***The Official New York Yankees Thread*** - Page 575

carlo16 · 07-21-2023, 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by fulltritty

Torre was still the best manager. They should have never let him go.

Agreed 100%
How did Torre ever manage to win with
Jeter
Posada
Bernie
Oneill
Martinez
Rivera
Cone
Key
Soriano
Petite
Boggs
Raines
Clemens
Man was a magician.

fulltritty · 07-21-2023, 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by carlo16

Agreed 100%
How did Torre ever manage to win with
Jeter
Posada
Bernie
Oneill
Martinez
Rivera
Cone
Key
Soriano
Petite
Boggs
Raines
Clemens
Man was a magician.

It wasn't just the talent he had. He always seemed to make the right moves in game, he treated all of the players the same, he never fed BS to the media. etc.

carlo16 · 07-21-2023, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by fulltritty

It wasn't just the talent he had. He always seemed to make the right moves in game, he treated all of the players the same, he never fed BS to the media. etc.

Easy to make the right moves when you have a stable full of thoroughbreds. When Torre looks at his bench and it’s David Justice, Darryl Strawberry and Tim Raines it’s easy to look like a genius when his move leads to a pinch hit double. Who’s Boone have to send up in the 8th with one out guy on second?

JRX · 07-21-2023, 09:00 AM

Torre also didn't have an analytics team telling him what to do. They ran out pretty much the same lineup for 5+ years.

carlo16 · 07-21-2023, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by JRX

Torre also didn't have an analytics team telling him what to do. They ran out pretty much the same lineup for 5+ years.

True and I firmly believe that is happening now. That said, a better team probably would have a more consistent order in the lineup.

Happy to see that you know that this team is not the fault of Boone.

JRX · 07-21-2023, 09:11 AM

Cashman is incapable of building a lineup. This team hasn't had a real leadoff hitter since I can't really remember. And I don't mean a stolen base threat just a guy who you pencil in everyday to be the leadoff hitter. Look at Braves and Dodgers, its not a question who is leading off.

Mandy1320 · 07-21-2023, 09:53 AM

I am 99% certain that the Yanks will sweep or win this series against KC. They'll show "signs of life" and the narrative will force itself in a more positive direction, and the front office will continue to operate as normal. Probably add an underwhelming piece or two in the next couple of weeks, Judge will be back for the Mets series, Nestor returns shortly after, and they will start to go into 'playoff mode' before you know it. Same thing will happen next year and the year after....

IF they lose this Royals series at home, may God have mercy on their souls.

JRX · 07-21-2023, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Mandy1320

I am 99% certain that the Yanks will sweep or win this series against KC. They'll show "signs of life" and the narrative will force itself in a more positive direction, and the front office will continue to operate as normal. Probably add an underwhelming piece or two in the next couple of weeks, Judge will be back for the Mets series, Nestor returns shortly after, and they will start to go into 'playoff mode' before you know it. Same thing will happen next year and the year after....

IF they lose this Royals series at home, may God have mercy on their souls.

Yeah if they look lifeless vs the Royals they should change the locks on Cashman's office.

PeteD · 07-21-2023, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by SethMurphy

Is it Giants season yet....... I'm ready for football

Training camps are opening up just in time during the hottest summer on record.

JRX · 07-21-2023, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by PeteD

Training camps are opening up just in time during the hottest summer on record.

Hasn't been the hottest in the northeast. Hasn't even really hit 90 that many days.

fulltritty · 07-21-2023, 12:21 PM

Is Yankees' potential plan to extend Harrison Bader becoming less of a reality?

https://yanksgoyard.com/posts/yankee...y-01h5sy8ynar0

JRX · 07-21-2023, 12:23 PM

He's only played over 100 games, mind you not 140, 100 3 times in his career. He should basically only be given a 1yr deal with a team option. Let someone else waste money locking him up long term.

fulltritty · 07-21-2023, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by JRX

He's only played over 100 games, mind you not 140, 100 3 times in his career. He should basically only be given a 1yr deal with a team option. Let someone else waste money locking him up long term.

Yes, lest he become Ellsbury and Hicks 2.0.

Mandy1320 · 07-21-2023, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by fulltritty

Is Yankees' potential plan to extend Harrison Bader becoming less of a reality?

https://yanksgoyard.com/posts/yankee...y-01h5sy8ynar0

I'd give him a 2 year $10m (5 AAV) deal. GG OF defense is good enough for me. Anything more than that and I'm out.

carlo16 · 07-21-2023, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by JRX

He's only played over 100 games, mind you not 140, 100 3 times in his career. He should basically only be given a 1yr deal with a team option. Let someone else waste money locking him up long term.

