The OFFICIAL 2022 NBA Offseason thread - Page 64

tjforce · 10-06-2022, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by brewtown107

Triple single in his 1st game back. Mid season form.

Yep. Extrapolate that over a full game, add in the stellar defense he was playing, and the Nets are getting everything they want out of him.

rhigh2390 · 10-06-2022, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by tjforce

Yep. Extrapolate that over a full game, add in the stellar defense he was playing, and the Nets are getting everything they want out of him.

Nomad · 10-06-2022, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Kingofkings1281

Sell! Sell! Sell!

Now, are you serious? Because I am committed to keeping the collection largely intact.

daeve · 10-06-2022, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by tjforce

Yep. Extrapolate that over a full game, add in the stellar defense he was playing, and the Nets are getting everything they want out of him.

https://streamable.com/ua2ynq

it's gonna be a great season for sure

brothertona · 10-06-2022, 12:10 PM

The Hawks are looking great - lots of Trae off-ball.

daeve · 10-06-2022, 12:26 PM

https://streamable.com/wss2zt

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LeBron James is asked for his thoughts on Victor Wembanyama: "Everybody’s been a unicorn over the last few years, but he’s more like an alien."

Bron specifically mentions his fluidity at his height, which I agree, is the biggest aspect of his game that doesn't make physical sense. Alien is a pretty accurate definition.

oshmeehan · 10-06-2022, 12:33 PM

Hawks fall down on EVERYTHING. Glad the Bucks don't have any players like that and actually play like men.

spurs50fan · 10-06-2022, 12:46 PM

I heard Ralph Sampson's name pop up and VW is definitely the upgraded version of that. But that's the closest comparison given the skill/height/frame. Durability, over time, has downgraded and that's probably everyone's concern but it's worth the shot.

tjforce · 10-06-2022, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by daeve

https://streamable.com/wss2zt

Bron specifically mentions his fluidity at his height, which I agree, is the biggest aspect of his game that doesn't make physical sense. Alien is a pretty accurate definition.

That's the thing I'll say in his defense.

He moves differently than anyone I've seen at that height.

Certainly the risk is still there, but hopefully whichever team drafts him will make it #1 priority to manage his health.... Even if it means a ramp up his first few years that isn't typical.

gomiamigo · 10-06-2022, 02:03 PM

https://twitter.com/sixers/status/1577815979354120193

Harden in midseason form, at least for one game.

indyguy · 10-06-2022, 02:11 PM

https://twitter.com/i/communities/1506779786747826184

I hope they fail just based on how PJ Tucker has his shorts pulled so far up. What a psycho.

tjforce · 10-06-2022, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by gomiamigo

https://twitter.com/sixers/status/1577815979354120193

Harden in midseason form, at least for one game.

So is his defense:

https://twitter.com/TheAthleticNBA/s...14166110355456

I urge you all to click the link for a good laugh.

brewtown107 · 10-06-2022, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by tjforce

Yep. Extrapolate that over a full game, add in the stellar defense he was playing, and the Nets are getting everything they want out of him.

Be careful that you don't double his halftime numbers when extrapolating, because we all know he doesn't play in the 4th quarter.

tjforce · 10-06-2022, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by brewtown107

Be careful that you don't double his halftime numbers when extrapolating, because we all know he doesn't play in the 4th quarter.

For his career, Ben Simmons averages 8.1 minutes played per game in the 4th quarter.

daeve · 10-06-2022, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by tjforce

For his career, Ben Simmons averages 8.1 minutes played per game in the 4th quarter.

How much of his stuff are you hoping to unload this year?

https://streamable.com/notcli

here's 2 TOs in 17 seconds vs Miami -- the 2nd one is so funny. The Heat actually choose to double the roll man, leaving Simmons wide open for a mid-range jumper [a shot that 95% of NBA Point guards can make] and because Simmons creates absolutely zero advantage after that PnR action, and the defense plays drop on him, it's essentially 5-on-4 and he throws it right into the hands of a defender.

This is in a pre-season game - he won't be anything near a PG by April if the Nets are hoping to sniff the playoffs. He needs to transition to a Draymond-type-role yesterday. Does Nash have the pull to be able to even make the suggestion? Will it somehow upset KD's feelings and KD ask for him to be fired again? Tune in next time on the fascinating Nets saga.

ninjacookies · 10-06-2022, 11:45 PM

Ben Simmons is the Russell Wilson of basketbol...without a ring.

daeve · 10-06-2022, 11:47 PM

For comparison, here's how the Hawks are looking with their new creator in PnR

https://streamable.com/9buosu

daeve · 10-06-2022, 11:50 PM

And here's Victor somehow starting to equal Lebron #1 pick hype

https://streamable.com/zbez6v

casual fadeaway corner 3.

https://streamable.com/uyu6g5

swat into ridiculous oop.

from Dame/Curry/Trae range? Sure, why not

https://streamable.com/qgm32j

drobfan8 · 10-07-2022, 02:00 AM

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Originally Posted by daeve

For comparison, here's how the Hawks are looking with their new creator in PnR

https://streamable.com/9buosu

You haven't played much serious basketball before have you? It shows.

