2020 Politics Thread - Enter At Your Own Risk - RULES IN OP

[Siberian13]

Originally Posted by blackbears86

Not sure about your obsession with China, but The tests we use at my hospital are not made in China.

Where are they made?

[Onions]

Originally Posted by blackbears86

Not sure about your obsession with China, but The tests we use at my hospital are not made in China.

Good to hear.

[Whodatiz]

Originally Posted by Siberian13

No but he does add an O to the end of everyone's name he treats

I'm going to need help with this one. The White Claw...err...I mean the Jack is flowing tonight.

Speaking of which, Hess' thread needs a bump.

Edit: Never mind. I see he refers to Trump in a bilingual tongue.

[Onions]

Originally Posted by jdandns

First of all, a transcript of Fauci's words do not constitute my arguments. More to the point, the buck stops with Trump. He's the boss, and he's told us over and over that he has only the "best people" working for him. The President sure hasn't been shy about replacing many, many others. If Fauci was so clearly lacking, why didn't the President replace him in the three years before this? And why hasn't he fired him yet, if Fauci's the one responsible for Trump looking so bad throughout all of this.

You think quoting Fauci's words from another 5 weeks before his words of Feb. 29 that you mischaracterized is helpful to your case?
I don't think you understand how this works.

Sometimes you don't know someone is lacking until they are presented with a challenge. Fauci and many other "experts" failed bigly.

[Whodatiz]

Originally Posted by Dbacksbaseball

Dude you quoted a Senator on Feb 5......Honest question...do you not understand the timelines of your own argument.

I wish you were just trolling, but unfortunately...this is you.

New poll idea. May get me in trouble with the higher powers, but I may do it!

[blackbears86]

Originally Posted by Siberian13

Where are they made?

I think we use thermo-fisher out of Mass.

But who knows? Maybe they sub contract out to...............CHINA


edit: or Abbott? I'll get back to you on that.

[DegaBama]

https://www.louderwithcrowder.com/de...-stevencrowder

Got a chuckle from this.

[Siberian13]

Originally Posted by blackbears86

I think we use thermo-fisher out of Mass.

But who knows? Maybe they sub contract out to...............CHINA


edit: or Abbott? I'll get back to you on that.

Yeah I had no clue my bacon was China owned

[kerg]

Originally Posted by blackbears86

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but why do other countries have a proportionately higher number of tests being conducted than the US?

Don't have the answer. Are some of the countries buying from China who has been at this for months longer. Are they buying some of ours?

Going off tests per million, we seem to be around the area that UK, Italy, Germany, Canada are at. I'm sure every country would love to be at a 1:1 testing rate, but at the end of the day, it's going to be a production capacity limit dictating how fast tests can enter the global marketplace.

[Onions]

Originally Posted by blackbears86

I think we use thermo-fisher out of Mass.

But who knows? Maybe they sub contract out to...............CHINA


edit: or Abbott? I'll get back to you on that.

Why don't they just make a couple billion more tests for us? Problem solved.

[blackbears86]

Originally Posted by Onions

Why don't they just make a couple billion more tests for us? Problem solved.

Testing is being ramped up, but our availability is still quite limited.

[Onions]

Originally Posted by kerg

Don't have the answer. Are some of the countries buying from China who has been at this for months longer. Are they buying some of ours?

Going off tests per million, we seem to be around the area that UK, Italy, Germany, Canada are at. I'm sure every country would love to be at a 1:1 testing rate, but at the end of the day, it's going to be a production capacity limit dictating how fast tests can enter the global marketplace.

They were, but the tests were junk. Most stopped using them. China still exports the supplies to make them though, along with PPE.

[Onions]

Originally Posted by Siberian13

Yeah I had no clue my bacon was China owned

I buy local. China and Brazil own most of the meat processing capabilities in the US though.

[SleeperCards]

Originally Posted by Whodatiz

SleeperCards right now:

[kerg]

Originally Posted by Onions

They were, but the tests were junk. Most stopped using them. China still exports the supplies to make them though, along with PPE.

Figured as much.

I'm sure China has all our best interests at heart and is churning out as much quality PPE and product to make test kits as humanly possible and at a reasonable purchase price...

That was sarcasm if no one detected it.

[jdandns]

Originally Posted by Onions

Sometimes you don't know someone is lacking until they are presented with a challenge. Fauci and many other "experts" failed bigly.

So why hasn't Trump fired Fauci yet?

Originally Posted by Dbacksbaseball

Dude you quoted a Senator on Feb 5......Honest question...do you not understand the timelines of your own argument.

I wish you were just trolling, but unfortunately...this is you.

I do understand the timelines.
If you did, you'd realize how embarrassing it is for the President that a U.S. Senator from a small state would've had us infinitely more prepared for this than Trump did. Surely, Trump was privy to the same information that so alarmed Senator Murphy.

Here it is, for those who may have missed it:

[TheHeel]

Originally Posted by coachnip13

Ah, more conjecture. One would think you people would have learned from 2016. Oh well.

The report is fact; not opinion.

[Astros19]

Originally Posted by SleeperCards

Originally Posted by SleeperCards

Please don't tell me you put any faith in that MSNBC poll.
There is no way that is anywhere near accurate.

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[Whodatiz]

Originally Posted by SleeperCards

MSNBC.

[Dbacksbaseball]

Originally Posted by jdandns

So why hasn't Trump fired Fauci yet?



I do understand the timelines.
If you did, you'd realize how embarrassing it is for the President that a U.S. Senator from a small state would've had us infinitely more prepared for this than Trump did. Surely, Trump was privy to the same information that so alarmed Senator Murphy.

Here it is, for those who may have missed it:

You clearly don't.

Jan 21- Fauci tells Americans not to worry and that the CDC and Homeland have it under control
Feb 5- The Senator says they aren't taking it seriously enough.

Who do you think was advising Trump over those 2 weeks (not 5, math is hard), and not much changed in that period.

I think along with personal attacks gaining suspensions, pure contradictions need added to that list.

[hairysasquatch]

All this Monday morning QB-ing about testing is getting my dander up...
Fauci looking worse by the day.
Cuomo is insane.
To hell with 2020.

[Whodatiz]

Originally Posted by TheHeel

The report is fact; not opinion.

Hey, where's my Schiff transcripts?

[Wiseguy917]

Ahhhh the thread is back and I see it’s still just thesqueal and jdandsons on an island trying to convince the rest of the world that they’re intelligent and correct. Carry on.....

[Onions]

Originally Posted by jdandns

So why hasn't Trump fired Fauci yet?

Ask yourself and Heel how you would react if he were to do that. You guys would go insane.

Not the correct move to make at this point. The damage is done and there is no amount of firings that will fix it now. The agencies we pay hundreds of millions of dollars to in order to protect ourselves from a situation just like this will definitely need to be looked at once this passes.

[jdandns]

Originally Posted by Dbacksbaseball

You clearly don't.

Jan 21- Fauci tells Americans not to worry and that the CDC and Homeland have it under control
Feb 5- The Senator says they aren't taking it seriously enough.

Who do you think was advising Trump over those 2 weeks (not 5, math is hard), and not much changed in that period.

I think along with personal attacks gaining suspensions, pure contradictions need added to that list.

Math is easy. It was five weeks between the Fauci comments you linked to and Fauci's comments on the Today show.
I've only ever related the timing of Murphy's comments to Trump's comments.

You're the one trying to blame everyone but Trump for his own epic failure.

Feb 5- The Senator says they aren't taking it seriously enough.
March 9- Trump says there is no problem.

Do you need to see the tweets again?