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Old 09-26-2025, 10:14 AM   #126
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There’s a couple sneaky names, overall underwhelming. If anyone is interested in those names shoot me a Dm and I’ll happily provide 😎
So, you're an Oracle, is that what you're saying?


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Old 09-26-2025, 10:23 AM   #127
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Don't get tricked by inflated DSL stats.

Don't get tricked by repeating a season in DSL.

Don't get tricked by a great season from a 19+ year old in DSL.

Don't get tricked by a great season from an 18+ year old in DSL.

Don't get tricked by a .350 batting average in the DSL.

DSL stats should only be used to shrink the pool of players you're buying, not to target any player!
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Old 09-26-2025, 11:02 AM   #128
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I preordered a box from Topps when first offered. My box last year sucked as far as the hits, but I love the cards themselves and just enjoy opening so wanted to give a box a try again this year. I was nervous when my shipment came from Topps and the shipping box was destroyed-completely smashed on one side. I opened it and saw a little damage to the card box on one side but not enough that could say cards were definitely damaged. I decided to risk it and opened it, glad I did:
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Old 09-26-2025, 11:04 AM   #129
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Old 09-26-2025, 12:25 PM   #130
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Don't get tricked by inflated DSL stats.

Don't get tricked by repeating a season in DSL.

Don't get tricked by a great season from a 19+ year old in DSL.

Don't get tricked by a great season from an 18+ year old in DSL.

Don't get tricked by a .350 batting average in the DSL.

DSL stats should only be used to shrink the pool of players you're buying, not to target any player!
But that's how I targeted Emil Morales last year...
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Old 09-26-2025, 03:28 PM   #131
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But that's how I targeted Emil Morales last year...
My picking with DSL prospects is not historically good, but I think Bowman Chrome enthusiasts also wildly underestimate the % which bust the moment they hit stateside ball.

Rayner Arias .414/.539/.793 slash line (lol) only to fold the moment he stepped stateside.

Yasser Mercedes.. .355/.420/.555

Malcolm Nunez - .415/.497/.774

It's weird to sort by OPS through past DSL years, and see that in many instances, none of the top 20 made the bigs, and then see an all-star tucked away at, like, 39th on the list.

The guys that became good players have surprisingly not put up jaw-dropping DSL stats.

Jackson Chouiro - .296/.386/.447
Junior Caminero - .295/.380/.534

Obviously, there's a lot more that goes into it, but I tricked myself into buying Pedro Pineda and Samuel Munoz' swings.

I cannot imagine how frustrating it must be to be a DSL coach. It is truly weirdo baseball. The Rockies team hit .285 while the the Cubs Red team hit .215. The number of pitchers that can't throw strikes create the weirdest statlines.
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Old 09-27-2025, 01:47 AM   #132
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I'm with Boredlawyer on this one. DSL stats tell you almost nothing. For every Emil Morales there are going to be 5 flops.

Even in the case of Emil Morales, a guy near the tippy-top of possible outcomes for his age 18 season; 1) if you bought at release, you got crushed. 2) even if you timed it perfectly you're only up 20%...not even enough to cover fees and shipping on the resale.

The key to success with DSL guys is young and cheap.
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Old 09-27-2025, 07:36 AM   #133
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Anyone know whats up with Ching-Hisen Ko redemptions?

There are ones of his BCP and his CPA auto. Are they both autos or are the BCP ones just a nonauto color card?
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Old 09-27-2025, 08:12 AM   #134
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Do most top prospects end up with a Bowman 1st eventually. For example Florintino on the Pirates? Will his likely come next year in Bowman or BC? Bowman draft is just draft prospects right?
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Old 09-27-2025, 08:31 AM   #135
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Opened 1 case of hobby, 1 case of delight, and 4 loose boxes of Hobby. Also was in about 10 cases of cardinals in breaks.

No monsters, but I did pretty well on the boxes

Best of:
Kurtz Auto
Pena speckle auto
Arroyo refractor auto
Morii Refractor auto
Kurtz gold refractor and blue refractor
Red Ramcell Medina
Orange fitz Gerald auto
Cris Rodriguez blue refractor
Kale Fountain Gold
A ton of other solid cards

Breaks I struggled. I hit 2 base and 1 mojo Rainiel

It helped that I paid $4550 for the cases. If I paid closer to going rates I think I woudnt feel great about it.

