Evan Mathis Trimming Anything and Everything to Sell via Probstein, PWCC, & COMC - Page 6

mjwoop · 12-20-2019, 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by cking

So you are ok with him trimming cards?

I think you may be misinterpreting his post. He's in Auburn, so my guess would be that he's taunting Mathis a bit.

cking · 12-20-2019, 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by mjwoop

I think you may be misinterpreting his post. He's in Auburn, so my guess would be that he's taunting Mathis a bit.

Maybe...I dont know...................he is a huge grading apologist and always sticking up for PSA no matter what they do wrong

Hail2TheVictors · 12-20-2019, 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by blackbears86

WOW. Curious if this was trimmed. That's a would be a whole new level of mega fraud.

This hobby is turning to crap.

It's really not the hobby.

Where money is to be made, scum will follow. Unfortunately the sports card industry seems to have been ripe for this type of thing. Disgusting.

pete2345 · 12-20-2019, 12:40 AM

I wonder if he gets or gives more trim?

MoreToppsPlease · 12-20-2019, 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Hail2TheVictors

It's really not the hobby.

Where money is to be made, scum will follow. Unfortunately the sports card industry seems to have been ripe for this type of thing. Disgusting.

Plenty of “regular” people need the hobby to be a little shady...it’s what’s necessary for real profit.

ToppsFB · 12-20-2019, 12:48 AM

All the more reason to not pay for the high end graded stuff. I like 5s, 6s, and 7s because you can see the edge touches and subtle wear which means you know it is unaltered. I look through my stuff from the 50s and 60s and you can tell the blades that cut these cards years ago was not the sharpest blade on the planet but that tells me it is unaltered. Pretty tough to recreate that kind of authentic cut.

pejc300 · 12-20-2019, 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by ToppsFB

All the more reason to not pay for the high end graded stuff. I like 5s, 6s, and 7s because you can see the edge touches and subtle wear which means you know it is unaltered. I look through my stuff from the 50s and 60s and you can tell the blades that cut these cards years ago was not the sharpest blade on the planet but that tells me it is unaltered. Pretty tough to recreate that kind of authentic cut.

Anyone want to help him out? I don't have the energy tonight.

3124508 on COMC · 12-20-2019, 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by pejc300

Anyone want to help him out? I don't have the energy tonight.

My thoughts exactly.

scottagibson · 12-20-2019, 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by cking

So you are ok with him trimming cards?

Couldn't care less. I think its all comical. Folks thinking the sky is falling and that something is actually going to happen to, change anything about or influence what is already being done is just funny to me. I laughed out loud to the response. I am legit an Evan Mathis fan. Was at Alabama (funny, but I'm a bama fan living in Auburn)... and when he won a Super Bowl with my boy Demarcus Ware in Denver. This doesn't change that whether he did or did not do it. If graded companies certified the items and people paid for them I really can't understand how he is personally going to get any kind of punishment here. Does anyone have hard proof of EXACTLY what happened and who did what?

Would I personally do it? Absolutely not. I do find it unethical... but we are talking about cardboard here... not cancer treatments. I would also never spend the money some folks do on another man's opinion either.

chezball · 12-20-2019, 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by toshoegaze

How do you know that card was worked on?

cause he's BODA, duh. Nice first post.

scottagibson · 12-20-2019, 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by cking

Maybe...I dont know...................he is a huge grading apologist and always sticking up for PSA no matter what they do wrong

Ehhh I don't know if this is completely true. I just like turning $2 cards into $15-20 and $8-10 cards into $30-40. Sorry if I'm wrong for that. I don't care about this side of things really. Too many people have too much money tied up. I am highly entertained by it though. Especially all the responses. My (3) boy's bathroom is currently "disgusting". Losing my last living grandparent last month was "sad".... this... this is just more interesting more than anything. Doesn't affect my life one bit.

MoreToppsPlease · 12-20-2019, 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by ToppsFB

All the more reason to not pay for the high end graded stuff. I like 5s, 6s, and 7s because you can see the edge touches and subtle wear which means you know it is unaltered. I look through my stuff from the 50s and 60s and you can tell the blades that cut these cards years ago was not the sharpest blade on the planet but that tells me it is unaltered. Pretty tough to recreate that kind of authentic cut.

BODA has shown that the card doctors can recreate rough edges that normally exist on ‘50s cards, and have demonstrated that card doctors can artificially round edges.

Subtle wear can be faked.

I wonder if it’s more profitable for card doctors and their acquaintances to alter many low to mid grade cards than a few high grade ones. But whatever the case may be, they’re almost certainly practicing, honing and testing their skills on lower end stuff and seeing how the system works using it.

cgilmo78 · 12-20-2019, 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by scottagibson

Ehhh I don't know if this is completely true. I just like turning $2 cards into $15-20 and $8-10 cards into $30-40. Sorry if I'm wrong for that. I don't care about this side of things really. Too many people have too much money tied up. I am highly entertained by it though. Especially all the responses. My (3) boy's bathroom is currently "disgusting". Losing my last living grandparent last month was "sad".... this... this is just more interesting more than anything. Doesn't affect my life one bit.

Listen man. It was a coyote.

scottagibson · 12-20-2019, 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by cgilmo78

Listen man. It was a coyote.

