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Old 10-26-2020, 01:06 PM   #1526
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The prices for these ball relics (no auto) .. they only make sense to me if it's the actual ball from the play in the picture. But it's not that ball right?

For clarity, I'm talking about card 474. Obviously if the play is a homerun .. it's not going to be the ball. But in the case of a tag out at home. It's feasible to think Topps could get that ball.

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Old 10-26-2020, 01:10 PM   #1527
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The prices for these ball relics (no auto) .. they only make sense to me if it's the actual ball from the play in the picture. But it's not that ball right?
Likely a ball fouled off behind the plate.
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Old 10-26-2020, 01:12 PM   #1528
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The prices for these ball relics (no auto) .. they only make sense to me if it's the actual ball from the play in the picture. But it's not that ball right?

For clarity, I'm talking about card 474. Obviously if the play is a homerun .. it's not going to be the ball. But in the case of a tag out at home. It's feasible to think Topps could get that ball.
It's possible but, obviously, they're not going to guarantee that. I've taken the liberty of looking up a base and a ball from ebay photos on their authentication so you can see what they promise:

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JC831562: Swatch of game used 3rd base COL vs PHI 5/17/19. Original Hologram# JD789611. BRENDAN RODGERS TOP PROSPECT GATHERS RBI IN 1ST MLB AT BAT

JC739799: Swatch of game used baseball HOU vs WAS 10/26/19. Original Hologram# JD781275. JOSE URQUIDY 4TH ROOKIE IN LAST 30 YEARS WITH SCORELESS WORLD SERIES START
If you look up the hologram of the ball, it does in fact say the batter, the pitcher and what the result was (in this case) "Foul - Two-Seam Fastball - Pitch Number: 5, Pitch Speed: 92.5 MPH, Balls 2 Strikes 2."
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Old 10-26-2020, 01:14 PM   #1529
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The prices for these ball relics (no auto) .. they only make sense to me if it's the actual ball from the play in the picture. But it's not that ball right?

For clarity, I'm talking about card 474. Obviously if the play is a homerun .. it's not going to be the ball. But in the case of a tag out at home. It's feasible to think Topps could get that ball.
I think it's a random ball.
But I'm also not sure how hard/easy it is, and how expensive it is to get a World Series game-used baseball even if it's just a random ball.
So, not sure how justifiable the price is.
I think the Brett Phillips would have been worth it just being "part of the game", but I think this out at home (home steal attempt) isn't that worthy of getting a baseball relic card.
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Old 10-26-2020, 01:20 PM   #1530
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It's possible but, obviously, they're not going to guarantee that. I've taken the liberty of looking up a base and a ball from ebay photos on their authentication so you can see what they promise:
Thanks for taking the time. I really appreciate it.
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Old 10-26-2020, 01:25 PM   #1531
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This is a really weak showing for yesterday's game.
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Old 10-26-2020, 01:28 PM   #1532
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I'm surprised at how fast everything is selling.
Only left on the page are the Kershaw relics /49 and /25.
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Old 10-26-2020, 01:30 PM   #1533
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Cards are up.
That Kershaw non-auto relic lingers, still available yet the team card went fast.

I would think a player card would go faster than a generic team card from a spec investing valuation standpoint, but from a fan's standpoint maybe the team card is more popular.

I know in the world of relic cards pulled out of packs, even the numbered ones of all-stars, a lot are surprisingly worth $3-10, so that $100+ price tag is more for the impulsive fan consumer to delve into regardless of the price comps (you can get a Kershaw jersey, ball or base type relic card cheaper for a non-Topps Now release) because it is The World Series.

I've gotten into the hype and bought the card as a fan knowing I probably can't resell it for profits.
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Old 10-26-2020, 01:31 PM   #1534
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This is a really weak showing for yesterday's game.
It was a fairly straightforward game without twists and turns...a real business approach by the Dodgers to get the win. 8 cards seems much for the day but I am glad the relievers got some love (I have plenty of sympathy for pitchers in general for some reason and I feel like they are under appreciated in the hobby in general but it is what it is).
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Old 10-26-2020, 01:35 PM   #1535
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That Kershaw non-auto relic lingers, still available yet the team card went fast.

I would think a player card would go faster than a generic team card from a spec investing valuation standpoint, but from a fan's standpoint maybe the team card is more popular.

I know in the world of relic cards pulled out of packs, even the numbered ones of all-stars, a lot are surprisingly worth $3-10, so that $100+ price tag is more for the impulsive fan consumer to delve into regardless of the price comps (you can get a Kershaw jersey, ball or base type relic card cheaper for a non-Topps Now release) because it is The World Series.

I've gotten into the hype and bought the card as a fan knowing I probably can't resell it for profits.
Are you referring to the baseball relic (Margot out at home) when you say the "team card"?
If so, the reason why that one has sold out already is mostly due to the fact that there are only 16 of those cards available (/10, /5, and 1/1).
On the other hand, Kershaw relic (which very unlikely for Kershaw to have stepped on) has/had options up to /99.
By the way, there are only /49 and /25 options remaining for Kershaw too. Other serials have sold out.
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Old 10-26-2020, 01:38 PM   #1536
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I got a /49 Kershaw.

I think him winning the game and being 2-0 in the WS had a lot to do with it. Considering he's been known as a post-season dud... he's turned it around.
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I got a /49 Kershaw.

