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Old 07-22-2016, 08:30 PM   #1351
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Kaine reminds me of that Howard dean guy looks wise

He plays the harmonica
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Old 07-22-2016, 08:53 PM   #1353
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Not true. We've accumulated the 19 trillion over generations. The US has a GDP of 17 trillion per year.

Who has a mortgage? Who has a mortgage for more than their annual income?
Do you remember the housing market bubble?

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Old 07-22-2016, 09:02 PM   #1355
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Do you remember the housing market bubble?
When Mr. Obama took over in January 2009, the total national debt stood at $10.6 trillion. That means the debt will have very nearly doubled during his eight years in office, and there is much more debt ahead with the abandonment of “sequestration” spending caps enacted in 2011.
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When Mr. Obama took over in January 2009, the total national debt stood at $10.6 trillion. That means the debt will have very nearly doubled during his eight years in office, and there is much more debt ahead with the abandonment of “sequestration” spending caps enacted in 2011.

Suredly not! But he told us that Bush adding 4 trillion was unpatriotic and irresponsible! The Great One would not tell us wrong!

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Sorry if I missed it. Shooter was German/Iranian. Soooooo....he was from Iran.
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Any comments or opinions on Obamas speech today? IMO it didn't jive very well.
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Old 07-22-2016, 10:10 PM   #1359
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Any comments or opinions on Obamas speech today? IMO it didn't jive very well.
Don't smirk and make jokes about birds still chirping

Certain streets in ChIRAQ still dark
Certain families in Dallas still heart broken
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Sorry if I missed it. Shooter was German/Iranian. Soooooo....he was from Iran.
Well all knew this the second the news broke. Unfortunately, its the same story playing over and over and over again. I don't need the media outlets to tell me their motives.
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60,000,000 refugees in the world don't think birds chirping

Western Europe, 3 attacks last 8 days. Birds not chirping there

Carson Fulmer giving up bunch of runs today. Birds not chirping

Plus turn on blue lights already at the White House
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To the uninformed-Angela Merkel, the Chancellor of Germany, allowed an open door policy for immigrants in Germany last year. It is now being called a historic mistake in Europe.


This is also a major reason why the UK left the Union. There is no other way to spin this. No matter what the left says or doesn't say this is the truth. This will happen to the US under our current direction. Hell, it already is happening.
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To the uninformed-Angela Merkel, the Chancellor of Germany, allowed an open door policy for immigrants in Germany last year. It is now being called a historic mistake in Europe.


This is also a major reason why the UK left the Union. There is no other way to spin this. No matter what the left says or doesn't say this is the truth. This will happen to the US under our current direction. Hell, it already is happening.
Which candidate is presenting an open door policy to let all immigrants in without question?
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Which candidate is presenting an open door policy to let all immigrants in without question?
Hillary is wanting to allow a 500% increase in Syrian refugees. Not an open door policy but still a terrible position.


Politifact: Hillary Clinton for 500% Increase in Syrian Refugees

Clinton has, in fact, said that in response to the refugee crisis she would raise Obama’s limit of 10,000 to 65,000. That’s 550 percent more, a bit higher than what Trump said. . .
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But the 65k will be screened so no biggie right?
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Hillary is wanting to allow a 500% increase in Syrian refugees. Not an open door policy but still a terrible position.





Politifact: Hillary Clinton for 500% Increase in Syrian Refugees



Clinton has, in fact, said that in response to the refugee crisis she would raise Obama’s limit of 10,000 to 65,000. That’s 550 percent more, a bit higher than what Trump said. . .

It's a big difference but it's much different than letting anyone in.


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Saying she is increasing the number is a fact. Saying she will have an open door policy is false. Agree or disagree?


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You have done nothing in this thread except say "you're wrong" to every single person against Hillary. Your posts have no substance. The funniest part is you don't even try to form any arguments, you just spew the same drivel about "opinions, not facts"

I'm genuinely curious, we know the sound of
Trumps name just throws you into an uncontrollable fit of rage for seemingly no reason, what do you Like or admire about Hillary? What good qualities does she have other than the political experience?
I find Trump humorous, same as any other person with nothing fact-based to say, but who nevertheless talks with endless bluster. What you actually know is inversely proportional to what you think you know. You amuse me for that very reason.

As for the rest, well, uh, that's your opinion, man, and nothing more, same as always. I won't be relying on you to determine my value here, there, or anywhere.
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Saying she is increasing the number is a fact. Saying she will have an open door policy is false. Agree or disagree?


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I said GERMANY had an open door policy of letting Syrians in. Why do you have an obsession with twisting things?
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I find Trump humorous, same as any other person with nothing fact-based to say, but who nevertheless talks with endless bluster. What you actually know is inversely proportional to what you think you know. You amuse me for that very reason.

As for the rest, well, uh, that's your opinion, man, and nothing more, same as always. I won't be relying on you to determine my value here, there, or anywhere.

You have contributed absolutely nothing to this thread. Nothing.
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To the uninformed-Angela Merkel, the Chancellor of Germany, allowed an open door policy for immigrants in Germany last year. It is now being called a historic mistake in Europe.


This is also a major reason why the UK left the Union. There is no other way to spin this. No matter what the left says or doesn't say this is the truth. This will happen to the US under our current direction. Hell, it already is happening.
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I said GERMANY had an open door policy of letting Syrians in. Why do you have an obsession with twisting things?
Well I'll bold this, but what I asked was WHO? You shared a link about Clinton saying the number grew.

The answer is simply neither major candidate is for an open door policy. Simple, straight forward and factual. You are the one that brought up Clinton and you are the one that said it is our current direction. Neither are true.

There is no twisting. Simple questions that require simple answers.
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Well I'll bold this, but what I asked was WHO? You shared a link about Clinton saying the number grew.

The answer is simply neither major candidate is for an open door policy. Simple, straight forward and factual. You are the one that brought up Clinton and you are the one that said it is our current direction. Neither are true.

There is no twisting. Simple questions that require simple answers.
So a 550% increase is not concerning to you? Serious question. What is your position on allowing that to happen? As has been discussed before and admitted by the director of the FBI we have no information on these people other than knowing they come from a hostile and volatile country.
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So a 550% increase is not concerning to you? Serious question. What is your position on allowing that to happen.

It's definitely a concern but not nearly as much as an open door policy.

(Note how I simply and directly answered your question)


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I am going to guess that you are young, and don't know your history. In 1986 they did exactly this. They passed a bill granting all illegals that entered the country prior to 1982 amnesty. This gave amnesty to 3.2million illegals and made them citizens. They had to pay back taxes and a fine. Included in the bill was a provision that it was now illegal to hire illegal immigrants. Also the border was to be secured.ted Kennedy led the dems Into not funding the securing of the border. So what happened? We now have 20 to 30 million new illegals. They flooded over the border. So let's say we say screw it and give them all amnesty again. It didn't work the first time, but let's say we do it against . aka insanity. Now what? The border is still not secure. So seeing as we are granting citizenship to illegals, even more will come flood over the border. So now we have these 30 million new citizens, what do we do with the next 30 or 50 million that come in? Without securing the border,we can have no plan. First get the border secure, then figure out the rest. When you have a leaky pipe, first you stop the leak, then you start to fix the plumbing.
Can we ship out the worthless, bottom-feeding Americans who refuse to work, cheat the system and mooch off of welfare, and bring just as many 'anchor babies' into this world...maybe trade them for some credit at a taco truck?

Tacos de lengua, adobada, or asada would be a nice start. Maybe a couple six packs of Tecate or Modelo? A fifth of Cazadores?

Send the dirtbags back with...the dirtbags.
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