2017-18 Boston Celtics Official Thread - Page 6

Rareairx23 · 06-22-2017, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by JMarchand1981

I also should say I would rather have porzingis.

Nope. Kp is a great talent, but i dont feel that he fits what boston is really trying to do. I just dont think he is fast enough to keep up with golden state. Thats who we are ultimately building a team to try and beat. I just dont think he puts us over the top like paul george does

Yaz1966 · 06-22-2017, 07:31 PM

My guess at a PG trade offer:

Avery
Player(s) to match salary
LAC pick
MEM pick

JMarchand1981 · 06-22-2017, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Yaz1966

My guess at a PG trade offer:

Avery
Player(s) to match salary
LAC pick
MEM pick

I woukd be fine with this. Not sure Indiana would be ok with it.

Yaz1966 · 06-22-2017, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by JMarchand1981

I woukd be fine with this. Not sure Indiana would be ok with it.

It's better than the Lakers reported offer which was picks 27, 28 and Julius Randle

JMarchand1981 · 06-22-2017, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Yaz1966

It's better than the Lakers reported offer which was picks 27, 28 and Julius Randle

I didn't know that Randle held that kind of value.

RogerGodahell · 06-22-2017, 07:44 PM

JMarchand1981 · 06-22-2017, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by RogerGodahell

Is this the kid the Celtics just picked?

SHowley2003 · 06-22-2017, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by JMarchand1981

Is this the kid the Celtics just picked?

Yep. That's him.

JMarchand1981 · 06-22-2017, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by SHowley2003

Yep. That's him.

::sarcasm:: Just what we need, someone who can shoot the three ball.

SHowley2003 · 06-22-2017, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by JMarchand1981

::sarcasm:: Just what we need, someone who can shoot the three ball.

Eh; I wouldn't put much into the video. AD has an identical one from 2012. Supposedly he's a stron isolation scorer. Could compliment Jaylen well if he pans out. Interesting pick.

JMarchand1981 · 06-22-2017, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by SHowley2003

Eh; I wouldn't put much into the video. AD has an identical one from 2012. Supposedly he's a stron isolation scorer. Could compliment Jaylen well if he pans out. Interesting pick.

I feel like he does what Jaylen does. I guess.

Yaz1966 · 06-22-2017, 08:30 PM

Could Tatum be a good small ball 4?

FBGuy13 · 06-22-2017, 08:30 PM

I absolutely love the Tatum pick and trading the #1 pick deal -- I have always wanted Boston to escalate their timeline, and start trading for a star or two, but I really believe in Danny Ainge and trust in what he is doing. I think a few years from now Tatum may end up the best player in this draft, and now they get a top pick either next year or in 2019 to go along w/ their many other #1 picks. Seems like they could have acquired Butler, but still feel they want Hayward and will get him.

It is hard to be patient, but through many conversations I have realized too that Golden State / Cavs still are the teams to beat here for a few years - so build the next super team through the draft, and add a few pieces as able. I liked the Jaylen Brown pick last year, and love the Tatum pick this year. Next year they will have the flexibility to add a top guard w/ the picks they are likely to have. Who knows, might still be a deal in the works for Paul George or add a Griffin or Hayward - should be interesting, and Boston should compete once again. Just glad they made the trade and got Tatum and a future high first round pick - very smart trade!

SPauthentic84 · 06-22-2017, 08:34 PM

Just chiming in as a Duke fan and a Cavs fan.

I really am glad to see Tatum go to you. I think he is a great kid with an O game that Stevens is going to do wonders with.

I really dont like the Celtics but Im glad hes going to a good organization and get to watch him. He has MVP potential. Im really happy for him he didnt go to the Kings because it would have killed his career before it started.

Hoping Lebron can stop you guys for a few more years, because Tatum wont be able to be stopped

JMarchand1981 · 06-22-2017, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by SPauthentic84

Just chiming in as a Duke fan and a Cavs fan.

I really am glad to see Tatum go to you. I think he is a great kid with an O game that Stevens is going to do wonders with.

I really dont like the Celtics but Im glad hes going to a good organization and get to watch him. He has MVP potential. Im really happy for him he didnt go to the Kings because it would have killed his career before it started.

Hoping Lebron can stop you guys for a few more years, because Tatum wont be able to be stopped

Doesn't he kind of hAve the same game as Jaylen brown though?

Rareairx23 · 06-22-2017, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by JMarchand1981

Doesn't he kind of hAve the same game as Jaylen brown though?

Thought the same thing as well, one of em has to be traded, right?

SPauthentic84 · 06-22-2017, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by JMarchand1981

Doesn't he kind of hAve the same game as Jaylen brown though?

Didnt watch brown that much.

But Im going to guess Tatum is far and away a better offensive player.

JMarchand1981 · 06-22-2017, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Rareairx23

Thought the same thing as well, one of em has to be traded, right?

