2020 Politics Thread - Enter At Your Own Risk - RULES IN OP

[fulltritty]

Originally Posted by Brobocop

Comparing Regan who was a governor to Trump is a bit ridiculous. Also, Trump has plenty of business failures and one can argue that he isn’t nearly as successful as some people want you to believe. He’s had his wins too but honestly, he was mostly known as a reality show host by large swaths of the country prior to winning the presidency.

But still an actor most of his life rather than a politician.

As for the second part, I would agree if you mean with young people who weren't old enough to live through the 1980s and early 1990s. Trump and Merv Griffin were probably the two greatest real estate moguls of the time.

[fulltritty]

Originally Posted by Kingofkings1281

Trump has done a decent enough job, but I’d kind of chill on the whole successful businessman thing.

While he has had his failures like a lot of businessmen, he has by far had more successes than failures.

[Timmay]

Originally Posted by Jacquo1972

[fulltritty]

Originally Posted by Timmay

That law is all about labor and jobs. They think you should pay stupid people to pump your gas.

And now with those States passing $15 and up minimum wage, you gas cost will go up more to pay people to pump it which you do yourself in 48 other States.

[fulltritty]

Originally Posted by discostu

Any state or federal agency find any voter fraud to necessitate voter ID laws?

Trump did all he could before the election to claim that there would be fraud, to protect his ego if he lost.

He won, but lost the popular vote and made up a number to protect his ego.

He then launched a committee to investigate it with local secretaries of state to uncover this rampant voter fraud.

That fell apart.

Here we are, it's 2020 and there's still zero indication or evidence of this organized voter fraud.

Republicans kill bills trying to thwart foreign interference where there are piles of evidence from Trump's own appointees...because it doesn't include voter ID laws.

This is America.

We're number 1!

Can I get a USA chant in this house?

How about an encore of Lock Her Up!

It fell apart because those same Democratic States that a majority of people suspect have dead people or illegals voting Democrat sued the administration and/or failed to comply. I wonder what they were hiding?

[discostu]

Trump's greatest skill is what he called, "truthful hyperbole. It’s an innocent form of exaggeration — and a very effective form of promotion.”

He's fantastic at it and always has been. This "truthful hyperbole" helped him sell the perception that he was a top NYC real estate mogul. He wasn't, but he sold and sells himself as such.

He's a master at marketing himself, his name.

Once he got into the White House, "truthful hyperbole" turned into "alternative facts."

Add in some serious gaslighting and here we are.

He goes where the most committed crowd goes.

[rcmb3220]

Originally Posted by cnewby

Then who's gonna make me a sammich?

Come on now, we know the only person making you a sandwich is you.

[discostu]

Originally Posted by fulltritty

It fell apart because those same Democratic States that a majority of people suspect have dead people or illegals voting Democrat sued the administration and/or failed to comply. I wonder what they were hiding?

It's a neat narrative, not true, but neat nonetheless.

Red and Blue states were hiding behind their own state laws.

Kris Kobach, the clown who whispered sweet voter fraud nothings into Trump's ear, was the Secretary of State of Kansas and served as the Vice Chair to this silly committee. Kobach himself was unable to comply with all of the requests.

It turned up nothing other than embarrassment and failure.

The notion of wide swathes of voter fraud was a charade, dare I say "a hoax."

Nothing more.

[Dielon]

Originally Posted by discostu

Trump's greatest skill is what he called, "truthful hyperbole. It’s an innocent form of exaggeration — and a very effective form of promotion.”

He's fantastic at it and always has been. This "truthful hyperbole" helped him sell the perception that he was a top NYC real estate mogul. He wasn't, but he sold and sells himself as such.

He's a master at marketing himself, his name.

Once he got into the White House, "truthful hyperbole" turned into "alternative facts."

Add in some serious gaslighting and here we are.

He goes where the most committed crowd goes.

To be honest all great politicians are good at this. Obama was great at it too.

[Brobocop]

Originally Posted by fulltritty

But still an actor most of his life rather than a politician.

As for the second part, I would agree if you mean with young people who weren't old enough to live through the 1980s and early 1990s. Trump and Merv Griffin were probably the two greatest real estate moguls of the time.

Um, Regan was still a two term governor of one of the largest states in the country. He also was involved with the GOP machine prior to that. And if you need me to go back to the 80's to see Trump as a successful businessman then you are in some ways admitting that in his last 20-30 years, he's done better making his name into a brand than actually creating businesses.

