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Old 12-12-2022, 02:39 PM   #15176
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As a Pats fan that has been watching Brady since day 1 this is getting sad. I knew if he kept playing eventually we'd get to this point. Should have retired after winning the Super Bowl. But it seems like no matter what Bucs do they will end up in the playoffs with 8-9 wins and then we get to see Brady get destroyed by whoever they play in first round. Brady needs to go off to Germany and get his blood spun before the playoffs.
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Old 12-12-2022, 03:50 PM   #15177
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I for one would not be surprised by this.

The NFL should alter the playoff format though so the team with the better record hosts the playoff game.
No they shouldn't. Teams that win their division deserve the reward of winning their division.
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Old 12-12-2022, 03:57 PM   #15178
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As a Pats fan that has been watching Brady since day 1 this is getting sad.
By Brady's standards, he is having a bad year.... but he isn't exactly making a fool of himself out there. The team is bad (and coaching is even worse) but if we were to project out Brady's stats, we would have...

498-757 (65.8%) for 4,688 yards with 22 TD's against 7 INT's.

If he wants to play next year, there are definitely a couple team where he would be a great fit (and he certainly remains light years ahead of anyone NE has tried to replace him with)
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Old 12-12-2022, 04:18 PM   #15179
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By Brady's standards, he is having a bad year.... but he isn't exactly making a fool of himself out there. The team is bad (and coaching is even worse) but if we were to project out Brady's stats, we would have...

498-757 (65.8%) for 4,688 yards with 22 TD's against 7 INT's.

If he wants to play next year, there are definitely a couple team where he would be a great fit (and he certainly remains light years ahead of anyone NE has tried to replace him with)
I agree with everything you said. But I've watched almost every Brady game this year and he doesn't look good. Yes coaching and schemes suck and yes his stats still look good in a vacuum but when you watch him he's definitely lost a couple of steps and he's lost a noticeable amount off his fastball/deep ball. He used to be able to zip the ball in between double coverage to his receiver over the middle and now whenever he does that I hold my breath because he's close to getting picked off. His offense line is hurt and guys that are healthy suck so that isn't helping anything. But Godwin and Evans are still elite receivers and I can't count the amount of times he's just made bad throws to those guys where they can't catch it or they are catching it off the ground or behind them so they can't make a play after the catch and those are things that Brady was great at in the past.

If he keeps playing next year I don't know where there is a great situation for him. LV with McDaniels? Tenn with Vrable? The next over the hill QB in Indy? Back to the Pats to finish out there?
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Old 12-12-2022, 04:22 PM   #15180
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No they shouldn't. Teams that win their division deserve the reward of winning their division.
They are getting rewarded by making the playoffs when they would be the 8th seed and not even in the playoffs outside of the division.
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Old 12-12-2022, 04:26 PM   #15181
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No they shouldn't. Teams that win their division deserve the reward of winning their division.

Divisions shouldn't even exist because this is what happens.


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Old 12-12-2022, 05:30 PM   #15182
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No. One of the great things about the NFL is divisional rivalry.

Pats, Fins, Jets, Bills...rivalry goes out the window when you get rid of divisions. Terrible idea.
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Old 12-12-2022, 05:51 PM   #15183
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Keep divisions. Just let the more deserving team host the playoff game. Seed by record alone.
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Old 12-12-2022, 05:54 PM   #15184
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No. One of the great things about the NFL is divisional rivalry.

Pats, Fins, Jets, Bills...rivalry goes out the window when you get rid of divisions. Terrible idea.

Keep all the rivalries on the schedule that you want, just get rid of the divisions or don't take division winners into account for seeding and just seed by record instead. You shouldn't get rewarded with something as important as a home playoff game for sucking the least.


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Old 12-12-2022, 05:57 PM   #15185
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This doesn't go far enough. Get rid of conferences so that only the best teams make the playoffs. And any potential ties should be awarded to teams who regularly reach the playoffs, even if they have an off year.
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Old 12-12-2022, 09:45 PM   #15186
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Keep all the rivalries on the schedule that you want, just get rid of the divisions or don't take division winners into account for seeding and just seed by record instead. You shouldn't get rewarded with something as important as a home playoff game for sucking the least.
They should keep it the same. Anyone complaining about unfairness needs to shut up and win their division. In the playoffs, the cream will rise to the top.
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Old 12-12-2022, 10:19 PM   #15187
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They should keep it the same. Anyone complaining about unfairness needs to shut up and win their division. In the playoffs, the cream will rise to the top.
Agreed, no reason to change. There is a reason you play the teams in your Division twice. But yeah, I don't want to play Tom Brady either.
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Old 12-13-2022, 11:30 PM   #15188
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What you need to understand is that no team plays every other team in a 17 game season. Every team has a different strength of schedule.

You can have an overrated 12-5 or 11-6 team.

