**Official Luka Doncic Thread** - Page 557

Aramis · 11-19-2020, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by nxkard

The mavs couldn't have done better tonight.... Green was the ideal pick in that spot, Terry could be a spark off the bench, Richardson is another good 3&d guy who can take some of the creation burden off Luka. Really impressed with the front office. Currys shooting will be missed, but they added enough offense to more than replace it, while upgrading the defense significantly.

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You hit the nail right on the head! And I have a feeling it's not over yet, Friday free agency opens up, there will be some more additions to the Mavs roster.

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Hail2TheVictors · 11-19-2020, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by The_Reverend

Good Lord indeed....are we seeing people who are not in the hobby regularly just catching on to Luka mania or just big money sneakerboi’s expanding their collections. I think over the next month we will see a lot of “new” highs with Luka. Taking profits, never a bad thing, will be tougher when all PSA 10 Luka cards are $500 plus, even the paper. I already have my popcorn ready and have every intention of moving the lower grade stuff when it really takes off. No PSA 10’s will be leaving my collection and very few 9’s either.

Don't think it's sneakerboi's. People are realizing that Luka could have a Mahomes like trajectory in terms of hobby value with his cards. A lot of people want to reference championships, MVPs, etc and those are all great, and help card values. But here in 2020, hype and people flooding in to buy a certain player are huge factors. If I'm an investor, and maybe I've been focused on football and now basketball is around the corner. Who am I investing in? For me, that is a no brainer. Luka is at the top of my list, or at least in the top group.

There will reach a point, in 7-8 weeks, where Luka has to be putting up the numbers to keep prices moving north. But until then, I expect a LOT of people to jump on the Luka train. There is still so much potential here - but that doesn't come without risk, of course.

jmcca170 · 11-19-2020, 10:05 AM

I see some more moves coming too, but important to remember they won’t do anything to jeopardize the possibility of Giannis so I don’t think it would be anything too crazy.

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JoeAdam · 11-19-2020, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Hail2TheVictors

Don't think it's sneakerboi's. People are realizing that Luka could have a Mahomes like trajectory in terms of hobby value with his cards. A lot of people want to reference championships, MVPs, etc and those are all great, and help card values. But here in 2020, hype and people flooding in to buy a certain player are huge factors. If I'm an investor, and maybe I've been focused on football and now basketball is around the corner. Who am I investing in? For me, that is a no brainer. Luka is at the top of my list, or at least in the top group.

There will reach a point, in 7-8 weeks, where Luka has to be putting up the numbers to keep prices moving north. But until then, I expect a LOT of people to jump on the Luka train. There is still so much potential here - but that doesn't come without risk, of course.

To your point, I’d be nervous he doesn’t live up to this insane hype. Might be worth cashing in on this spike. I always get skeptical when everyone is saying “it can only go up” which is basically what this whole thread has become lol. Don’t get me wrong, I’m in Luka also and am hoping for the best.

Dnic · 11-19-2020, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by JoeAdam

To your point, I’d be nervous he doesn’t live up to this insane hype. Might be worth cashing in on this spike. I always get skeptical when everyone is saying “it can only go up” which is basically what this whole thread has become lol. Don’t get me wrong, I’m in Luka also and am hoping for the best.

Luka hype is already justified if you are nervous I'm a buyer of any Luka you have at a discount of course cause of the "nervous, skeptical" aspect you are referring to

JoeAdam · 11-19-2020, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Dnic

Luka hype is already justified if you are nervous I'm a buyer of any Luka you have at a discount of course cause of the "nervous, skeptical" aspect you are referring to

Definitely not selling at a discount. Just saying it’s not a bad idea to take some off the table during these spikes.

Timo · 11-19-2020, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Rowdy1854

First time I have gotten everything out that is in hand out at one time, even my 7 year old daughter that has no interest in cards got exited looking at them.

My goodness..

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Originally Posted by nxkard

The mavs couldn't have done better tonight.... Green was the ideal pick in that spot, Terry could be a spark off the bench, Richardson is another good 3&d guy who can take some of the creation burden off Luka. Really impressed with the front office. Currys shooting will be missed, but they added enough offense to more than replace it, while upgrading the defense significantly.

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100%, Mavs defense got sorely needed help in Richardson and Green. Both can hit the 3 at a decent clip too and I'd expect them to do even better with all the open looks Luka will give them. Love the Terry pick, reminds me of a young Seth Curry. Shot is pure.

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Originally Posted by jmcca170

I see some more moves coming too, but important to remember they won’t do anything to jeopardize the possibility of Giannis so I don’t think it would be anything too crazy.

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Yea, Nelson said the Mavs aren't done yet. Wonder if that means they'll go after Ibaka, or maybe Danilo in a S & T with OKC.

BRob1 · 11-19-2020, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Dnic

Luka hype is already justified if you are nervous I'm a buyer of any Luka you have at a discount of course cause of the "nervous, skeptical" aspect you are referring to

why do people always say “if you think it’s over priced I’ll buy at a discount” lol?

