2020 Politics Thread - Enter At Your Own Risk - RULES IN OP - Page 587

rman112 · 05-19-2020, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by GeechQuest

Would it matter, or are you on the "Republican" side of the scores and need me to explain the difference between micro and macro...

We need some emotional intelligence tests. Having a high IQ, or even a degree or three doesn't seem to be any barrier for the 'TDS' folks.

rman112 · 05-19-2020, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by pac213up

Last election I voted 3rd party. Previous 4 elections I have gone back and forth. Basically at this point I like to see a balance of power between both parties as I feel like too much of either is not a good thing.

It gets complicated when both parties produce these types of candidates for President though.

What is the point of voting third party? I never understood it. If you know the person you're voting for will never win, then what's the point? Why even vote at all?

tpeichel34 · 05-19-2020, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by rocketfan86

What does one do when you are moderate on a lot of major issues but cannot stand what either major political party has become?

Vote Trump into office.

ilovethelakings · 05-19-2020, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by rman112

What is the point of voting third party? I never understood it. If you know the person you're voting for will never win, then what's the point? Why even vote at all?

Why vote third party? Because it's better to go down swinging than not to swing at all.

GeechQuest · 05-19-2020, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by rman112

We need some emotional intelligence tests. Having a high IQ, or even a degree or three doesn't seem to be any barrier for the 'TDS' folks.

I'd say low scores across the board in that regard.

If you care tooooooooooo much, you need to chill. Both ends of the spectrum. All idiots.

tpeichel34 · 05-19-2020, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ilovethelakings

Why vote third party? Because it's better to go down swinging than not to swing at all.

Yep, voting third party means you are counted as a voter but neither major party earns your vote. It sends a message.

Clinton/Bush/Obama were all neocon globalists and ended up being very similar. What difference did it really make voting for any of them? They tried to get us to vote Clinton/Bush again, but Americans had had enough and went a different direction in 2016. Now Bush/Clinton/Obama all bash President Trump. Coincidence?

Now the neocon globalists took down Bernie again and are going back to the Clinton/Bush/Obama template with Joe Biden.

We already tried the whole endless wars and ship our jobs to China thing for two decades, no thanks.

jlzinck · 05-19-2020, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by TheHeel

I would like to know who they polled with SurveyMonkey but if this is legit, ouch. This is especially telling...

“ Among the highest are a trio of moderate Republicans who have distanced themselves from Trump — Maryland Gov. Larry Hogan (R) at 85 percent, Vermont Gov. Phil Scott (R) at 82 percent, and Massachusetts Gov. Charlie Baker (R) at 82 percent. They occupy three of the top five slots, and six of the top seven are Republicans.”

49 of 50 governors have better coronavirus poll numbers than Trump

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...rs-than-trump/

Baker would be a Democrat in 40+ states. He may have an R next to his name but that's it

rman112 · 05-19-2020, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ilovethelakings

Why vote third party? Because it's better to go down swinging than not to swing at all.

Seems like you're swinging at a pitch 2 feet outside just for the sake of swinging.

pac213up · 05-19-2020, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by rman112

What is the point of voting third party? I never understood it. If you know the person you're voting for will never win, then what's the point? Why even vote at all?

That can be the case voting for either of the main parties as well. In MA when I vote Repub for President...it does not matter. In KY if you are voting for a Dem President...don't matter.

I would rather vote for someone than not vote at all.

rman112 · 05-19-2020, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by pac213up

That can be the case voting for either of the main parties as well. In MA when I vote Repub for President...it does not matter. In KY if you are voting for a Dem President...don't matter.

I would rather vote for someone than not vote at all.

Why ?

pac213up · 05-19-2020, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by rman112

Why ?

Because I believe voting is an important part of being a good citizen of our Country and respecting those who have protected that right to do so. Sitting it out is not an option for me.

Onions · 05-19-2020, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by pac213up

Because I believe voting is an important part of being a good citizen of our Country and respecting those who have protected that right to do so. Sitting it out is not an option for me.

I really wish more people felt this way.

tpeichel34 · 05-19-2020, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by rman112

Seems like you're swinging at a pitch 2 feet outside just for the sake of swinging.

Nothing really changed when we kept voting for the lesser of two evils over and over again.

Pete Schweddy · 05-19-2020, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by rman112

What is the point of voting third party? I never understood it. If you know the person you're voting for will never win, then what's the point? Why even vote at all?

I hope that by voting third party, along with others, it will help bring other parties to the forefront. The more votes they get, the more attention it should bring, and hopefully encourage others to look into it and realize there needs to be more than two choices.

JeremyNick · 05-19-2020, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete Schweddy

I hope that by voting third party, along with others, it will help bring other parties to the forefront. The more votes they get, the more attention it should bring, and hopefully encourage others to look into it and realize there needs to be more than two choices.

If 3rd party voting was a new thing, that would make sense, but it’s not. A 3rd party will never be viable. It hasn’t this century and it won’t the next. Money runs politics and the two current parties won’t let go of their stranglehold.

