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dbackschamp2001 · 03-29-2015, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Wolves4Life

Once they put Rollins with authority no one cared about him. Now no one will care about WWE champ. Is that really a smart move? At least Roman would have got a reaction.

1. Please don't speak for me. I personally cared more about Rollins after he joined the authority.
2. Stop trying to call your opinions facts

Ty Hope · 03-29-2015, 11:27 PM

One of the most well known wrestling analysts of the last 20+ years.

Wolves4Life · 03-29-2015, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by dbackschamp2001

1. Please don't speak for me. I personally cared more about Rollins after he joined the authority.
2. Stop trying to call your opinions facts

I didn't speak for you. Had I said I speak for everyone than ok. It's a figure of speech,

Listening to the crowd only chant you sold out is not getting people to care. Fact.

dbackschamp2001 · 03-29-2015, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Wolves4Life

I didn't speak for you. Had I said I speak for everyone than ok. It's a figure of speech,

Listening to the crowd only chant you sold out is not getting people to care. Fact.

no one
pronoun
no person; not a single person.

gorillaz · 03-29-2015, 11:37 PM

just gonna set this here:

Wolves4Life · 03-29-2015, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by dbackschamp2001

no one
pronoun
no person; not a single person.

I get what you are saying. It's a figure of speech. So should I of said few cared? Clearly a lot didn't.

Wolves4Life · 03-29-2015, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by gorillaz

just gonna set this here:

They had to waste Pyro somewhere.

gorillaz · 03-29-2015, 11:41 PM

Cena: a usual luchador high flyer

Ty Hope · 03-29-2015, 11:41 PM

Rollins is over. From here forth, the potential for a GREAT heel is there too. Imagine when he eventually goes face? Much bigger star than RR.

Wolves4Life · 03-29-2015, 11:43 PM

Let's bring this back.

Orton never got his WM30 rematch.
Reigns never got his guaranteed one on one title match
Lesnar is owed a rematch.
Orton beat Seth
Reigns beat Seth
Brock beat Seth.
Brock vs Orton vs Rollins vs Reigns at Extreme Rules or does 1 of those matches happen on RAW?

Ty Hope · 03-29-2015, 11:44 PM

No question in my mind that Vince was planning on RR going over. But even he knew the fans would crap all over him if he won. I wonder when this ending came to be. Doubt it was the plan all along. Love it though.

Wolves4Life · 03-29-2015, 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Ty Hope

Rollins is over. From here forth, the potential for a GREAT heel is there too. Imagine when he eventually goes face? Much bigger star than RR.

Actually no creative hurt Reigns. Everyone yes everyone I repeat everyone knows that. They hurt Reigns by allowing Bryan to be in the rumble and by giving Bryan a dumb shot at Fast Lane.

dbackschamp2001 · 03-29-2015, 11:45 PM

Rollins has a unique look and personality. He stands out from the crowd more than Reigns does. I don't see him having longs runs with the title but could be in the title picture/main event for a long time. He could end up being similar to Edge.

BoxBreaker72 · 03-29-2015, 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Ty Hope

Rollins is over. From here forth, the potential for a GREAT heel is there too. Imagine when he eventually goes face? Much bigger star than RR.

Yeah, fans want to cheer him because he's so talented. It's a fine line when you are a "bad guy". They need to get heat on him ASAP or have him turn face.

The RR sealed it for me, he is a legit top guy. Little weak on the mic, but nothing serious.

CharlieHustle · 03-29-2015, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by dbackschamp2001

Rollins has a unique look and personality. He stands out from the crowd more than Reigns does. I don't see him having longs runs with the title but could be in the title picture/main event for a long time. He could end up being similar to Edge.

I think Seth Rollins is the package that WWE thought John Morrison would be someday.

hitman1116 · 03-29-2015, 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Wolves4Life

Actually no creative hurt Reigns. Everyone yes everyone I repeat everyone knows that. They hurt Reigns by allowing Bryan to be in the rumble and by giving Bryan a dumb shot at Fast Lane.

Giving Bryan a chance was to try and shut people up. Bryan led a great match that made Reigns look strong

Deeks · 03-29-2015, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Ty Hope

One of the most well known wrestling analysts of the last 20+ years.

I don't agree with some of Wolves opinions.