The Bader love affair shows how bad this team is. I don’t know what war says but this guy would be lucky to be Brett Gardner and you’d think he was Willie Mays.

fulltritty · 07-21-2023, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by carlo16

The Bader love affair shows how bad this team is. I don’t know what war says but this guy would be lucky to be Brett Gardner and you’d think he was Willie Mays.

Here's your free agent outfield class. Who do you suggest they pursue to play center field and left field?

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Outfield: Harrison Bader, Cody Bellinger, Charlie Blackmon, Michael Brantley, Mark Canha (club option), Michael Conforto (opt-out), Adam Duvall, Joey Gallo, Randal Grichuk, Robbie Grossman, Teoscar Hernández, Max Kepler (club option), Kevin Kiermaier, Andrew McCutchen, Wil Myers, Joc Pederson, David Peralta, Tommy Pham, AJ Pollock, Jurickson Profar, Hunter Renfroe, Victor Robles (club option), Eddie Rosario (club option), Jorge Soler (opt-out), Michael A. Taylor, Jesse Winker

fulltritty · 07-21-2023, 12:55 PM

Oh and since some hated Benintendi so much and didn't want to re-sign him, if he was signed and playing left field for the Yankees this year, he'd have the second highest batting average after Judge; missing only 7 games this year.

hxcmilkshake · 07-21-2023, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by fulltritty

Here's your free agent outfield class. Who do you suggest they pursue to play center field and left field?

Trade. Like they did for Bader.

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SethMurphy · 07-21-2023, 02:06 PM

Get me Kiermaier

resurgence in Toronto this year, 3 Gold Gloves, left handed bat

I know he's not a star or complete difference maker, but I think he'd be cheaper than Bader, and create more flexibility.

hxcmilkshake · 07-21-2023, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by SethMurphy

Get me Kiermaier

resurgence in Toronto this year, 3 Gold Gloves, left handed bat

I know he's not a star or complete difference maker, but I think he'd be cheaper than Bader, and create more flexibility.

I'm ok with that. Bader is probably gonna get 4yrs. Too long.

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carlo16 · 07-21-2023, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by fulltritty

Here's your free agent outfield class. Who do you suggest they pursue to play center field and left field?

Not saying I want him but Bellinger will be a Yankee.

marl1220 · 07-21-2023, 02:39 PM

Trevino out with a major wrist injury.

Austin Wells called up to AAA.

marl1220 · 07-21-2023, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by carlo16

Not saying I want him but Bellinger will be a Yankee.

carlo16 · 07-21-2023, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by marl1220

Hahaha this is probably appropriate but get ready.

marl1220 · 07-21-2023, 02:51 PM

They just announced Trevino is out for the rest of the season.

07-21-2023, 02:06 PM	#14369
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07-21-2023, 09:00 AM	#14354
JRX Member Join Date: May 2020 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 15,345	Torre also didn't have an analytics team telling him what to do. They ran out pretty much the same lineup for 5+ years.

07-21-2023, 09:11 AM	#14356
JRX Member Join Date: May 2020 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 15,345	Cashman is incapable of building a lineup. This team hasn't had a real leadoff hitter since I can't really remember. And I don't mean a stolen base threat just a guy who you pencil in everyday to be the leadoff hitter. Look at Braves and Dodgers, its not a question who is leading off.

07-21-2023, 09:53 AM	#14357
Mandy1320 Member Join Date: Aug 2020 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 2,662 marande-5259	I am 99% certain that the Yanks will sweep or win this series against KC. They'll show "signs of life" and the narrative will force itself in a more positive direction, and the front office will continue to operate as normal. Probably add an underwhelming piece or two in the next couple of weeks, Judge will be back for the Mets series, Nestor returns shortly after, and they will start to go into 'playoff mode' before you know it. Same thing will happen next year and the year after.... IF they lose this Royals series at home, may God have mercy on their souls.

07-21-2023, 12:21 PM	#14361
fulltritty Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: King George, VA Posts: 75,577	Is Yankees' potential plan to extend Harrison Bader becoming less of a reality? https://yanksgoyard.com/posts/yankee...y-01h5sy8ynar0

07-21-2023, 12:23 PM	#14362
JRX Member Join Date: May 2020 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 15,345	He's only played over 100 games, mind you not 140, 100 3 times in his career. He should basically only be given a 1yr deal with a team option. Let someone else waste money locking him up long term.

07-21-2023, 12:55 PM	#14367
fulltritty Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: King George, VA Posts: 75,577	Oh and since some hated Benintendi so much and didn't want to re-sign him, if he was signed and playing left field for the Yankees this year, he'd have the second highest batting average after Judge; missing only 7 games this year.

07-21-2023, 02:39 PM	#14372
marl1220 Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 9,554	Trevino out with a major wrist injury. Austin Wells called up to AAA.

07-21-2023, 02:51 PM	#14375
marl1220 Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 9,554	They just announced Trevino is out for the rest of the season.