I think him winning the game and being 2-0 in the WS had a lot to do with it. Considering he's been known as a post-season dud... he's turned it around.
Yeah, his 2008 Topps Update RC seems to be soaring now as well.
PSA 10 is doubling in sold prices in this 1-2 months span.
Yesterday was his proof to have broken out of the Postseason choke spell (unless he comes out to close Game 6/7 and chokes there).
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Old 10-26-2020, 01:53 PM   #1538
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All relics, autos sold out.
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Old 10-26-2020, 02:18 PM   #1539
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I want to buy the Arozarena record cards, but I feel as if as soon as he gets another hit (or two, or three) that card is worthless. Guess I'll just wait for the final game cards and see what comes up.
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Old 10-26-2020, 02:18 PM   #1540
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It’s definitely a random ball and it’s certainly not going to be the ball from that play. Topps doesnt even feel compelled to match a ball pitched by a featured starting pitcher on a /5 or /10 relic card.
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Old 10-26-2020, 02:46 PM   #1541
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In the old Beckett's, this would be Gonzalez's FTC right?
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Old 10-26-2020, 02:48 PM   #1542
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I want to buy the Arozarena record cards, but I feel as if as soon as he gets another hit (or two, or three) that card is worthless. Guess I'll just wait for the final game cards and see what comes up.
I would assume today's was the last one.
He broke both the Postseason HR and hits record.
I don't think there are other records to break at this point, unless people come up with some WS specific records.

I didn't buy today's because I have already spent my money on below.
But if I didn't have the first two mentioned below (or even just the 421A), I might have dove into it.

-399D Auto baseball relic /10
"5th Rookie ever with 4 HRs in a Postseason"

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"Matched Rookie record with 6th Postseason HR"

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"Named ALCS MVP after rookie record setting series"

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"MLB record 9th HR in a single Postseason"
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Old 10-26-2020, 02:53 PM   #1543
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I want to buy the Arozarena record cards, but I feel as if as soon as he gets another hit (or two, or three) that card is worthless. Guess I'll just wait for the final game cards and see what comes up.
And if he gets no more hits? Well, then those cards are worth everything and more.

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I would assume today's was the last one.
He broke both the Postseason HR and hits record.
I don't think there are other records to break at this point, unless people come up with some WS specific records.
I think the question is if Topps is going to have cards that read "MLB record 10th HR in a single Postseason" for however many hits he gets each subsequent game.

I don't think they do that kind of thing but can't think of an example like this. I also wouldn't put it past topps ...
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Old 10-26-2020, 02:59 PM   #1544
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Quick question. Were there COTM produced this year?
July: Back in Business
August: Robert
Sept: Bauer (I received mine today)
Oct: should be Randy's records
Nov: should be WS winner
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Is there even a link for October COTM?
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Dodger fans are hoping Seager can break Randy's record tomorrow night with two more homers (which would put Corey at 10) in a Dodger win.
Even if the record ends up at 9 HR's for the postseason, that's one that could stand for some time.

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It’s definitely a random ball and it’s certainly not going to be the ball from that play. Topps doesnt even feel compelled to match a ball pitched by a featured starting pitcher on a /5 or /10 relic card.
I feel most relics are going to be random as you cite, as many artifacts might be spoken for by the players who want them or the teams and league, so Topps only has to deliver these small 1" square pieces cut from any remnant ball, base, bat or jersey that was at the game, sometimes not even used.

I remember hearing card companies having players put on uniforms for a few seconds to take a photo and legally document to then claim was worn by a player.

I wouldn't put it past Topps to even just use any base or ball as tokenism as a relic on the cards, since most people like the individual numbering and/or autographs with less regard for a 1" square piece of the action. I guess we'll need to read the backs of the cards to see how Topps lawyered up their language in describing the relics featured.

I think it's just symbolic as tools of the trade for the game and aesthetically nice looking to see these limited edition cards.

They're getting expensive to collect 'tho, so I hope the Dodgers closes the series in Game 6, so I don't have to spend $500+ on cards for every game
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I feel most relics are going to be random as you cite, as many artifacts might be spoken for by the players who want them or the teams and league, so Topps only has to deliver these small 1" square pieces cut from any remnant ball, base, bat or jersey that was at the game, sometimes not even used.

I remember hearing card companies having players put on uniforms for a few seconds to take a photo and legally document to then claim was worn by a player.

I wouldn't put it past Topps to even just use any base or ball as tokenism as a relic on the cards, since most people like the individual numbering and/or autographs with less regard for a 1" square piece of the action. I guess we'll need to read the backs of the cards to see how Topps lawyered up their language in describing the relics featured.

I think it's just symbolic as tools of the trade for the game and aesthetically nice looking to see these limited edition cards.

They're getting expensive to collect 'tho, so I hope the Dodgers closes the series in Game 6, so I don't have to spend $500+ on cards for every game
All Topps Now relics have MLB authentication hologram on them, so it will at least be from that particular game as dated on the card.
Looking up those authentication numbers on MLB Authentication website is pretty fun.
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Old 10-26-2020, 05:12 PM   #1549
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What three autographs are on the winning teams card if the Dodgers win?

Rays win?
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Old 10-26-2020, 05:15 PM   #1550
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What three autographs are on the winning teams card if the Dodgers win?

Dreaming: Seager, Betts, Buehler
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