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Hail2TheVictors · 11-19-2020, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeAdam

To your point, I’d be nervous he doesn’t live up to this insane hype. Might be worth cashing in on this spike. I always get skeptical when everyone is saying “it can only go up” which is basically what this whole thread has become lol. Don’t get me wrong, I’m in Luka also and am hoping for the best.

He’s the first player I’ve invested in with a the idea of holding for a while. That’s how good of an investment I feel he is.

He averaged basically 29/9/9 as a 20/21 year old. And shot 46-47%. With how much he dominates the ball, the only downside I see here is him getting hurt. But even then he’s not a guy that relies on athleticism.

The thing that got me to finally invest is seeing a graphic back in May comparing his 20 year old numbers to lebron. His numbers were better, which is incredible.

There’s far more reward than risk here, imo.

jmcca170 · 11-19-2020, 01:40 PM

Barring serious injuries or him pulling an Andrew Luck (which kinda go hand in hand), he’s the absolute safest investment in sports over the next 5-10 years if not longer IMO

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beavers · 11-19-2020, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by jmcca170

Barring serious injuries or him pulling an Andrew Luck (which kinda go hand in hand), he’s the absolute safest investment in sports over the next 5-10 years if not longer IMO

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Whats really crazy is that he still isn't a household name. That is just more indication to his upside. I think that this is the year that everyone (specifically non-NBA fans) learns the name Luka Doncic. The hype and marketing machine will get into high gear and he will star growing into a pop culture icon.

BAHoopla · 11-19-2020, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by beavers

Whats really crazy is that he still isn't a household name. That is just more indication to his upside. I think that this is the year that everyone (specifically non-NBA fans) learns the name Luka Doncic. The hype and marketing machine will get into high gear and he will star growing into a pop culture icon.

That is not happening without a finals appearance. Luka fan too, but Zion is being touted as the new face of the NBA and he has the personality for that...IMO

jmcca170 · 11-19-2020, 02:10 PM

On ESPN’s sports in Covid commercial that plays every two minutes or so, it’s Luka’s bang bang that’s the signature moment everyone’s hanging their breath on. I agree that the American fan is the one that’s behind, which is crazy to think of in itself, but they will catch up. He and the Mavs will be much more mainstream than they ever were with Dirk and Nash

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Dnic · 11-19-2020, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by BAHoopla

That is not happening without a finals appearance. Luka fan too, but Zion is being touted as the new face of the NBA and he has the personality for that...IMO

Lol smh only face of a product Zion is touted for is the new pillsbury dough boy....

The_Reverend · 11-19-2020, 02:21 PM

Luka is a household name here, but soon, barring injury he will be know by fans everywhere. Normally I would say I was overextended, most with the exception of my blue Phoenix, paid under $300. Last week got raw Phoenix and crusade for $200 together. Both look grade worthy but have to examine them closely.

Akphillips86 · 11-19-2020, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by BAHoopla

That is not happening without a finals appearance. Luka fan too, but Zion is being touted as the new face of the NBA and he has the personality for that...IMO

There is plenty of room for both. I don’t view it as a zero sum game, especially because they are such different players. Luka is going to get plenty of love and deservedly so. I’d be willing to wager Zion will too after this season, but he’s gotta come in strong.

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BAHoopla · 11-19-2020, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Akphillips86

There is plenty of room for both. I don’t view it as a zero sum game, especially because they are such different players. Luka is going to get plenty of love and deservedly so. I’d be willing to wager Zion will too after this season, but he’s gotta come in strong.

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Always room for two and more. Luka is awesome, big fan here but so is Zion. I am just saying personality goes a long way as long as it is backed up with solid game play of course. Hopefully both shine.

BAHoopla · 11-19-2020, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Dnic

Lol smh only face of a product Zion is touted for is the new pillsbury dough boy....

Lol...you should just trade me that Luka we were discussing

Spacemanspif · 11-19-2020, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeAdam

Definitely not selling at a discount. Just saying it’s not a bad idea to take some off the table during these spikes.

I agree. We KNOW that things go up and down. you can always sell common stuff during spikes and buy back during lulls. a lesson I learned when not liquidating absolutely all Bass 10s during the summer

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Originally Posted by Hail2TheVictors

He’s the first player I’ve invested in with a the idea of holding for a while. That’s how good of an investment I feel he is.

He averaged basically 29/9/9 as a 20/21 year old. And shot 46-47%. With how much he dominates the ball, the only downside I see here is him getting hurt. But even then he’s not a guy that relies on athleticism.

The thing that got me to finally invest is seeing a graphic back in May comparing his 20 year old numbers to lebron. His numbers were better, which is incredible.

There’s far more reward than risk here, imo.

