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[6GOAT789]

Originally Posted by JeremyNick

Tampa is a bad, poorly coached team.

If they make the playoffs, they will be an easy out.

Impossible to say now, since it’s one game at a time

Easy out since they lost to the Steelers and panthers, or in the SB since they won at Dallas and at NO, no one knows


Every year it seems a team loses to a team they should have beat and wins a game they shouldn’t have

[JeremyNick]

Originally Posted by 6GOAT789

Impossible to say now, since it’s one game at a time

Easy out since they lost to the Steelers and panthers, or in the SB since they won at Dallas and at NO, no one knows


Every year it seems a team loses to a team they should have beat and wins a game they shouldn’t have

Easy out.

Week one win agains the Boys and beating the Saints with Jameis aren’t statement wins.

They aren’t good. Their record doesn’t lie.

[Fenway55]

Originally Posted by 6GOAT789

Impossible to say now, since it’s one game at a time

Easy out since they lost to the Steelers and panthers, or in the SB since they won at Dallas and at NO, no one knows


Every year it seems a team loses to a team they should have beat and wins a game they shouldn’t have

Once you hit the playoffs, anything can happen and anyone who says differently is ignorant.

Last year two #4 seeds went to the Super Bowl. Once we hit the divisional round, every single one of the 7 final playoff games were decided by 3 points except KC-Buf, which went to overtime (and was decided by 6 points). Every single winning score was scored inside the final 2:00 of regulation or in overtime. The lower seeded road teams went 4-2. It really would not have taken much to make last year's playoffs look entirely different. Just a play here or a penalty there and entirely different teams could have won and advanced.

[JeremyNick]

Apparently we need to get ready to celebrate Ertendankfest.

[6GOAT789]

Originally Posted by Fenway55

Once you hit the playoffs, anything can happen and anyone who says differently is ignorant.

Last year two #4 seeds went to the Super Bowl. Once we hit the divisional round, every single one of the 7 final playoff games were decided by 3 points except KC-Buf, which went to overtime (and was decided by 6 points). Every single winning score was scored inside the final 2:00 of regulation or in overtime. The lower seeded road teams went 4-2. It really would not have taken much to make last year's playoffs look entirely different. Just a play here or a penalty there and entirely different teams could have won and advanced.

100%


Imagine being here like some just to be negative


They should go to the Josh Allen, Hurts or Burrow subs since they clearly don’t like Brady

[6GOAT789]

Originally Posted by JeremyNick

Easy out.

Week one win agains the Boys and beating the Saints with Jameis aren’t statement wins.

They aren’t good. Their record doesn’t lie.

Even “statement wins” mean nothing


Bucs could have beat the Chiefs and Bills weeks 1 and 2, has nothing to do with the playoffs

[JeremyNick]

Originally Posted by 6GOAT789

Even “statement wins” mean nothing


Bucs could have beat the Chiefs and Bills weeks 1 and 2, has nothing to do with the playoffs

Well you held those wins up as someone special or impressive.

Which they aren’t.

3-5 don’t lie.

[Derekbauer]

Originally Posted by Fenway55

Once you hit the playoffs, anything can happen and anyone who says differently is ignorant.

Originally Posted by 6GOAT789

100%


Imagine being here like some just to be negative


They should go to the Josh Allen, Hurts or Burrow subs since they clearly don’t like Brady

So the Giants or Seahawks can go the Super Bowl then? I thought you said there was no way.

[JeremyNick]

Originally Posted by Derekbauer

So the Giants or Seahawks can go the Super Bowl then? I thought you said there was no way.

Easy there.

No need to point out the hypocrisy.

Clearly we are just haterz.

[jplarson]

I'm impressed by the post counts by people in this thread relative to their total post counts. Never saw 100% devotion to one thread before.

[Onepocketj]

Originally Posted by jplarson

I'm impressed by the post counts by people in this thread relative to their total post counts. Never saw 100% devotion to one thread before.

People or person?

[cfern023]

If this keeps up Brady is going to come back next season 2023 just to prove he's not washed.

Then He'll win, and return in 2024 just to prove it wasn't a fluke.

Just to suck in 2024, and to come back in 2025 to prove he's not washed.

Dude's going to be chasing rings like Gollum.

[EBCollectibles]

Originally Posted by cfern023

If this keeps up Brady is going to come back next season 2023 just to prove he's not washed.

Then He'll win, and return in 2024 just to prove it wasn't a fluke.

Just to suck in 2024, and to come back in 2025 to prove he's not washed.

Dude's going to be chasing rings like Gollum.

If he comes back he is an idiot. He should have stayed retired or whatever he called it.

[6GOAT789]

Originally Posted by JeremyNick

Easy out.

Week one win agains the Boys and beating the Saints with Jameis aren’t statement wins.

They aren’t good. Their record doesn’t lie.

Originally Posted by Derekbauer

So the Giants or Seahawks can go the Super Bowl then? I thought you said there was no way.

You have to apply logic at some point

If you think the Giants and Seahawks will be playing in the NFCCG then lol

Sure it’s possible, but why won’t it happen then?

The Chiefs and Bills could lose the rest of their games while the Seahawks and Giants win the rest of theirs, unless they play each other, sure that’s possible, but not going to happen

[6GOAT789]

Originally Posted by EBCollectibles

If he comes back he is an idiot. He should have stayed retired or whatever he called it.

He’s second in passing yards. I agree, clearly he doesn’t have the arm anymore, it’s not like he led the nfl in passing yards last season either

[6GOAT789]

Anyone else see no point really in stats that people love to point out?