But pulling a Scott Keith quote, then praising him like you did above is a joke.

dbackschamp2001 · 03-29-2015, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Wolves4Life

Actually no creative hurt Reigns. Everyone yes everyone I repeat everyone knows that. They hurt Reigns by allowing Bryan to be in the rumble and by giving Bryan a dumb shot at Fast Lane.

I was a little upset when Reigns won the Rumble, but as time went by I became ok with it. I feel that his victory at Fast Lane helped that. I really like the Brock/Reigns portion of the match, but Rollins made it memorable.

CharlieHustle · 03-29-2015, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by BoxBreaker72

Yeah, fans want to cheer him because he's so talented. It's a fine line when you are a "bad guy". They need to get heat on him ASAP or have him turn face.

The RR sealed it for me, he is a legit top guy. Little weak on the mic, but nothing serious.

I think his displays of being "weak" are when he's overly-scripted. He plays the role of "entitled brat" to the tee and has potential to be one of the best heels of the 2010's.

gorillaz · 03-29-2015, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by dbackschamp2001

I was a little upset when Reigns won the Rumble, but as time went by I became ok with it. I feel that his victory at Fast Lane helped that. I really like the Brock/Reigns portion of the match, but Rollins made it memorable.

first time someone has ever cashed in DURING a match, not after.

Ty Hope · 03-29-2015, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Deeks

I don't agree with some of Wolves opinions.

But pulling a Scott Keith quote, then praising him like you did above is a joke.

Many dont like him, but Ive always enjoyed Scott Keiths reviews.

ricksam · 03-29-2015, 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by gorillaz

first time someone has ever cashed in DURING a match, not after.

calls for a rematch on Raw?

CharlieHustle · 03-29-2015, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Ty Hope

No question in my mind that Vince was planning on RR going over. But even he knew the fans would crap all over him if he won. I wonder when this ending came to be. Doubt it was the plan all along. Love it though.

IMO, this is why they delayed the return of Randy Orton. There were rumors 6 weeks out, that Randy was returning, but it kept getting delayed. I think this was because they needed Rollins to be there in the event that Reigns/Lesnar was a complete unfix-able trainwreck, post Royal Rumble. Reigns (and more so, Paul Heyman), kept the storyline glued together just enough to get them to Mania.
Taking all of this into consideration, I think the decision was made when Orton turned on Rollins at Raw. This would also be why they've kept Reigns off the mic for the last few shows. No need to expose him further when backup was already in place.

Wolves4Life · 03-29-2015, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Ty Hope

Many dont like him, but Ive always enjoyed Scott Keiths reviews.

Does he have a Twitter?

Ty Hope · 03-30-2015, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Wolves4Life

Does he have a Twitter?

No idea. I read his stuff on insidepulse

03-29-2015, 11:27 PM	#13852
Ty Hope Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 6,866	One of the most well known wrestling analysts of the last 20+ years.

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gorillaz Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Posts: 10,903	just gonna set this here:

03-29-2015, 11:41 PM	#13858
gorillaz Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Posts: 10,903	Cena: a usual luchador high flyer

03-29-2015, 11:41 PM	#13859
Ty Hope Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 6,866	Rollins is over. From here forth, the potential for a GREAT heel is there too. Imagine when he eventually goes face? Much bigger star than RR.

03-29-2015, 11:43 PM	#13860
Wolves4Life Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 12,454	Let's bring this back. Orton never got his WM30 rematch. Reigns never got his guaranteed one on one title match Lesnar is owed a rematch. Orton beat Seth Reigns beat Seth Brock beat Seth. Brock vs Orton vs Rollins vs Reigns at Extreme Rules or does 1 of those matches happen on RAW?

03-29-2015, 11:44 PM	#13861
Ty Hope Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 6,866	No question in my mind that Vince was planning on RR going over. But even he knew the fans would crap all over him if he won. I wonder when this ending came to be. Doubt it was the plan all along. Love it though.

03-29-2015, 11:45 PM	#13863
dbackschamp2001 Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 2,368 parksandreselling Dbackschamp2001	Rollins has a unique look and personality. He stands out from the crowd more than Reigns does. I don't see him having longs runs with the title but could be in the title picture/main event for a long time. He could end up being similar to Edge.