strikes out a lot...

How's your rookie doin'?

All rise!!!

#howsyourrookiedoing?!
#allrise!!

[NorCalSCM]

[Numba1yankeefan]

Back in the 2nd spot tonight.

Odorizzi has given up 28 home runs in 122 innings this year.

Hoping for #42!!

[NorCalSCM]

[jrg1128]

Originally Posted by hornedfrog1985

I bet he is or was. You dont discuss mris and cortisone shots unless something is wrong. I have a feeling theyve been rehabbing his shoulder on the down low. You can play with low grade muscle strains, it would just effect his range of motion in his shoulder. A doctor would just closely monitor it, and if it got painful youd call it quits. It would explain a whole lot. Even injured hes better than most other guys, even striking out a ton being ridiculed for it etc. I 100% believe he is emulating jeter and playing because he was told he could, and that him getting on base constantly still is better than some other outfielder .250 with a .290 obp who might hit 15 home runs in his place. There is a quote where girardi got real defensive about judges struggles. Like it sounded like he was mad because he knows judge is not close to 100% and hes just taking all the media and hater abuse,.

http://www.nj.com/yankees/index.ssf/...n_tuesday.html

That being said i believe he was getting pitched differently and chasing more there for a month. No clue how much effect the hr derby had on his swing. I dont believe judge is a .200 hitter, i could care less about his strike outs (he was on pace to have like 230 with his first half numbers,) i think hes closer to a .300 hitter.

So, say he has been injured this second half, you would consider him better than "most guys"? C'mon now. I don't care if you like the guy or not, you can't honestly believe that statement.

What I find funny about this whole situation is that his numbers from the second half are comparable to his numbers after being called up last year. But, to a lot of people, there is NO WAY that he could perform this way without an injury, even though he has already proven that he can.

Pitchers adjusted to him and he started chasing more pitches just like he did when he was called up and he put up similar numbers. So now the question is whether or not he can make another adjustment to get back on track.

I don't think he is a .200 or a .300 hitter. He will more than likely fall somewhere closer to the middle of that spectrum because of his high strikeout rate and his BABIP will never be as high again as it had been in the first half of this year. He is more along the lines of a .250, 35-40 HR guy which is still a GREAT player. He's just not the player all of the Judge lovers thought he would be after his first half and that's ok, because he will still be a very good player. There is just no need to make him up to be more than he will be in the future.

Also, to think that someone who strikes out as much as Judge does will be a .300 hitter is a bit ridiculous. Unless you think he cuts down on his strikeouts.

Disclaimer: I could be wrong, this is just my opinion.

[moosetequila]

Originally Posted by Numba1yankeefan

Back in the 2nd spot tonight.

Odorizzi has given up 28 home runs in 122 innings this year.

Hoping for #42!!

What? No mention of 44? Blasphemy!

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