Say the Bucs are last in rushing yards but in the playoffs


All the teams that rushed for more that aren’t in the playoffs, a lot of good those rushing yards did

[HBMC]

Originally Posted by 6GOAT789

You have to apply logic at some point

Originally Posted by 6GOAT789

Anyone else see no point really in stats that people love to point out?

Say the Bucs are last in rushing yards but in the playoffs


All the teams that rushed for more that aren’t in the playoffs, a lot of good those rushing yards did

You really don't understand what you are saying do you? That could only happen if they were scoring a lot more, they're not. They barely scratched out north of 20 points against Baltimore long after the fate of the game was over.

The Bucs inability to run the ball is preventing their offense from sustaining drives, it is feeding into their inability to stop anyone on defense because the D is on the field too much (Baltimore had 38:23 of TOP, the Chiefs had 38:38). It is a recursive relationship. You're assuming this trend won't doom this team, it absolutely will.

They have thirteen TD's this season, only twelve on offense. They're 25th in scoring and 28th in average TOP. Their Red Zone TD % is 29th (45.83% is brutal when they have so many good skill players). They're leaving points on the field way too much. Their Rushing defense is also faltering and allowing teams to sustain drives (particularly good teams like KC and Baltimore), keep the ball away from Brady and never let the Bucs have a chance until the game is already over. Their Defense is also allowing teams to score Red Zone TD's at a 69.53% clip, which is also 29th.

Two of the teams who are more inept than Tampa at scoring per game have already defeated the Bucs this season (Green Bay and Pittsburgh). Carolina is 22nd in scoring and the Panthers shut their offense down. The Rams are 28th in scoring per game, maybe Tampa can finally smother someone and do just enough to win against a shell of a team.

Rams at home - Could be a win given how poor LA has been on offense
Seattle in Germany - I think Seattle is better on offense by a long shot and will be physical running the ball.
Cleveland after a bye - Cleveland is more physical on their OL and will actually run the ball a lot.
New Orleans at home - Wildcard game, the Saints always play Tampa tough. If Dalton is just okay and doesn't turn the ball over, it could be close. NO's D could be the deciding factor.
@ SF - SF is clearly more complete than TB
@ Cincy - Hard to say, Cincy might be on the letdown of their season right now.
@ Arizona - Also hard to say, depends on which Kyler shows up.
Carolina at home - Given that the Panthers just embarrassed TB, hard to say
@ Atlanta - Atlanta is an unconventional team, hard to know this far out.

Are you confident they'll win 6 of those games?

[6GOAT789]

The analysis/stats etc last post season probably had the Chiefs beating the Bengals, the Packers beating the Niners, and the much better than now Bucs beating the Rams

Three “better” teams, and they all lost

[JeremyNick]

Originally Posted by 6GOAT789

The analysis/stats etc last post season probably had the Chiefs beating the Bengals, the Packers beating the Niners, and the much better than now Bucs beating the Rams

Three “better” teams, and they all lost

Any of them below .500?

[daveyc1]

Contenders BGS 8.5/10 sold by Probstein went for 30K last night.

looks lower than recent comps. I have seen PSA authentic examples are dropping as well. I just saw one on FB with asking price of 16K. I am sure a solid offer would take it for less.

It seems this is a promising sign for collectors and a bad sign for investors.

[Onepocketj]

Originally Posted by HBMC

You really don't understand what you are saying do you?

You could have stopped there. That's why most people don't bother replying to him.

[mcb0419]

Originally Posted by daveyc1

Contenders BGS 8.5/10 sold by Probstein went for 30K last night.

looks lower than recent comps. I have seen PSA authentic examples are dropping as well. I just saw one on FB with asking price of 16K. I am sure a solid offer would take it for less.

It seems this is a promising sign for collectors and a bad sign for investors.

I’ve noticed a lot for sale in FB groups too. Ones that people had posted about picking up themselves recently too. Makes me wonder where the bottom will be for that card.


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[Derekbauer]

Originally Posted by daveyc1

Contenders BGS 8.5/10 sold by Probstein went for 30K last night.

looks lower than recent comps. I have seen PSA authentic examples are dropping as well. I just saw one on FB with asking price of 16K. I am sure a solid offer would take it for less.

It seems this is a promising sign for collectors and a bad sign for investors.

Yeah that guy with the miscut SGC for $16k said he picked it up in September too. Yikes

[Stringmusic]

What do y’all see Playoff Momentum /750 going for off eBay? I don’t have any social media so the only thing I really keep up with is eBay and myslabs.

The last few sales in BGS 8 were around $3,000. A few raw have been sold for around $2,500 but I’m not touching a raw copy off eBay. I would love for BGS 8 or 8.5 to get down to 2k

[daveyc1]

Originally Posted by mcb0419

I’ve noticed a lot for sale in FB groups too. Ones that people had posted about picking up themselves recently too. Makes me wonder where the bottom will be for that card.


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It is a good question. I think I can remember just before Covid of BGS 8 selling for 7-8k. I also remember around that same time period of a guy that paid 5k for an Authentic Contenders and was bashed pretty hard for paying that much.
that would have been fall 2019.

I have a feeling that unless something drastic happens to improve our economy, Inflation/higher energy costs are going to really hurt a lot of people. With Diesel near $6/gal. every single thing we buy at the stores will be heading up. and significantly. Up here in the North East, I have already heard they are rationing home heating oil.

I consider the Contenders in A to BGS 8 or so the very upper limit of what most middle-class wage earners can afford. The middle class should be bracing for hard times ahead in the near future and I would think purchasing/financing a football card would wind up near the bottom of most of those families' priority lists.

I would not be surprised if those grades settle down to around pre covid prices, at least until inflation/energy prices get under control. I think that higher grades and rare cards like the Champ Ticket are more inflation safe because those in the market for such cards have greater disposable income even in uncertain times.