What's up brotha?! Long time since I've seen you. Hope all is well!

cking · 12-20-2019, 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by scottagibson

Couldn't care less. I think its all comical. Folks thinking the sky is falling and that something is actually going to happen to, change anything about or influence what is already being done is just funny to me. I laughed out loud to the response. I am legit an Evan Mathis fan. Was at Alabama (funny, but I'm a bama fan living in Auburn)... and when he won a Super Bowl with my boy Demarcus Ware in Denver. This doesn't change that whether he did or did not do it. If graded companies certified the items and people paid for them I really can't understand how he is personally going to get any kind of punishment here. Does anyone have hard proof of EXACTLY what happened and who did what?

Would I personally do it? Absolutely not. I do find it unethical... but we are talking about cardboard here... not cancer treatments. I would also never spend the money some folks do on another man's opinion either.

Mathis is defrauding people and you are cheering him on. Hope you are proud of yourself.

cypher · 12-20-2019, 01:56 AM

The NFL should be pissed that a former player is committing fraud. I watched a video showcasing his collection and the dude seemed a little off.

metsandweezer · 12-20-2019, 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by scottagibson

Couldn't care less. I think its all comical. Folks thinking the sky is falling and that something is actually going to happen to, change anything about or influence what is already being done is just funny to me. I laughed out loud to the response. I am legit an Evan Mathis fan. Was at Alabama (funny, but I'm a bama fan living in Auburn)... and when he won a Super Bowl with my boy Demarcus Ware in Denver. This doesn't change that whether he did or did not do it. If graded companies certified the items and people paid for them I really can't understand how he is personally going to get any kind of punishment here. Does anyone have hard proof of EXACTLY what happened and who did what?

Would I personally do it? Absolutely not. I do find it unethical... but we are talking about cardboard here... not cancer treatments. I would also never spend the money some folks do on another man's opinion either.

LMAOOOOO

scottagibson · 12-20-2019, 02:07 AM

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Originally Posted by cking

Mathis is defrauding people and you are cheering him on. Hope you are proud of yourself.

Nahhh if he truly is "defrauding" people that's his business. He'll have to meet his creator and answer for his actions one day... I'm not his judge.

Remember... I said doing such things is unethical. Not sure how that "cheers him on".

We are still talking about baseball cards though. And please explain... Based on "the Law"... honestly... what has he done illegally?

cypher · 12-20-2019, 02:12 AM

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Originally Posted by scottagibson

Nahhh if he truly is "defrauding" people that's his business. He'll have to meet his creator and answer for his actions one day... I'm not his judge.

Remember... I said doing such things is unethical. Not sure how that "cheers him on".

We are still talking about baseball cards though. And please explain... Based on "the Law"... honestly... what has he done illegally?

Spoken like someone that has never been scammed before.

metsandweezer · 12-20-2019, 02:14 AM

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Originally Posted by scottagibson

Nahhh if he truly is "defrauding" people that's his business. He'll have to meet his creator and answer for his actions one day... I'm not his judge.

Remember... I said doing such things is unethical. Not sure how that "cheers him on".

We are still talking about baseball cards though. And please explain... Based on "the Law"... honestly... what has he done illegally?

pennywise the clown has officially entered the thread.

toshoegaze · 12-20-2019, 02:18 AM

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Originally Posted by chezball

cause he's BODA, duh. Nice first post.

The 1952 Mantle was worked on? I do not think so.

scottagibson · 12-20-2019, 02:20 AM

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Originally Posted by metsandweezer

pennywise the clown has officially entered the thread.

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Originally Posted by cypher

Spoken like someone that has never been scammed before.

Really not understanding these responses. No... I haven't been scammed... that I can recall and I'm not sure who pennywise the clown is.

dizzydolse · 12-20-2019, 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by scottagibson

Really not understanding these responses. No... I haven't been scammed... that I can recall and I'm not sure who pennywise the clown is.

He's just saying you're a clown and people think you're a joke. Pennywise was the clown in the movie "IT" if I'm not mistaken. It was a horror movie. So maybe he's not saying you're a joke, but a horrible scary person that nobody likes or has any desire to be around. Not sure though.

chezball · 12-20-2019, 02:34 AM

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Originally Posted by toshoegaze

The 1952 Mantle was worked on? I do not think so.

you must be his brother.

metsandweezer · 12-20-2019, 02:40 AM

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Originally Posted by dizzydolse

He's just saying you're a clown and people think you're a joke. Pennywise was the clown in the movie "IT" if I'm not mistaken. It was a horror movie. So maybe he's not saying you're a joke, but a horrible scary person that nobody likes or has any desire to be around. Not sure though.

I’m just saying he’s a clown and thought pennywise would be a good example

12-20-2019, 12:40 AM	#129
pete2345 Banned Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Birthplace of Michael Jordan home of biggie smalls! Posts: 4,125	I wonder if he gets or gives more trim?

12-20-2019, 12:48 AM	#131
ToppsFB Member Join Date: Oct 2019 Location: Castle Rock, CO Posts: 244	All the more reason to not pay for the high end graded stuff. I like 5s, 6s, and 7s because you can see the edge touches and subtle wear which means you know it is unaltered. I look through my stuff from the 50s and 60s and you can tell the blades that cut these cards years ago was not the sharpest blade on the planet but that tells me it is unaltered. Pretty tough to recreate that kind of authentic cut.

12-20-2019, 01:56 AM	#141
cypher Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 958	The NFL should be pissed that a former player is committing fraud. I watched a video showcasing his collection and the dude seemed a little off.