2019-20 Donruss Optic Fanatics-Exclusive Factory Set

[Timo]

Originally Posted by ohio_mba

Oh well that is great! You all want your mind blown? Here it goes...……..

So in December, back when coupons were still working on these, I had 23 of these sets on order for $1,271.00 (so on average I paid $55 per set).

I ended up cancelling every one of the sets I had ordered. I was part of the "they are printing too many and there will be no demand" crowd.

So for arguments sake let's just say I would sell all 23 sets for an average of $250 per.

Gross sales (23 x $250) = $5,750
Total Cost = $1,271

I could've netted close to $4,500 (probably closer to $4,300 after fees, shipping, etc.)

I only got 4 sets myself. I will admit that I wanted to get more but the "too many sets being printed" posts really discouraged me.

[blackbears86]

I only ordered two sets. If they come mint I'll keep them sealed. If they come banged up: OPEN

[mnvikingstwins]

Anybody have any of the lower end rookies or vets they'd want lots of 20 of in advance? Have mine coming tomorrow

[mnvikingstwins]

Originally Posted by ohio_mba

How and why what? Haha I've got an answer just not sure what you're asking.

That for being an MBA you came to conclusion they were a bad buy

[jkl165116]

I just bit on blowouts offer at $240 per for my 15 boxes. Held strong while everyone was cancelling so cant hang on anymore for when these hit 300-400. Averaged 55ish on my boxes too

[LTLurker]

Originally Posted by jkl165116

I just bit on blowouts offer at $240 per for my 15 boxes. Held strong while everyone was cancelling so cant hang on anymore for when these hit 300-400. Averaged 55ish on my boxes too

Can’t knock easy (and about $2800) profits


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[Asian62150]

I opened one box and the cards were in random order. Anyone know if the cards are in that same order or completely random every time?

Thinking about selling a box to my LCS and he was gonna do a random spot draft. Just wanted to make sure things are on the up and up.

Thanks!

[phil]

Originally Posted by jkl165116

I just bit on blowouts offer at $240 per for my 15 boxes. Held strong while everyone was cancelling so cant hang on anymore for when these hit 300-400. Averaged 55ish on my boxes too

I seriously doubt many (if any) cancelled orders bought with the coupon.

This is the one thing I am stashing since I think they will be $400 by Oct. if not sooner. They might be $500+ by then.

[LTLurker]

Alright - I finally broke the fanatics set that was badly dinged. RIP Goran Dragic and a couple other cards. Luckily Lebron/Luka and co didn't get dented from it.

Green Pack:
Ja (70/30 ugh)
Keldon Johnson
Dylan Windler
Isaiah Roby
Nicolo Melli

Zion/Ja Silver look 55/45 (to my wishful eye). Probably more 60/40.

Can a 3rd party here give me the bad news on my Zion/Ja?

[ichirorox]

Originally Posted by LTLurker

Alright - I finally broke the fanatics set that was badly dinged. RIP Goran Dragic and a couple other cards. Luckily Lebron/Luka and co didn't get dented from it.

Green Pack:
Ja (70/30 ugh)
Keldon Johnson
Dylan Windler
Isaiah Roby
Nicolo Melli

Zion/Ja Silver look 55/45 (to my wishful eye). Probably more 60/40.

Can a 3rd party here give me the bad news on my Zion/Ja?

Silvers aren't perfect, but good enough to get PSA 10

[Orangejello727]

I opened up one set. Just my luck.. The Zion and Ja Morant are perfectly centred but have a massive printers line on the front. FML

[ohio_mba]

Originally Posted by mnvikingstwins

That for being an MBA you came to conclusion they were a bad buy

Let me fix that for you.

Originally Posted by mnvikingstwins

How someone having an MBA would come to the conclusion that these were a bad buy.

Now I understand.

A number of reasons really.