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Originally Posted by jmcca170

Barring serious injuries or him pulling an Andrew Luck (which kinda go hand in hand), he’s the absolute safest investment in sports over the next 5-10 years if not longer IMO

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So what is the price target? It's nice to talk about all his skills and security in being a top player, but you can't just say these things without the context of current pricing. Right now, a Giannis Prizm PSA 10 (POP 2387) goes for ~$4k. a Luka Silver PSA 10 (POP 1914) goes for $8k+. Is Luka already 2x more valuable than Giannis? Are there really "people who don't know Luka yet but has $10,000 to drop on a card" as some are suggesting? I spend a LOT of money on cards, but at current levels I'm not buying (except to fill out my stupid Chronicles collection).

Not saying you guys are wrong, and I have a ton of Luka I wouldn't mind see go up even more, but when everyone is shouting "room to grow" and "INVE$T" from the rooftops, it always sets off the warning sensors in my head

TSonn · 11-19-2020, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Hail2TheVictors

He’s the first player I’ve invested in with a the idea of holding for a while. That’s how good of an investment I feel he is.

He averaged basically 29/9/9 as a 20/21 year old. And shot 46-47%. With how much he dominates the ball, the only downside I see here is him getting hurt. But even then he’s not a guy that relies on athleticism.

The thing that got me to finally invest is seeing a graphic back in May comparing his 20 year old numbers to lebron. His numbers were better, which is incredible.

There’s far more reward than risk here, imo.

I saw the same graphic and it made me a believer. Sure, Luka will never have the flashy chase down blocks or ridiculous dunks like LeBron, but I'll guess he has more GW jumpers throughout his career which are even more exciting and legacy-defining.

The sky is the limit.

jackscards888 · 11-19-2020, 03:58 PM

Luka Courtside set a new record last night. Do you guys think this card can hit $10k?

sc29650 · 11-19-2020, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by jackscards888

Luka Courtside set a new record last night. Do you guys think this card can hit $10k?

Before the season starts, you heard it here first!

Ericc5Bears · 11-19-2020, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeAdam

Definitely not selling at a discount. Just saying it’s not a bad idea to take some off the table during these spikes.

I love Luka as well but totally agree with what you're saying. Just imagine what the official D Rose thread would've looked like after winning MVP and getting to the EFC at 22 years old...

Ericc5Bears · 11-19-2020, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Spacemanspif

I agree. We KNOW that things go up and down. you can always sell common stuff during spikes and buy back during lulls. a lesson I learned when not liquidating absolutely all Bass 10s during the summer

So what is the price target? It's nice to talk about all his skills and security in being a top player, but you can't just say these things without the context of current pricing. Right now, a Giannis Prizm PSA 10 (POP 2387) goes for ~$4k. a Luka Silver PSA 10 (POP 1914) goes for $8k+. Is Luka already 2x more valuable than Giannis? Are there really "people who don't know Luka yet but has $10,000 to drop on a card" as some are suggesting? I spend a LOT of money on cards, but at current levels I'm not buying (except to fill out my stupid Chronicles collection).

Not saying you guys are wrong, and I have a ton of Luka I wouldn't mind see go up even more, but when everyone is shouting "room to grow" and "INVE$T" from the rooftops, it always sets off the warning sensors in my head

Lol, you can't just compare a prizm base to a prizm silver just because the PSA 10 pops are similar.

yoyosh · 11-19-2020, 05:06 PM

I'd be curious to know many Luka's the stalwarts of this thread have tied up at PSA (or BGS).

I have ~25 Lukas @ PSA in bulk orders....most are lower level Status/Chronicles/Threads stuff.
A few nice low #'d 2nd year cards too.

How bout you guys? I know Rev has a ton!

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jmcca170 Member Join Date: Aug 2020 Posts: 803	I see some more moves coming too, but important to remember they won’t do anything to jeopardize the possibility of Giannis so I don’t think it would be anything too crazy. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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jmcca170 Member Join Date: Aug 2020 Posts: 803	Barring serious injuries or him pulling an Andrew Luck (which kinda go hand in hand), he’s the absolute safest investment in sports over the next 5-10 years if not longer IMO Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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jmcca170 Member Join Date: Aug 2020 Posts: 803	On ESPN’s sports in Covid commercial that plays every two minutes or so, it’s Luka’s bang bang that’s the signature moment everyone’s hanging their breath on. I agree that the American fan is the one that’s behind, which is crazy to think of in itself, but they will catch up. He and the Mavs will be much more mainstream than they ever were with Dirk and Nash Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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The_Reverend Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Texas Posts: 15,373 islubi	Luka is a household name here, but soon, barring injury he will be know by fans everywhere. Normally I would say I was overextended, most with the exception of my blue Phoenix, paid under $300. Last week got raw Phoenix and crusade for $200 together. Both look grade worthy but have to examine them closely.

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jackscards888 Member Join Date: Sep 2020 Posts: 99 jackscards888	Luka Courtside set a new record last night. Do you guys think this card can hit $10k?

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yoyosh Member Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: USA Posts: 4,398 partyauctions yoyosh	I'd be curious to know many Luka's the stalwarts of this thread have tied up at PSA (or BGS). I have ~25 Lukas @ PSA in bulk orders....most are lower level Status/Chronicles/Threads stuff. A few nice low #'d 2nd year cards too. How bout you guys? I know Rev has a ton!