[Boo]

Originally Posted by Brobocop

Um, Regan was still a two term governor of one of the largest states in the country. He also was involved with the GOP machine prior to that. And if you need me to go back to the 80's to see Trump as a successful businessman then you are in some ways admitting that in his last 20-30 years, he's done better making his name into a brand than actually creating businesses.

ReAgan

[Jacquo1972]

Originally Posted by Brobocop

Um, Regan was still a two term governor of one of the largest states in the country. He also was involved with the GOP machine prior to that. And if you need me to go back to the 80's to see Trump as a successful businessman then you are in some ways admitting that in his last 20-30 years, he's done better making his name into a brand than actually creating businesses.

So the guy thinking some dude tucking his dong and whizzing in the girls room is cool doesn't think a billionaire is successful. You should see my shocked face.

[cnewby]

Originally Posted by rcmb3220

Come on now, we know the only person making you a sandwich is you.

I don't even like sammiches.

[Dielon]

We are in luck- Greta Thunberg is getting her own BBC series! Derp

[Jacquo1972]

Originally Posted by Dielon

We are in luck- Greta Thunberg is getting her own BBC series! Derp

Greta's Father

[Ray27Ray52]

It trips me out that we live in a world where people actually believe that there are more than two genders. This planet is strange.

[cnewby]

Originally Posted by pac213up

Basically because there is only one significant Conservative news network to watch. Liberals can chose between several and the ratings get split.

All the same networks existed 10 years ago when the liberal networks ALL had higher ratings. So I reject your hypothesis.

[pac213up]

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...oval-6179.html

[pac213up]

Originally Posted by cnewby

All the same networks existed 10 years ago when the liberal networks ALL had higher ratings. So I reject your hypothesis.

Except no they didn't.

https://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/sd...y-july-1-2009/

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/fox-n...s-rec_n_406325

[Dielon]

Originally Posted by Jacquo1972

Greta's Father

Here is the thing about Greta- she is literally the worst person to pull people in towards the issue of climate change. Which I do believe in, I just think nobody has a serious answer besides 'we have to do...something!'. However the practice of throwing kids out in front of a serious social/political issue...people see through this. Abortion nuts...think of the children, gun grabbers think of the children, climate change, think of the children. I know this may seem cold but this doesn't convince people. I feel sorry for her to be honest because she is not living a normal kid life. She literally uses every progressive talking point in the book- capitalism- patriarchy- renewables, and does it with a scolding, doomsday tone. Of course nuclear power she poo poos, because this is a political move and she doesn't care about the environment. This is why people can't take this kid seriously.

[cnewby]

Originally Posted by pac213up

Except no they didn't.

https://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/sd...y-july-1-2009/

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/fox-n...s-rec_n_406325

So where do I see the ratings from a recent date?

[fulltritty]

Originally Posted by jdandns

Oh, no. The sun has gone bankrupt six times with a seventh on the way.
Run for your lives, everyone!

You do realize that Donald Trump has never declared personal bankruptcy in his life? Six of his companies have declared bankruptcy which is pretty common in this country for businesses to do so they can restructure debt, get out of bad contracts with employees, issues with recessions, etc. Most of your automotive companies have gone declared bankruptcy.

Five of his company bankruptcies all had to do with his casinos in New Jersey. Having grown up in New Jersey, everything went to crap with the casinos in Atlantic City due to union labor contracts, recessions, high taxes collected by Trenton and sent back to North Jersey, other States passing laws to open casinos of their own, and the lucrative casinos open by the Native American tribes. When Atlantic City thrived your only choice for gambling was Vegas and AC.

[fulltritty]

Originally Posted by Brobocop

So you hate Democrats because a few have fought for a person who identifies one way to use the bathroom of their identified sex. But you don't hate the Church even though there is hard evidence of a concentrated effort to cover up sexual assaults that spanned decades? Um what?

The bathroom debate is tired. Honestly, I've never heard of a single instance where a man assaulted a young girl in a woman's restroom where said man identified as a woman. Vice versa as well. But hey, gotta make stuff up when you don't have facts and evidence to back your claims up. Culture of fear is alive and well.

Well, it happened in Scotland, but I'm sure that is not good enough for you.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/paren...oman-paul-bois

[fulltritty]

Originally Posted by Ray27Ray52

It trips me out that we live in a world where people actually believe that there are more than two genders. This planet is strange.

It's because we closed all of the lunatic asylums.

[Siberian13]

Originally Posted by fulltritty

It's because we closed all of the lunatic asylums.

California and Florida are still open