1. Holding almost $1,300 in credit card debt for four months (at the time these were projected to ship in April 2020) is not a smart gamble. No one could've predicted these would be worth 4.5 times what I paid. What if they were only worth the original $79.99? Is a $500 profit worth waiting four months? Nope.

2. Many things could've happened before receiving the sets. Zion could've crapped the bed during the span of time I would've had to wait (still assuming April ship date).

3. These were being restocked thousands at a time. Had these been stocked once, I would've rolled with it. If my second point above would've happened, then several thousand of these would flood the market at the same time and I could lose money.

4. I also asked myself if I would be okay if it turned out these sold for really good money. The answer was "yes". At the end of the day, not losing money is better than a percentage chance at gaining. I would still take it a little hard but ultimately I'd be fine.

5. Also, I wanted to keep as much credit as possible available for Optic retail. I knew that was around the corner and would be a guaranteed profit in a shorter amount of time.

[ndleo]

After reading all of the recent posts, is the smart money holding for now? The quick buck offer would be nice, but I don't need the money right now.

My sets are coming next week and they will soon be sitting on my shelf tormenting me to do something.

[Brobocop]

Originally Posted by ohio_mba

Let me fix that for you.



Now I understand.

A number of reasons really.

1. Holding almost $1,300 in credit card debt for four months (at the time these were projected to ship in April 2020) is not a smart gamble. No one could've predicted these would be worth 4.5 times what I paid. What if they were only worth the original $79.99? Is a $500 profit worth waiting four months? Nope.

2. Many things could've happened before receiving the sets. Zion could've crapped the bed during the span of time I would've had to wait (still assuming April ship date).

3. These were being restocked thousands at a time. Had these been stocked once, I would've rolled with it. If my second point above would've happened, then several thousand of these would flood the market at the same time and I could lose money.

4. I also asked myself if I would be okay if it turned out these sold for really good money. The answer was "yes". At the end of the day, not losing money is better than a percentage chance at gaining. I would still take it a little hard but ultimately I'd be fine.

5. Also, I wanted to keep as much credit as possible available for Optic retail. I knew that was around the corner and would be a guaranteed profit in a shorter amount of time.

If you are buying trading cards on credit and not paying off your balance immediately then you shouldn't be buying trading cards. That's just my take. These were never a bad buy because you could have always returned them if they dropped in price. Unethical, probably.

[pejc300]

Originally Posted by ndleo

After reading all of the recent posts, is the smart money holding for now? The quick buck offer would be nice, but I don't need the money right now.

My sets are coming next week and they will soon be sitting on my shelf tormenting me to do something.

I have yet to see a product with Zion decrease. The opposite has been true of each and every sealed product. This product has guarantees of beautiful parallels of the two best rookies in the most popular (or second most popular) product there is, plus an opportunity at a monster green parallel.

More and more of these sets are being broken every day. They are condition sensitive. As safe as an "investment" you can have right now.

[Brobocop]

Originally Posted by ndleo

After reading all of the recent posts, is the smart money holding for now? The quick buck offer would be nice, but I don't need the money right now.

My sets are coming next week and they will soon be sitting on my shelf tormenting me to do something.

That's what I am doing. If Blowout already upped their offer from $210 to $240 that tells me they know something that we might not. I'm sure they are not in the business of only breaking even. Plus, it seems like more people are breaking them than holding them but that could just be a very small sample size.

[notfast]

Originally Posted by ohio_mba

Let me fix that for you.



Now I understand.

A number of reasons really.

1. Holding almost $1,300 in credit card debt for four months (at the time these were projected to ship in April 2020) is not a smart gamble. No one could've predicted these would be worth 4.5 times what I paid. What if they were only worth the original $79.99? Is a $500 profit worth waiting four months? Nope.

2. Many things could've happened before receiving the sets. Zion could've crapped the bed during the span of time I would've had to wait (still assuming April ship date).

3. These were being restocked thousands at a time. Had these been stocked once, I would've rolled with it. If my second point above would've happened, then several thousand of these would flood the market at the same time and I could lose money.

