2020 Politics Thread - Enter At Your Own Risk - RULES IN OP

[Jgil316]

Originally Posted by GoTribe!!!

I"m not the one that that politizes US deaths by posting them like some sick scoreboard in attempt to blame Trump.

Trump blew off the Covid threat and instead:
Golfed
Held rallies
Dismissed this as a democratic hoax


THEN

Lied about shutting off travel from China (seriously, look into what this really entailed - it was NOT a shut down)
Told us it was going to be no worse than the flu
Told us in March "Anyone who wants a test can have a test"


THEN

Said he was "TOO" busy dealing with the impeachment to focus on the virus (timeline is wrong buddy)


THEN

Blamed the previous administration for depleted stocks (Trump 2020 budget asked for a cut to the stock pile...if it was so low - why cut funding)
Blamed the previous administration for broken tests (for a virus that had never been seen when they were there)


THEN


Says that 100,000 people dead is good (paraphrase) as he TRIES like all h#ll to get "shiny penny" folks to fall for his shtick , YET AGAIN with "OBAMAGATE" and mask shaming



This guy and his crew - promised you the moon and delivered a turd - and when the smoke settles, you will find out EXACTLY how corrupt he and his family is / are.

[NeedChapmans]

Originally Posted by zachtruitt

When you can discharge your debts and make it all go away while reaping the benefits of loopholes, tax breaks and screw the people/banks you owe money to, then, yeah, I guess that is success. Stepping on and stiffing people who worked for you in good faith is not success to me but to each his own.

God Bless America.

[discostu]

Originally Posted by Astros19

Anybody think Abraham Lincoln was a bad president?

https://www.investopedia.com/financi...kruptcies.aspx

From the biased snopes......

https://www.snopes.com/news/2016/08/...-bankruptcies/

Six business bankruptcy's out of 500 businesses. Such an utter failure.

Remember when Lincoln ran on his business prowess?

That was awesome.

[Jgil316]

Originally Posted by Astros19

Anybody think Abraham Lincoln was a bad president?

https://www.investopedia.com/financi...kruptcies.aspx

From the biased snopes......

https://www.snopes.com/news/2016/08/...-bankruptcies/

Six business bankruptcy's out of 500 businesses. Such an utter failure.

If I read that correctly...... Lincoln took 17 years to pay back the debt......


Trump owes people MILLIONS and keeps them tied up in court with appeal after appeal......

[Astros19]

Originally Posted by discostu

Remember when Lincoln ran on his business prowess?

That was awesome.

Six businesses out of 500 ain't too shabby scooby.
Jealous much?

[Astros19]

Originally Posted by Jgil316

If I read that correctly...... Lincoln took 17 years to pay back the debt......


Trump owes people MILLIONS and keeps them tied up in court with appeal after appeal......

Please enlighten me, is that illegal? We have a justice system for a reason. Do you think you're important enough that you get to decide who's right and who's wrong, or are you just being political.
My money's on the second answer.

[NeedChapmans]

Originally Posted by Jgil316

If I read that correctly...... Lincoln took 17 years to pay back the debt......


Trump owes people MILLIONS and keeps them tied up in court with appeal after appeal......

Pretty sure Booth was a disgruntled investor.

[Jgil316]

Originally Posted by Astros19

Six businesses out of 500 ain't too shabby scooby.
Jealous much?

No, not jealous.

Lincoln WAS a LEADER and a PRESIDENT during a horrific time


Trump is NOT a leader (in ANY capacity) during a horrific time

[mattglet]

Originally Posted by Astros19

Please enlighten me, is that illegal? We have a justice system for a reason. Do you think you're important enough that you get to decide who's right and who's wrong, or are you just being political.
My money's on the second answer.

That's a good question a lot of people should ask themselves. Including you.

[Jgil316]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

Pretty sure Booth was a disgruntled investor.

OK - This made me spit my water out my nose....ahahahahaha

Thank you for that

[Jgil316]

Originally Posted by Astros19

Please enlighten me, is that illegal? We have a justice system for a reason. Do you think you're important enough that you get to decide who's right and who's wrong, or are you just being political.
My money's on the second answer.

No, not illegal - immoral yes

If you were one of those people, I am sure you would be singing another tune - but for now, since it doesn't impact you - he is perfect.