The screeners do completely different things. That's nothing to do with Simmons.

Man, I actually just feel sorry for you. The time you spend thinking about Ben Simmons is really bad for your mental health. Have you seen someone about this?

hairyangryfella · 10-07-2022, 04:15 AM

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Originally Posted by drobfan8

Man, I actually just feel sorry for you. The time you spend thinking about Ben Simmons is really bad for your mental health. Have you seen someone about this?

Says the guy who spends so much time replying to Daeve any time he mentions Simmons...

It's ok to accept that Ben Simmons is sometimes a liability. It also doesn't mean he's the worst player in the league. I even drafted him in my fantasy team today, hoping for some rebounds, assists and defensive stats.

oshmeehan · 10-07-2022, 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by hairyangryfella

Says the guy who spends so much time replying to Daeve any time he mentions Simmons...

It's ok to accept that Ben Simmons is sometimes a liability. It also doesn't mean he's the worst player in the league. I even drafted him in my fantasy team today, hoping for some rebounds, assists and defensive stats.

Well, you sold me. You drafted Simmons to your fantasy basketball team. Is he starting alongside Huerter?

brothertona · 10-07-2022, 07:52 AM

My problem with Simmons is where has his game improved over the years? Would I absolutely have loved his defensive potential on the Hawks where we've really had no-one with that lock down potential until Murray.

smalltown · 10-07-2022, 08:35 AM

It's crazy to me people are still arguing about what Ben Simmons is and brings to the table. He's a plus defender, plus passer and able to score around the basket or with a head of steam. No he can't shoot 3s. Yes he seems disinterested or distracted at times. But the positives out way the negatives unless he completely checks out.

Sometimes a player just is what they are.

JustinVerlander07 · 10-07-2022, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by smalltown

It's crazy to me people are still arguing about what Ben Simmons is and brings to the table. He's a plus defender, plus passer and able to score around the basket or with a head of steam. No he can't shoot 3s. Yes he seems disinterested or distracted at times. But the positives out way the negatives unless he completely checks out.

Sometimes a player just is what they are.

It's bizarre, really. People seem to act like he sucks. He can't/won't shoot, but assuming (and that's a big assumption) Kyrie/KD don't meltdown, Simmons is a perfect 3rd option. Does a lot of little things, plus defender, can score enough points as a rim roller etc.

daeve · 10-07-2022, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by drobfan8

You haven't played much serious basketball before have you? It shows.

The screeners do completely different things. That's nothing to do with Simmons.

Man, I actually just feel sorry for you. The time you spend thinking about Ben Simmons is really bad for your mental health. Have you seen someone about this?

What's it got to do with, then? Offer some reasoning - this should be fun

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10-07-2022, 08:35 AM	#1598
smalltown Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Canada Posts: 17,243 ifeature	It's crazy to me people are still arguing about what Ben Simmons is and brings to the table. He's a plus defender, plus passer and able to score around the basket or with a head of steam. No he can't shoot 3s. Yes he seems disinterested or distracted at times. But the positives out way the negatives unless he completely checks out. Sometimes a player just is what they are. __________________ Collecting: Raptors, Canadian Basketball Players, Vintage & More. PC: https://www.instagram.com/smalltown.cards/

10-06-2022, 12:10 PM	#1580
brothertona Member Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 6,966 brothertona1	The Hawks are looking great - lots of Trae off-ball.

10-06-2022, 12:46 PM	#1583
spurs50fan Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 3,990	I heard Ralph Sampson's name pop up and VW is definitely the upgraded version of that. But that's the closest comparison given the skill/height/frame. Durability, over time, has downgraded and that's probably everyone's concern but it's worth the shot.

10-06-2022, 02:11 PM	#1586
indyguy Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 8,512 arndru indyguyat	https://twitter.com/i/communities/1506779786747826184 I hope they fail just based on how PJ Tucker has his shorts pulled so far up. What a psycho.

10-06-2022, 11:47 PM	#1592
daeve Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: savannah GA Posts: 13,170 accrules	For comparison, here's how the Hawks are looking with their new creator in PnR https://streamable.com/9buosu

10-06-2022, 11:50 PM	#1593
daeve Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: savannah GA Posts: 13,170 accrules	And here's Victor somehow starting to equal Lebron #1 pick hype https://streamable.com/zbez6v casual fadeaway corner 3. https://streamable.com/uyu6g5 swat into ridiculous oop. from Dame/Curry/Trae range? Sure, why not https://streamable.com/qgm32j

10-07-2022, 07:52 AM	#1597
brothertona Member Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 6,966 brothertona1	My problem with Simmons is where has his game improved over the years? Would I absolutely have loved his defensive potential on the Hawks where we've really had no-one with that lock down potential until Murray.