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Old 11-20-2019, 11:04 PM   #1401
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Revolution is a GREAT looking card. I actually picked up the Chinese red version today for $15. My LCS has had the Chinese revolution boxes for $40 for a while now. They're tough to pass up at such a cheap price.


Nice! That’s a good price, would be fun to rip. I bought a box and those are nice cards.

For new collectors entering the Luka craze, I think revolution is a good starting point. It may not reach crazy stratosphere of optic or prizm, but its #’d parallels are obtainable as of now.


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Old 11-20-2019, 11:16 PM   #1402
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I can’t help but think his stuff is getting to the top and will pullback soon, but then the other part of me feels like there’s still a lot of room to grow.

Once Prizm is live for 2019-20 I could see his prices slightly slowing down, but who knows.


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Old 11-20-2019, 11:19 PM   #1403
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I can’t help but think his stuff is getting to the top and will pullback soon, but then the other part of me feels like there’s still a lot of room to grow.

Once Prizm is live for 2019-20 I could see his prices slightly slowing down, but who knows.


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There isn’t anyone playing well enough to draw attention away from Luka except LeBron. His Silver will be hot. Zion on the sideline and nobody else is doing much. I just don’t see money going away from Luka if he keeps doing this night after night.
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Old 11-20-2019, 11:36 PM   #1404
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I can’t help but think his stuff is getting to the top and will pullback soon, but then the other part of me feels like there’s still a lot of room to grow.

Once Prizm is live for 2019-20 I could see his prices slightly slowing down, but who knows.


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i am still a buyer! even today i picked up a pink ice, red ice, and green prizm and paid the going rate... but if those same cards sell tomorrow they will go for more than i paid today!
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Old 11-20-2019, 11:38 PM   #1405
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There isn’t anyone playing well enough to draw attention away from Luka except LeBron. His Silver will be hot. Zion on the sideline and nobody else is doing much. I just don’t see money going away from Luka if he keeps doing this night after night.
It's definitely a tough call. I am very tempted to list my cards tomorrow. I am shocked by some of the prices over the last hour. Part of me thinks it would be insane if prices went up anymore. But who knows lol
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Old 11-20-2019, 11:43 PM   #1406
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Where are his prices in relation to say Giannis?
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Old 11-20-2019, 11:47 PM   #1407
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Where are his prices in relation to say Giannis?
Luka is scorching hot right now(nuclear meltdown hot), Giannis was hot but not like this!
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Old 11-20-2019, 11:48 PM   #1408
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It's definitely a tough call. I am very tempted to list my cards tomorrow. I am shocked by some of the prices over the last hour. Part of me thinks it would be insane if prices went up anymore. But who knows lol
I feel you it’s pretty wild but idk justified in some ways, he had the best rookie season in last decade and is following it up with a 30 ppg triple double, that’s unheard of, granted we are in a different era. And he’s freaking 20
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Old 11-20-2019, 11:49 PM   #1409
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i am still a buyer! even today i picked up a pink ice, red ice, and green prizm and paid the going rate... but if those same cards sell tomorrow they will go for more than i paid today!
Nice!! Seems like you can still find good deals. Have to be real quick and hit the BIN seconds after they're listed though lol.

I just paid 200 total for Prizm Hyper, Blue Velocity and Select Tri Color. Think I got a pretty good deal!
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Old 11-20-2019, 11:51 PM   #1410
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Luka is scorching hot right now(nuclear meltdown hot), Giannis was hot but not like this!
I meant comparable cards.

Luka has gone up at a faster rate as the whole hobby has gone up with the high end grails reaching huge levels so people are using that as a measure of where Luka stuff might end up.

From my limited research, Luka stuff is a fair bit cheaper than Giannis stuff.

So I do not see Luka stuff as being at a peak atm. I think there will be peaks and troughs, of course, but the trend will be heading up for a little while yet, at least if Giannis prices are anything to go by.
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Old 11-21-2019, 12:01 AM   #1411
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Holo psa 10 just went for over $2100. Wow!
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Old 11-21-2019, 12:02 AM   #1412
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Old 11-21-2019, 12:15 AM   #1413
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prizm psa 10s going for 200 now? sheesh
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Old 11-21-2019, 12:15 AM   #1414
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I meant comparable cards.