[Astros19]

Originally Posted by Jgil316

If I read that correctly...... Lincoln took 17 years to pay back the debt......


Trump owes people MILLIONS and keeps them tied up in court with appeal after appeal......

Well if you read that right then you also conveniently left out the other bankruptcy. Why?
And 17 years to pay it back? Like that's a good thing?
I wonder if the person he owed money would agree with you.
He was such a bad president, along with Thomas Jefferson (several times in fact!), Ulysses S. Grant, and William McKinley.

[hostilecarrot]

Did Mexico pay for the wall yet?

[Astros19]

Originally Posted by Jgil316

No, not jealous.

Lincoln WAS a LEADER and a PRESIDENT during a horrific time


Trump is NOT a leader (in ANY capacity) during a horrific time

I bet half the country would have disagreed with you, on both statements.

[Astros19]

Originally Posted by Jgil316

No, not illegal - immoral yes

If you were one of those people, I am sure you would be singing another tune - but for now, since it doesn't impact you - he is perfect.

Pray tell, when did I ever claim he was perfect. I'm just adding the entire story instead of the half truths some of you keep spewing.

[NeedChapmans]

Originally Posted by Astros19

I bet half the country would have disagreed with you, on both statements.

Again I will plug "Grant" on the History Channel. Fantastic series concludes tonight at 9pm ET. Highly recommended.

[hostilecarrot]

Originally Posted by Astros19

I bet half the country would have disagreed with you, on both statements.

To be clear, you are talking about the half that fought a war to protect the institution of slavery.

[Jgil316]

Originally Posted by Astros19

Well if you read that right then you also conveniently left out the other bankruptcy. Why?
And 17 years to pay it back? Like that's a good thing?
I wonder if the person he owed money would agree with you.
He was such a bad president, along with Thomas Jefferson (several times in fact!), Ulysses S. Grant, and William McKinley.

I read the about "other" bankruptcies - as for being a "bad" president, why do you say that?

When I think of "bad" presidents, I think of:
Buchanan
Pierce
Taylor
Johnson
Harding
Trump

[discostu]

Originally Posted by Astros19

Six businesses out of 500 ain't too shabby scooby.
Jealous much?

How many of those are more than licensing deals where he simply signed his naming rights?

(Not a "gotcha", truly curious.)

As for Trump's business acumen, he is an incredibly skilled marketer. I've never denied that. He created and perfected an image of success...and then success followed. Hats off to him.

But I don't think anyone would want him running their business. He's a name and a figurehead...and he's done a great job with that.

[Jgil316]

Originally Posted by hostilecarrot

To be clear, you are talking about the half that fought a war to protect the institution of slavery.

You beat me to it - thank you

[discostu]

I love some old fashioned, tangential outrage.

When the going gets tough, shift directions.

Squirrel!

[Jgil316]

Originally Posted by discostu

How many of those are more than licensing deals where he simply signed his naming rights?

(Not a "gotcha", truly curious.)

As for Trump's business acumen, he is an incredibly skilled marketer. I've never denied that. He created and perfected an image of success...and then success followed. Hats off to him.

But I don't think anyone would want him running their business. He's a name and a figurehead...and he's done a great job with that.

I believe that Dane Cook followed the Trump playbook ........

Tell people you are.....
Self promote
Find gullible people to believe you


Step back and make $$$$$ before they find out you are in over you head and can't deliver

[Astros19]

Originally Posted by hostilecarrot

Did Mexico pay for the wall yet?

Not exactly paid, for but I believe what Trump has said and done has had a much greater impact deterring illegal immigration than what any other president in current history has ever done.
Hell we have politicians in left leaning states wanting to give illegals stimulus money. Does that help or hurt fighting against illegal immigration? In my eyes it's like sending out an open invitation.

https://www.politifact.com/factcheck...rs-trump-said/


Common sense ain't so common anymore.

[Astros19]

Originally Posted by hostilecarrot

To be clear, you are talking about the half that fought a war to protect the institution of slavery.

Yep, Democrats.

[Astros19]

Originally Posted by Jgil316

I read the about "other" bankruptcies - as for being a "bad" president, why do you say that?

When I think of "bad" presidents, I think of:
Buchanan
Pierce
Taylor
Johnson
Harding
Trump

Sorry, no sarcasm font.