4. I also asked myself if I would be okay if it turned out these sold for really good money. The answer was "yes". At the end of the day, not losing money is better than a percentage chance at gaining. I would still take it a little hard but ultimately I'd be fine.

5. Also, I wanted to keep as much credit as possible available for Optic retail. I knew that was around the corner and would be a guaranteed profit in a shorter amount of time.

Whatever you have to tell yourself.

[gomiamigo]

Opened 1 of my 5 boxes and the Zion and Ja are well-centered with no printer's lines. May have to look at the other 4 now.

I've been lucky with these 'retail' products last year and this year no printer's lines on Luka or Zion yet.

[Spacemanspif]

Originally Posted by Brobocop

That's what I am doing. If Blowout already upped their offer from $210 to $240 that tells me they know something that we might not. I'm sure they are not in the business of only breaking even. Plus, it seems like more people are breaking them than holding them but that could just be a very small sample size.

Supply and demand. Look what they’ve done to the market this year by hoarding and controlling the market price. Like you said, probably half of the sets have been opened at this point, and there were what, <10k made? I think the educated guess was 7,000. If they end up with like 10% of the remaining supply it’ll be easy to dictate market value. Honestly when you can easily grab $100 for Zion, $50 for Ja, $75 for the green pack, buying in the low $200s is a no brainer for anyone

[notfast]

I just sent a RCR 10 Ja and RCR 9.5 Zion base to BGS. Hopefully have them back in a week or two.

Don't plan on opening the other sets I have since I already made my $ back on the ones I sold. Curious on what the first'ish BGS gems sell for.

[mnvikingstwins]

Originally Posted by Spacemanspif

Supply and demand. Look what they’ve done to the market this year by hoarding and controlling the market price. Like you said, probably half of the sets have been opened at this point, and there were what, <10k made? I think the educated guess was 7,000. If they end up with like 10% of the remaining supply it’ll be easy to dictate market value. Honestly when you can easily grab $100 for Zion, $50 for Ja, $75 for the green pack, buying in the low $200s is a no brainer for anyone

no damn way that half have been opened

[ichirorox]

Originally Posted by ohio_mba

1. Holding almost $1,300 in credit card debt for four months (at the time these were projected to ship in April 2020) is not a smart gamble. No one could've predicted these would be worth 4.5 times what I paid. What if they were only worth the original $79.99? Is a $500 profit worth waiting four months? Nope.

If you told me that I could invest $1300 and set it and forget it for 4 months and come up with $500 profit on that $1300 (38.5% gain), I would put my entire life savings in it...

[Ober12]

Originally Posted by pejc300

This dude broke 20 sets and sold the rookies in lots of 20. His total sale of the 50 rookies (x2) was $5,233

https://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?_odk...atics&_sacat=0

$5233/20 = $261 for the 50 rookies per set. Add in:

Lebron = $15
Luka = $5
Giannis = $5
Green Pack = $70

Total = $356 on average plus whatever the rest of the set would sell for ($40?)

These are breaking at $400. They seem real reasonable to me at $250 right now. I realize if you're shipping 50 individual cards that eats into all of your profit. But still. And he didn't grade any.

I sold my second box to that guy yesterday, it helped my decision a lot that he had broken so much of that product already - it seemed much less likely that he would return the box for whatever reason. I probably left some money on the table as compared to ripping and selling singles, but I'm happy with essentially a whole free set and some extra cash to pick up singles from other products

[Brobocop]

Originally Posted by ichirorox

If you told me that I could invest $1300 and set it and forget it for 4 months and come up with $500 profit on that $1300 (38.5% gain), I would put my entire life savings in it...

Relatively risk free mind you.

[notfast]

Originally Posted by ichirorox

If you told me that I could invest $1300 and set it and forget it for 4 months and come up with $500 profit on that $1300 (38.5% gain), I would put my entire life savings in it...

Exactly. Dude is just trying to make himself feel better.