Also Hobby>>>>>> Delight from what I’ve seen in breaks.

I’d be tempted to break 1x hobby vs. 2 x delight for the same price

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Old 09-27-2025, 12:36 PM   #136
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Got a box with some fancash I had, feel like I did really good? Admittedly not paying much attention to prospects anymore, but Morii /399 and De Los Santos seems to be rare. Pair of Ohtani numbered and Kurtz Red Rookie are pretty sweet.




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Old 09-27-2025, 06:18 PM   #137
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So can someone explain, is this the same card, or are there 2 different image variations of the base:


Base – Rookie Short Print Image Variations
3 Dylan Crews

Base – Image Variations
3 Dylan Crews

Am confused if this is the same card just listed twice on the Beckett checklist, or if there is 2 image variations!?

Anyone.....
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Old 09-27-2025, 06:57 PM   #138
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I'd say it's just a typo
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Old 09-27-2025, 09:22 PM   #139
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I'd say it's just a typo
Ya am thinking so, even the odds direct from Topps just show for 1 image variation not 2
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Old 09-28-2025, 03:08 PM   #140
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So, you're an Oracle, is that what you're saying?


See my profile pic. Had around 100 Soto BC autos at one point.
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Old 09-28-2025, 05:22 PM   #141
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We had this pulled today, all of the autographs are 1/5





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Old 09-28-2025, 07:57 PM   #142
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We had this pulled today, all of the autographs are 1/5
So awesome! Love seeing folks here getting lucky w/ these packs

Is the Tomas #'d also?

I was under the impression that every card in these special packs were autos.
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Old 09-28-2025, 08:34 PM   #143
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Got my birthday box arriving from Topps tomorrow. Not sure when the last time I opened something like this was. Expecting to get destroyed. Will report back!
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Old 09-28-2025, 08:41 PM   #144
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I can live with getting thrashed on this. I get it, they’ve increased print runs dramatically and raised the prices on this. (Not as bad as some other products, but still by a lot). I get the game of: 3 pitcher autos in 2 boxes (unusual for chrome). I get that the lowest number is /99. I can live with that knowing that there’s some more expensive case hits and lower number cards in this.

What I don’t get is: when I only get maybe $50 in value out of 2 hobby boxes, all of the base cards are absolutely garbage condition. The scratch on the Layton was pretty common. Just embarrassing. I think I reached my boiling point on anything other than flagship and graded singles.


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Old 09-28-2025, 11:41 PM   #145
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Yes the quality of 2025 Bowman, 2025 Bowman Chrome, and most other Topps releases is 100% complete dog*hit.

How anyone gives Michael Rubin there money is a great mystery to me.
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Old 09-29-2025, 08:25 PM   #146
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Got my birthday box today. Can’t complain about a bonus autograph. The blue De La Cruz is 001/150.


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Old 09-30-2025, 06:44 AM   #147
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I've been interested in watching Ching-Hsien Ko Auto Redemptions pop out of Bowman Chrome the past few days. So far, I've only seen True Colors, Refractors, and Base Autos. No Shimmers/Waves/Whatever other wierd variations out there. You would assume that if they existed at least a few of the less desirable ones would be on Ebay by now.

If you look up how he signs, it's a pretty involved signature, so guessing he negotiated to not sign all parallels as it would take forever. It's also probably why he is a redemption and no other prospect is from what I can tell.

Of course, he could end up crashing out and this all won't matter, but if he does pop there could be limited 1st bowman autos of his out in the wild.
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Got my birthday box today. Can’t complain about a bonus autograph. The blue De La Cruz is 001/150.
Wow, you did great! Congrats!
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Outside of breakers, no one is opening this at all, huh? I fully understand that, but still moderately surprised to see so few posts in this thread. Are people buying singles even? Post some cool stuff if you've got it!
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Outside of breakers, no one is opening this at all, huh? I fully understand that, but still moderately surprised to see so few posts in this thread. Are people buying singles even? Post some cool stuff if you've got it!
I like the revamped look of the Reptilian parallels in this release. I've purchased a couple of the Gold Reptilians. Haven't hit my mailbox yet though, so no pictures to share just yet, unfortunately.
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