**The Perennial JUAN SOTO Thread!** - Page 589

REGGIE206 · 06-20-2021, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by tconte

A double. I'm hoping I complain long enough he will go on a tear.

Then his cards will jump and I can sell. Then he can have a career like Ichiro.
I'll move the dollars on someone else!

If you have any 2018 Soto cards that I don’t have, I’ll buy.

tconte · 06-20-2021, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by REGGIE206

If you have any 2018 Soto cards that I don’t have, I’ll buy.

I doubt it. But I had a blue Father's day that I sold a while ago.

Got some numbered pajamas at PSA but I bet you have those too.

Keep in mind, I'm riding the train to the bottom. lol Fingers crossed
he gets hot like Ohtani or Vlad. Then I'll sell. For now I'll just whine.

Geoff G · 06-20-2021, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by tconte

I doubt it. But I had a blue Father's day that I sold a while ago.

Got some numbered pajamas at PSA but I bet you have those too.

Keep in mind, I'm riding the train to the bottom. lol Fingers crossed
he gets hot like Ohtani or Vlad. Then I'll sell. For now I'll just whine.

Am I the only one pumped that he has more walks than k’s? That is a big deal to me. Very impressive for a 22yr old. I am also buying any Sotos that I don’t have! Hit me up. Soto collector for life!!

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towerymt · 06-20-2021, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by REGGIE206

If you have any 2018 Soto cards that I don’t have, I’ll buy.

Do you have a full checklist? I'm sure I'm missing some.

REGGIE206 · 06-20-2021, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by towerymt

Do you have a full checklist? I'm sure I'm missing some.

https://www.cardboardconnection.com/...o-rookie-cards

https://www.beckett.com/news/juan-so...ie-card-guide/

lauriontj · 06-20-2021, 02:19 PM

Soto with another hit!

JohnnyHatesJazz · 06-20-2021, 02:19 PM

5 for 11 in the series. c'mon juanny!

lauriontj · 06-20-2021, 02:20 PM

Stolen base!

REGGIE206 · 06-20-2021, 02:22 PM

STOLEN BASE #2!

cardozo · 06-20-2021, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by lauriontj

Soto with another hit!

I don’t think hitting was or is the issue here, at the moment he isn’t bringing anything extra to the table so even though he will remain important to the team his hobby relevance is declining rapidly, there are a lot of players that have good hitting ability but are nowhere near where Soto is priced and there lays the problem, it’s not a good sign when collectors/investors appear to be happy when Soto gets a base hit.

gmoney328 · 06-20-2021, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by cardozo

I don’t think hitting was or is the issue here, at the moment he isn’t bringing anything extra to the table so even though he will remain important to the team his hobby relevance is declining rapidly, there are a lot of players that have good hitting ability but are nowhere near where Soto is priced and there lays the problem, it’s not a good sign when collectors/investors appear to be happy when Soto gets a base hit.

Rapidly is a bit of a stretch. He's still a 22-year old world champion, with an immense future and a batting title in his trophy case as well as the ring. To say he's irrelevant is comical.

tconte · 06-20-2021, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by gmoney328

Rapidly is a bit of a stretch. He's still a 22-year old world champion, with an immense future and a batting title in his trophy case as well as the ring. To say he's irrelevant is comical.

Proof is in the tale of the tape.

US300's were selling for $300

Two months later they are going for $130 and dropping. They'll be under
$100 soon. Most of his RC cards have dropped significantly in this short time.

His decline is not rapid and I agree he's only 22. But he is quickly losing
hobby love. This is concerning.

People can say "I'm buying" and "He is 22" or "Lineup sucks!" or "It has
only been 50 games". But can anyone say this drop in price is not a big
deal?

Rabs · 06-20-2021, 03:21 PM

Sell Soto buy Schwarber obviously.

monkeymcgee · 06-20-2021, 03:22 PM

Soto brought in a lot of non-baseball fan money in the off-season. The hype buyers are fickle and will take a loss to get out. Combined with the general market drop and a correction for Soto's lack of power, the decline seems like a standard situation where the market got ahead of itself. I'd say it has overreacted on the other side now, but I'm not buying either. Then again, I'm not buying anything cardboard at the moment.

But as someone still holding a good bit of Soto, I'm not concerned. I made the mistake of overreacting in early 2019 and paid for it. Won't do that again.

tconte · 06-20-2021, 03:27 PM

Yah, I'm going to hold as well. He is a good player.