Paves the way to move criwder, I think.

mfw13 · 06-22-2017, 08:50 PM

If the Celtics goal is to beat the Warriors, the question becomes:

How do you hide Thomas on defense? Because he isn't going to be able to guard Curry or Klay 1-on-1 given how small he is.

So unless Brad Stevens figures out the answer to that question by next spring, the Celtics have no hope of stopping the Warriors offense no matter what other personnel moves they make.

SPauthentic84 · 06-22-2017, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by mfw13

If the Celtics goal is to beat the Warriors, the question becomes:

How do you hide Thomas on defense? Because he isn't going to be able to guard Curry or Klay 1-on-1 given how small he is.

So unless Brad Stevens figures out the answer to that question by next spring, the Celtics have no hope of stopping the Warriors offense no matter what other personnel moves they make.

Get out of the east first

Ok...figured Id chime in...great pick boston

JMarchand1981 · 06-22-2017, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by SPauthentic84

Get out of the east first

Ok...figured Id chime in...great pick boston

I am a Celtics fan......THIS is the answer to the previous question.

Worry about the dubs when you can keep the cavs within 20 in the ECF.

mfw13 · 06-22-2017, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by JMarchand1981

I am a Celtics fan......THIS is the answer to the previous question.

Worry about the dubs when you can keep the cavs within 20 in the ECF.

True.

But even against the Cavs offense, where do you hide Thomas? He's going to be a defensive liability even against average guards (like JR Smith, for example).

SHowley2003 · 06-22-2017, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by JMarchand1981

Doesn't he kind of hAve the same game as Jaylen brown though?

The feedback I'm seeing online is that Tatum plays bigger. A big 3/small 4. More isolation. Brown is a 2/3 and plays off the screen more. More swing passes and ball movement. Runs the floor well too. I think they should compliment each other well in Brad's system.

TheCelticsfan29 · 06-22-2017, 08:57 PM

Yeah Tatum has a much better offensive game than Jaylen. He'll be able to score when we need scoring, like when Isaiah goes cold and our offense turns to garbage

Rareairx23 · 06-22-2017, 09:08 PM

How about this for a starting lineup

IT4
Bradley
Jaylen brown
Blake griffin
Horford

Bench
Crowder
Smart
Tatum
Gerald green

Any thoughts?

06-22-2017, 08:34 PM	#139
SPauthentic84 Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: PA Posts: 11,317	Just chiming in as a Duke fan and a Cavs fan. I really am glad to see Tatum go to you. I think he is a great kid with an O game that Stevens is going to do wonders with. I really dont like the Celtics but Im glad hes going to a good organization and get to watch him. He has MVP potential. Im really happy for him he didnt go to the Kings because it would have killed his career before it started. Hoping Lebron can stop you guys for a few more years, because Tatum wont be able to be stopped __________________ Follow me on Instagram: Spauthentic1

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Yaz1966 Member Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: New Zealand (US postal address) Posts: 984	My guess at a PG trade offer: Avery Player(s) to match salary LAC pick MEM pick

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Yaz1966 Member Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: New Zealand (US postal address) Posts: 984	Could Tatum be a good small ball 4?

06-22-2017, 08:30 PM	#138
FBGuy13 Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 1,403 firesportsinvestments	I absolutely love the Tatum pick and trading the #1 pick deal -- I have always wanted Boston to escalate their timeline, and start trading for a star or two, but I really believe in Danny Ainge and trust in what he is doing. I think a few years from now Tatum may end up the best player in this draft, and now they get a top pick either next year or in 2019 to go along w/ their many other #1 picks. Seems like they could have acquired Butler, but still feel they want Hayward and will get him. It is hard to be patient, but through many conversations I have realized too that Golden State / Cavs still are the teams to beat here for a few years - so build the next super team through the draft, and add a few pieces as able. I liked the Jaylen Brown pick last year, and love the Tatum pick this year. Next year they will have the flexibility to add a top guard w/ the picks they are likely to have. Who knows, might still be a deal in the works for Paul George or add a Griffin or Hayward - should be interesting, and Boston should compete once again. Just glad they made the trade and got Tatum and a future high first round pick - very smart trade!

06-22-2017, 08:50 PM	#144
mfw13 Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 17,350	If the Celtics goal is to beat the Warriors, the question becomes: How do you hide Thomas on defense? Because he isn't going to be able to guard Curry or Klay 1-on-1 given how small he is. So unless Brad Stevens figures out the answer to that question by next spring, the Celtics have no hope of stopping the Warriors offense no matter what other personnel moves they make.

06-22-2017, 09:08 PM	#150
Rareairx23 Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: new hampshire Posts: 6,795 2011champs41	How about this for a starting lineup IT4 Bradley Jaylen brown Blake griffin Horford Bench Crowder Smart Tatum Gerald green Any thoughts?