Luka has gone up at a faster rate as the whole hobby has gone up with the high end grails reaching huge levels so people are using that as a measure of where Luka stuff might end up.

From my limited research, Luka stuff is a fair bit cheaper than Giannis stuff.

So I do not see Luka stuff as being at a peak atm. I think there will be peaks and troughs, of course, but the trend will be heading up for a little while yet, at least if Giannis prices are anything to go by.

Luka has only been in the league for 2 years v. Giannis who is now in his 6th year!

An example of a Luka v Giannis card would be Immaculate Patch Auto RC #/99. The Giannis last year booked at 5k and a month later (April to May) it went up to 10k BUT he was an top MVP contender! The card is condition sensitive though... it would be interesting to see what the Luka Immaculate Patch Auto RC #/99 go for once they are redeemed?
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Old 11-21-2019, 12:21 AM   #1415
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How long before the Luka 2018 Prizm silver surpasses Lebrons topps Chrome rc?
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Old 11-21-2019, 12:25 AM   #1416
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prizm psa 10s going for 200 now? sheesh
Giannis is $500+. I don't care how many there are, you can't tell me Lukas don't have room to grow at $200. Kid is insane.
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Old 11-21-2019, 12:26 AM   #1417
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I meant comparable cards.

Luka has gone up at a faster rate as the whole hobby has gone up with the high end grails reaching huge levels so people are using that as a measure of where Luka stuff might end up.

From my limited research, Luka stuff is a fair bit cheaper than Giannis stuff.

So I do not see Luka stuff as being at a peak atm. I think there will be peaks and troughs, of course, but the trend will be heading up for a little while yet, at least if Giannis prices are anything to go by.
I agree with this. Take for example Giannis gold prizm rc gem which sold for under 34k recently while Luka’s can probably be had for under 20k. Luka hasn’t even won an MVP yet or gotten voted to an allstar team and his cards can expect a similar if not greater bump in value since he is doing it at a much younger age
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Old 11-21-2019, 12:33 AM   #1418
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Luka has only been in the league for 2 years v. Giannis who is now in his 6th year!

An example of a Luka v Giannis card would be Immaculate Patch Auto RC #/99. The Giannis last year booked at 5k and a month later (April to May) it went up to 10k BUT he was an top MVP contender! The card is condition sensitive though... it would be interesting to see what the Luka Immaculate Patch Auto RC #/99 go for once they are redeemed?

a couple of points:

-Luka putting up monster numbers in his 2nd yr. Go look what Giannis was doing in his 2nd yr

-Luka is indeed a MVP contender.

Luka's cards are going up because people are projecting what he's going to be come. As you said, Giannis is Giannis 6yrs in. Imagine what Luka is going to look like in 4-5yrs time.
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Old 11-21-2019, 12:44 AM   #1419
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a couple of points:

-Luka putting up monster numbers in his 2nd yr. Go look what Giannis was doing in his 2nd yr

-Luka is indeed a MVP contender.

Luka's cards are going up because people are projecting what he's going to be come. As you said, Giannis is Giannis 6yrs in. Imagine what Luka is going to look like in 4-5yrs time.
Yeah but i think the point is it’s still speculation. I think he’s really good and I’m holding all his cards for now but extrapolating 12 games into 6 years is how you overpay for things. Of all players, I think he’s one of the safest to actually become the next generational talent, but when you start paying today’s dollars for potential and future performance is also how you end up paying Andrew Wiggins $40 million per year
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Old 11-21-2019, 12:51 AM   #1420
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Yeah but i think the point is it’s still speculation. I think he’s really good and I’m holding all his cards for now but extrapolating 12 games into 6 years is how you overpay for things. Of all players, I think he’s one of the safest to actually become the next generational talent, but when you start paying today’s dollars for potential and future performance is also how you end up paying Andrew Wiggins $40 million per year
This^

And I love Luka! Hell, I even told the LCS owner that Luka will be MVP in 2-3 years...
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Old 11-21-2019, 12:53 AM   #1421
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Yeah but i think the point is it’s still speculation. I think he’s really good and I’m holding all his cards for now but extrapolating 12 games into 6 years is how you overpay for things. Of all players, I think he’s one of the safest to actually become the next generational talent, but when you start paying today’s dollars for potential and future performance is also how you end up paying Andrew Wiggins $40 million per year

I guess my point is that his prices are still way below Giannis, so whilst his prices are high there is still significant room to grow IF he continues to not only improve but get personal and/or team accolades.

I think the thing with Luka stuff is how quickly it has all gone up. But, it makes sense when you take into account how quickly he has stepped up this yr. It's only in the last week or so that it seems the mainstream media are talking about Luka has an MVP contender, with the only thing potentially stopping him being how many games Dallas can win. He was obviously great last yr, but he has gone up a level this year and its kinda taken everyone by surprise.

As you said, people get a little afraid of paying for potential, as you can easily get burned doing that. I think the reason why Luka stuff has gone nuts in these last 2-4 weeks is because its now pretty clear that this aint just about potential. Hes already a superstar. This isn't a debate anymore.
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Old 11-21-2019, 01:16 AM   #1422
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The link below isn’t my card but I have one that’s graded 9 BGS. Currently away for work so I can’t take a picture right now.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2017-Upper-...-/233154087003

This is my most valuable card in my collection...lol. I know right now the most popular are the prizm silvers and optic holo. I’m debating if I should try to sell this and try to score a prizm silver with the proceeds plus some cash on my end. The good thing with the card I currently have is the auto and it seems to be rare. However, unlike the prizms, my card is not as liquid or fast to sell it seems. Not sure if it’s worth selling or holding this.
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Old 11-21-2019, 01:20 AM   #1423
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Mavs play Cavs on Friday night. Expect more ridiculous numbers from Luka
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Old 11-21-2019, 01:32 AM   #1424
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I guess my point is that his prices are still way below Giannis, so whilst his prices are high there is still significant room to grow IF he continues to not only improve but get personal and/or team accolades.

I think the thing with Luka stuff is how quickly it has all gone up. But, it makes sense when you take into account how quickly he has stepped up this yr. It's only in the last week or so that it seems the mainstream media are talking about Luka has an MVP contender, with the only thing potentially stopping him being how many games Dallas can win. He was obviously great last yr, but he has gone up a level this year and its kinda taken everyone by surprise.

As you said, people get a little afraid of paying for potential, as you can easily get burned doing that. I think the reason why Luka stuff has gone nuts in these last 2-4 weeks is because its now pretty clear that this aint just about potential. Hes already a superstar. This isn't a debate anymore.
it's not, but it's also not a fair comparison to use Base Giannis against Base Luka. I don't know the production run of Giannis, or how many hundreds, if not thousands of them were thrown away / damaged by people not knowing who he was back then, but I'd bet the 3:1 ratio of Luka to Giannis PSA 10s is real, in which case even if the demand is the same (if they're battling H2H for MVP for the next 5 years), the supply is way different and the price difference is justified.

I'm admittedly a cynical person, but when I look at stocks that jump 10-20% in a day, I don't think, "WOW, that company did awesome this quarter!". I think, wow, these analysts are dumb for not pricing this in as a possibility, and/or there will be a pullback tomorrow.

We had all summer knowing that 1) he was clearly the best in a strong class and 2) he had an excellent chance of becoming a superstar and 3) the price remained somewhat constant, so obviously we the market felt it was fair. 0so, when his price jumps 100% in a month, and people are screaming "BUY BUY", I just want to give people caution and not have them cleaning out their sales accounts for some cardboard.

All that said, $200-300 might be sustainable for the 6000+ base PSA 10s out there, and $1-1.2k for silvers, but asking for $600 & $2k on high volume isn't something I'd be telling people to expect
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Old 11-21-2019, 01:35 AM   #1425
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yes, agree with your point about silver giannis vs luka d.t the differing print runs.

im more talking about things like next day autos, NT RPA's etc etc
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