But I'm honest when I say I am worried that I should have sold more when the time
was right. I don't think I missed the boat but I bet it will be some time the prices get
back to where they were.

cardozo · 06-20-2021, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by gmoney328

Rapidly is a bit of a stretch. He's still a 22-year old world champion, with an immense future and a batting title in his trophy case as well as the ring. To say he's irrelevant is comical.

Please point out where I said he is irrelevant?

LVDan · 06-20-2021, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by tconte

Yah, I'm going to hold as well. He is a good player.

But I'm honest when I say I am worried that I should have sold more when the time
was right. I don't think I missed the boat but I bet it will be some time the prices get
back to where they were.

If you’re holding rare stuff I think you have a good shot at some point in the next couple years to get back to where they were with a dominant hot streak to start a season.

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panamamyers · 06-20-2021, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by cardozo

I don’t think hitting was or is the issue here, at the moment he isn’t bringing anything extra to the table so even though he will remain important to the team his hobby relevance is declining rapidly, there are a lot of players that have good hitting ability but are nowhere near where Soto is priced and there lays the problem, it’s not a good sign when collectors/investors appear to be happy when Soto gets a base hit.

Hitting is the entire issue.
And he's not that far away..it's just the ISO is so poor.
By all other accounts he's having a good year.
His OPS is only .100 behind where Trouts was when he won his first MVP. Soto is having what many believe is a horrible year and is still only one good three game series with a couple of bombs away from being in the same ballpark OPS wise from the other young superstars.

REGGIE206 · 06-20-2021, 04:04 PM

Man.. I wonder how many people said Vlad Jr prices will never go back up when he hit 9 home runs, .262 batting average, and a .329 OBP last year?

Some people are funny.

Some Guy · 06-20-2021, 04:04 PM

Even though Soto market is down I feel pretty good about this pickup last week on the 2018 TT PSA 10 auto #/99 from my slabs for $1000. Auction ending in 3 hours for same card at $1500 already.

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Snakeonia · 06-20-2021, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by tconte

Proof is in the tale of the tape.

US300's were selling for $300

Two months later they are going for $130 and dropping. They'll be under
$100 soon. Most of his RC cards have dropped significantly in this short time.

His decline is not rapid and I agree he's only 22. But he is quickly losing
hobby love. This is concerning.

People can say "I'm buying" and "He is 22" or "Lineup sucks!" or "It has
only been 50 games". But can anyone say this drop in price is not a big
deal?

Yup its just soto. Not like the rest of the nba prices cut in half as well. If you bought at all time highs hoping to flip then I dont know what to tell you other than sorry. Life lessons aren’t cheap.

Whens the funeral?

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hammertime · 06-20-2021, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by REGGIE206

Man.. I wonder how many people said Vlad Jr prices will never go back up when he hit 9 home runs, .262 batting average, and a .329 OBP last year?

Some people are funny.

And Soto is #4 in the MLB in OBP during his "slump". He's not crushing homers ATM. I think that's the extent of the "problem".

gmoney328 · 06-20-2021, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by cardozo

Please point out where I said he is irrelevant?

Ok. Fair enough. I took "rapidly" and "declining hobby relevance" too literally.

Maybe his prices went up too quickly and he's settling back into what would be considered a normal pattern.

It's happening with a lot of players, btw.

eye4talent · 06-20-2021, 05:18 PM

The Soto situation is pretty simple: He hasn’t hit with much power this season, so many of the buyers who contribute to a player’s hobby rise are losing interest and/or confidence.

For these people, their interest/confidence in a player’s cards needs to be fueled like a hot-air balloon. Soto isn’t hitting home runs or batting .300 or carrying an elite OPS, so the balloon is descending.

However, if he goes on a hot streak, these people will come rushing back as the balloon re-ascends.

Of course, he has to actually start hitting home runs and driving in runs in bunches for this to happen. But it’s hard to imagine a player of Soto’s caliber not figuring it out soon enough. And when he does, people will remember why they spent so much money on his cards in the first place—and want to do it all over again.

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Some Guy · 06-20-2021, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by eye4talent

The Soto situation is pretty simple: He hasn’t hit with much power this season, so many of the buyers who contribute to a player’s hobby rise are losing interest and/or confidence.

For these people, their interest/confidence in a player’s cards needs to be fueled like a hot-air balloon. Soto isn’t hitting home runs or batting .300 or carrying an elite OPS, so the balloon is descending.