RedSoxFan28 · 05-19-2020, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by JeremyNick

If 3rd party voting was a new thing, that would make sense, but it’s not. A 3rd party will never be viable. It hasn’t this century and it won’t the next. Money runs politics and the two current parties won’t let go of their stranglehold.

Seems to be a good reason to vote 3rd party

But majority of people believe their freedom/ choice is only limited to the 2 candidates picked by the parties, which isnt much of a choice.

JeremyNick · 05-19-2020, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by RedSoxFan28

Seems to be a good reason to vote 3rd party

And how will a vote take the hundreds of millions of dollars away from the R’s and D’s?

I’m pragmatic. It’s not going to change by voting third party. Never has, never will. Political change has historically only happened under revolutionary pressure.

RedSoxFan28 · 05-19-2020, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by JeremyNick

And how will a vote take the hundreds of millions of dollars away from the R’s and D’s?

I’m pragmatic. It’s not going to change by voting third party. Never has, never will. Political change has historically only happened under revolutionary pressure.

A single vote wont change anything, but if everyone who doesn't vote/ picks best of the worst voted 3rd party it'd make it close.

jdandns · 05-19-2020, 07:02 PM

As for "TDS", that term was coined the day Trump correctly pointed out he could shoot someone in Times Square and his supporters wouldn't care.

Only those who can see this wanna-be Emperor Trump has no clothes aren't deranged at this point.

Look at Eric Trump's face at the moment Donald says he loves the poorly educated:

It's the closest he ever got to his dad telling him he loved him.

persona · 05-19-2020, 07:04 PM

We have had few restaurants closed down permanently within last few weeks due to the pandemic (Including Morton’s) I my self and involved and invested in few local restaurants and it seems as people who are involved in restaurant business are more upset with the governor and lockdown instead of the pandemic it self.
Things have opened up here in Indy and I my self have no issues with our current gov and I’m a democrat.

rman112 · 05-19-2020, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by RedSoxFan28

A single vote wont change anything, but if everyone who doesn't vote/ picks best of the worst voted 3rd party it'd make it close.

And how realistic is that?

rman112 · 05-19-2020, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by jdandns

As for "TDS", that term was coined the day Trump correctly pointed out he could shoot someone in Times Square and his supporters wouldn't care.

Only those who can see this wanna-be Emperor Trump has no clothes aren't deranged at this point.

Look at Eric Trump's face at the moment Donald says he loves the poorly educated:

It's the closest he ever got to his dad telling him he loved him.

This kid agrees:

JeremyNick · 05-19-2020, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by RedSoxFan28

A single vote wont change anything, but if everyone who doesn't vote/ picks best of the worst voted 3rd party it'd make it close.

You didn’t answer my 1st question.

You also assume that people who aren’t voting are only doing so because they want a 3rd party candidate.

RedSoxFan28 · 05-19-2020, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by rman112

And how realistic is that?

Realistically? Not going to happen. Could it? Yes, if people were smarter.

I'd personally rather vote for a candidate I think is best suited.

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Originally Posted by JeremyNick

You didn’t answer my 1st question.

You also assume that people who aren’t voting are only doing so because they want a 3rd party candidate.

Again, one vote doesnt change anything.....
It would take a collective effort.

If there was a 3rd(+) party that represented the people( + that could bring in some of the people who wouldnt usually vote) more than the $$$$ the democratic and republican parties would have less impact regardless of their money.

Did I assume that?

jdandns · 05-19-2020, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by rman112

This kid agrees:

Haha, yes, because a single enraged outlier is equivalent to the near entirety of the current Republican rank and file.

View Poll Results: Who wins these elections? (you can pick multiple)
Donald Trump	44	53.66%
Joe Biden	38	46.34%
Trump Wins Florida	44	53.66%
Biden Wins Florida	16	19.51%
Trump Wins Georgia	44	53.66%
Biden Wins Georgia	12	14.63%
Trump Wins Ohio	43	52.44%
Biden Wins Ohio	16	19.51%
Trump Wins Pennsylvania	27	32.93%
Biden Wins Pennsylvania	34	41.46%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 82. You may not vote on this poll

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jdandns Member Join Date: May 2015 Location: Southern California Posts: 23,348	As for "TDS", that term was coined the day Trump correctly pointed out he could shoot someone in Times Square and his supporters wouldn't care. Only those who can see this wanna-be Emperor Trump has no clothes aren't deranged at this point. Look at Eric Trump's face at the moment Donald says he loves the poorly educated: It's the closest he ever got to his dad telling him he loved him. __________________ AliceNArtieSellinApplesInArkansas

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persona Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 1,871	We have had few restaurants closed down permanently within last few weeks due to the pandemic (Including Morton’s) I my self and involved and invested in few local restaurants and it seems as people who are involved in restaurant business are more upset with the governor and lockdown instead of the pandemic it self. Things have opened up here in Indy and I my self have no issues with our current gov and I’m a democrat. __________________ *Please let me know in advance if you can not ship within Two Business days.