It's inexact, so there's really nothing wrong with the way it is now.
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Old 12-13-2022, 11:36 PM   #15189
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They should keep it the same. Anyone complaining about unfairness needs to shut up and win their division. In the playoffs, the cream will rise to the top.
Another great game this past weekend. Like the Brady fan above said. It is sad to watch.
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Old 12-13-2022, 11:49 PM   #15190
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Another great game this past weekend. Like the Brady fan above said. It is sad to watch.
You live kind of a miserable life, don’t you? Haha
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Old 12-14-2022, 02:01 PM   #15191
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You live kind of a miserable life, don’t you? Haha
+1 +1 +1 it's sad to see someone's entire reason for being here is to troll fans of a QB whom he obsessively, irrationally hates.
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Old 12-14-2022, 02:32 PM   #15192
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What you need to understand is that no team plays every other team in a 17 game season. Every team has a different strength of schedule.

You can have an overrated 12-5 or 11-6 team.

It's inexact, so there's really nothing wrong with the way it is now.

In a league with no divisions and two conferences they could play every other team in their conference plus keep a couple rivalry games. While there could still be some schedule imbalance in the conferences it would be much less pronounced than how it currently is with the division set up.

No matter how much it should, This is obviously never going to happen because it's too big of a change. The compromise is seeding the playoffs based on record, not if you won your division or not. In no logical world should the Bucs have a home game when the Eagles/Cowboys would not.
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Old 12-14-2022, 07:04 PM   #15193
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+1 +1 +1 it's sad to see someone's entire reason for being here is to troll fans of a QB whom he obsessively, irrationally hates.
I know it's bothering you Brady collectors knowing his career is coming to an end and the way its ending. Everyone use to give me a fit when Favre was doing the same but it didn't bother me the way it seems to bother the Brady fans. I promise you it will be OK and the sun will shine tomorrow. I don't have one thing against Brady but I know when time has caught up to someone.
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Old 12-14-2022, 07:50 PM   #15194
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I know it's bothering you Brady collectors knowing his career is coming to an end and the way its ending. Everyone use to give me a fit when Favre was doing the same but it didn't bother me the way it seems to bother the Brady fans. I promise you it will be OK and the sun will shine tomorrow. I don't have one thing against Brady but I know when time has caught up to someone.
He was also too old, washed up and declining due to his age in 2019...ahh was lack of critical talent then too.

Look he's had an amazing career and I've loved every minute of it. If the coaching wasn't putrid and his O line terrible...he'd still look great. The way to defeat Brady even when he was 30 was to pressure him...now teams get to pressure him every snap.

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Old 12-14-2022, 07:55 PM   #15195
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What you need to understand is that no team plays every other team in a 17 game season. Every team has a different strength of schedule.

You can have an overrated 12-5 or 11-6 team.

It's inexact, so there's really nothing wrong with the way it is now.
Vikings will be the poster child for overrated 12-5 or 11-6 team this year
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He was also too old, washed up and declining due to his age in 2019...ahh was lack of critical talent then too.

Look he's had an amazing career and I've loved every minute of it. If the coaching wasn't putrid and his O line terrible...he'd still look great. The way to defeat Brady even when he was 30 was to pressure him...now teams get to pressure him every snap.
Exactly. People act like he’s falling off a cliff like Manning. He can still get it done. But the coaching staff and O line aren’t doing him any favors. If they can somehow get Jensen and the line relatively healthy and sneak into the playoffs, anything can happen.
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Old 12-14-2022, 08:17 PM   #15197
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Exactly. People act like he’s falling off a cliff like Manning. He can still get it done. But the coaching staff and O line aren’t doing him any favors. If they can somehow get Jensen and the line relatively healthy and sneak into the playoffs, anything can happen.
So it's all the Offensive Line and the coaching staffs fault? So Brady has no blame in this terrible season? So all the over throws and under throws aren't his fault? Just asking so don't go getting all offensive. No doubt in my mind he is the best ever he will be like all other great QB's he doesn't know when to quit. I understand that is all he knows.
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Old 12-14-2022, 08:21 PM   #15198
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So it's all the Offensive Line and the coaching staffs fault? So Brady has no blame in this terrible season? So all the over throws and under throws aren't his fault? Just asking so don't go getting all offensive. No doubt in my mind he is the best ever he will be like all other great QB's he doesn't know when to quit. I understand that is all he knows.
Give it a rest, man.
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Give it a rest, man.
Lol he just reads what he wants and replies to what he wants to read. Slightly sad.
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Old 12-14-2022, 08:26 PM   #15200
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Exactly. People act like he’s falling off a cliff like Manning. He can still get it done. But the coaching staff and O line aren’t doing him any favors. If they can somehow get Jensen and the line relatively healthy and sneak into the playoffs, anything can happen.
+1

His standards are so high that when he is "only" a top-10 QB in the League this year, it is seen as being atrocious. Fact is 20 teams would be doing better if they had Brady on their team - INCLUDING the team that just whupped Tampa Bay last Sunday.

Brock Purdy is the NFL's newest darling.... and if San Fran could trade him straight up for Brady (which I know can't happen at this point in the season) they would do it in a heartbeat.

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