However, if he goes on a hot streak, these people will come rushing back as the balloon re-ascends.

Of course, he has to actually start hitting home runs and driving in runs in bunches for this to happen. But it’s hard to imagine a player of Soto’s caliber not figuring it out soon enough. And when he does, people will remember why they spent so much money on his cards in the first place—and want to do it all over again.

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06-20-2021, 02:19 PM	#14706
lauriontj Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: PA Posts: 6,268	Soto with another hit! __________________ Insta: tjssportscards24 PC: Griffey/Soto and like the Washington Nationals! My dad taught me to hate the Yankees. Now that I’m an adult, I realize I was raised correctly.

06-20-2021, 02:19 PM	#14707
JohnnyHatesJazz Member Join Date: Nov 2018 Posts: 7,244	5 for 11 in the series. c'mon juanny! __________________ "If you can't handle the Patriots dynastic resurgence, call 1-800-YOU-LOSE and I will be more than happy to help you free of charge. Because I'm a NICE GUY." *Captain Of The Mayeflower*

06-20-2021, 02:20 PM	#14708
lauriontj Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: PA Posts: 6,268	Stolen base! __________________ Insta: tjssportscards24 PC: Griffey/Soto and like the Washington Nationals! My dad taught me to hate the Yankees. Now that I’m an adult, I realize I was raised correctly.

06-20-2021, 02:22 PM	#14709
REGGIE206 Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Mukilteo, WA (hometown: Vallejo, CA) Posts: 9,787	STOLEN BASE #2! __________________ INSTAGRAM: my_card_collection 📸

06-20-2021, 03:21 PM	#14713
Rabs Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Virginia Beach Posts: 16,109 Rabs	Sell Soto buy Schwarber obviously. __________________ Sean Taylor/Craig Kimbrel/Brian Orakpo Collector! https://sportscardalbum.com/u/rabs

06-20-2021, 03:22 PM	#14714
monkeymcgee Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: VA Posts: 10,974	Soto brought in a lot of non-baseball fan money in the off-season. The hype buyers are fickle and will take a loss to get out. Combined with the general market drop and a correction for Soto's lack of power, the decline seems like a standard situation where the market got ahead of itself. I'd say it has overreacted on the other side now, but I'm not buying either. Then again, I'm not buying anything cardboard at the moment. But as someone still holding a good bit of Soto, I'm not concerned. I made the mistake of overreacting in early 2019 and paid for it. Won't do that again.

06-20-2021, 03:27 PM	#14715
tconte Member Join Date: May 2017 Location: Marlton, NJ - Less Than an Hour from the Millville Meteor! Posts: 2,042 aconte	Yah, I'm going to hold as well. He is a good player. But I'm honest when I say I am worried that I should have sold more when the time was right. I don't think I missed the boat but I bet it will be some time the prices get back to where they were. __________________ Numbered cards......this is no longer the way. If you invest in cards, don't forget Cecil Cooper!

06-20-2021, 04:04 PM	#14719
REGGIE206 Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Mukilteo, WA (hometown: Vallejo, CA) Posts: 9,787	Man.. I wonder how many people said Vlad Jr prices will never go back up when he hit 9 home runs, .262 batting average, and a .329 OBP last year? Some people are funny. __________________ INSTAGRAM: my_card_collection 📸

06-20-2021, 04:04 PM	#14720
Some Guy Member Join Date: Feb 2019 Location: Tampa, Fl Posts: 1,909 clm_sports_collectibles	Even though Soto market is down I feel pretty good about this pickup last week on the 2018 TT PSA 10 auto #/99 from my slabs for $1000. Auction ending in 3 hours for same card at $1500 already. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

06-20-2021, 05:18 PM	#14724
eye4talent Member Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: Monterey, CA Posts: 7,922 eye4talent eye4talent	The Soto situation is pretty simple: He hasn’t hit with much power this season, so many of the buyers who contribute to a player’s hobby rise are losing interest and/or confidence. For these people, their interest/confidence in a player’s cards needs to be fueled like a hot-air balloon. Soto isn’t hitting home runs or batting .300 or carrying an elite OPS, so the balloon is descending. However, if he goes on a hot streak, these people will come rushing back as the balloon re-ascends. Of course, he has to actually start hitting home runs and driving in runs in bunches for this to happen. But it’s hard to imagine a player of Soto’s caliber not figuring it out soon enough. And when he does, people will remember why they spent so much money on his cards in the first place—and want to do it all over again. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro