✹The PERENNIAL Shohei Ohtani Thread✹

[Trueblue]

I have an odd prediction this off season. I think some of his high end HTF cards are going to hit all time highs. This is irrelevant of what team he signs. Some crazy action on his low pop RC Autos. I don't think it's going to slow down. People are buying Shohei the person, not the ballplayer at this point.

See the sapphire base auto going for $20K just now with 5 different bidders above 13k.

And to clarify, besides being a great role model for kids, Shohei isn't going to Wander Franco (allegedly) or Tatis you with a dirty surprise.

[TGCollector]

Originally Posted by Trueblue

See the sapphire base auto going for $20K just now with 5 different bidders above 13k.

[Trueblue]

Originally Posted by TGCollector

Congratulations. Had a feeling it was you, but what a dog fight! You earned it. Pop 7!

[ThoseBackPages]

i think all of his stuff will be fine for all the reasons you mentioned

[TGCollector]

Originally Posted by Trueblue

Congratulations. Had a feeling it was you, but what a dog fight! You earned it. Pop 7!

Thank you! I was so disappointed when I missed this one in May, can't believe the exact same one popped up again.

[1977 Cloth]

This is a /4 RC, but it is a buyback. How do you think it compares to the other Chrome Autos?

It isn't the best picture, but it is from the Silver packs at the Ohtani VIP party. Rather than Transcendent on the shield it says Ohtani.

[irfuji]

Originally Posted by redauto5

Just so. I wonder how Shohei feels about 5 or 6 quality guys on his team being cut for nothing but $7 million in salary savings.

It pains me to say it, but the 6'4 Asian guy needs to get the heck out of that uniform.

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I think Angels know Shohei is leaving. Reading the article on ESPN about this, it says if all 6 are claimed they dip below the $233m competitive balance-tax threshold. Which would mean that they get a 2nd rounder as compensation if Ohtani leaves.

I'm really hoping he leaves and goes to the Dodgers.

[Bezeevan]

Originally Posted by dbodbodbo

Ok folks, I pulled this bad boy back in 2018 and was fortunate enough to get a BGS 10. I go back and forth about selling (I've turned down a few significant offers over the years), but I am considering moving it now. I could be wrong, but I imagine it's the highest grade low number auto of his. It's #'d 2/5. That said, has anyone used Goldin before? Any thoughts on your experience? Also, I legit have no idea on value but I imagine the floor right now is 50k.
As a side note, I have a Topps Chrome rookie auto BGS 9.5 of his that I intend to PC for life. This one is just becoming too big for me to justify holding. I may create a separate post for this, but I figured I would start in my favorite thread.
Open to any and all thoughts. Thanks all!

Timing is everything with high end cards and Goldin. They just closed the door on submissions for their September Elite auction and the next one would be during the off-season. I would sell privately like previously suggested or just wait til a March or April auction when hype is high. Unless he's out for the year rehabbing...

[dbodbodbo]

Originally Posted by Bezeevan

Timing is everything with high end cards and Goldin. They just closed the door on submissions for their September Elite auction and the next one would be during the off-season. I would sell privately like previously suggested or just wait til a March or April auction when hype is high. Unless he's out for the year rehabbing...

Agreed, that said they said they would get it in the September elite if I agree to sell this week.

[SupermanBrandon]

Originally Posted by dbodbodbo

Agreed, that said they said they would get it in the September elite if I agree to sell this week.

I would go to the Burbank show this weekend. IF you dont get what you want in a private cash deal, I would wait until Jan-March to auction it.

[seanrs1]

https://www.sportscollectorsdaily.co...80005-83287939

Completely agree with the above take

[BBases31]

Originally Posted by seanrs1

https://www.sportscollectorsdaily.co...80005-83287939

Completely agree with the above take

It's kind of a silly article, that guy is arguing against a strawman. No one thinks Ohtani will lose popularity or even come close to losing the #1 spot in the hobby. The question is if that 10k BC Auto, is going to average 8k over the next year, or 10k or 12k. I still think the injury hasn't seemed to register yet as he's still in the midst of a historic year, unanimous MVP, and he'll be moving to a better team.

The mystique is going to wash off a bit when he's "just" hitting for a year. Nothing changes that he's the greatest player of our generation and possibly the best since Ruth, but he can still be all those things with an 8K BC Auto or a 20k BC Auto. And when he's "just" hitting he really has to be at the top of the league since expectations are so sky high

[SupermanBrandon]

Love me some Ohtani, but you might be living in a fantasy world if you think his prices wont dip a little with him "only" hitting next year. While great stats, if he hits 40 homers and steals 20 bags, while hitting .275...prices aren't shooting up with that stat line.

[ThoseBackPages]

imagine what he could do if he concentrated 150% on hitting.

[BBases31]

Originally Posted by SupermanBrandon

Love me some Ohtani, but you might be living in a fantasy world if you think his prices wont dip a little with him "only" hitting next year. While great stats, if he hits 40 homers and steals 20 bags, while hitting .275...prices aren't shooting up with that stat line.

At peak market euphoria, most cannot see anything but up. He was also not very good the two seasons he was "just" hitting, despite him being really damn good at the plate his first season in the league. 149 wRC+ to 120 to 80

[TBTC Baseball]

Does he get a bump when he signs his massive contract? Potential new fanbase, name all over the news during relatively boring offseason.

[theredmenace]

Originally Posted by BBases31

At peak market euphoria, most cannot see anything but up. He was also not very good the two seasons he was "just" hitting, despite him being really damn good at the plate his first season in the league. 149 wRC+ to 120 to 80

Are we really using 2020 stats as part of a predictive model lol

[BBases31]

Originally Posted by TBTC Baseball

Does he get a bump when he signs his massive contract? Potential new fanbase, name all over the news during relatively boring offseason.

If it's the most likely destination, the Mariners, I don't think so

[BBases31]

Originally Posted by theredmenace

Are we really using 2020 stats as part of a predictive model lol

No, that season didn't exist, it's useless! Throw it out if you want, the season before where he wasn't pitching he had by far his worst offensive year

[SupermanBrandon]

2020 is a complete joke. The entire "season" start to finish.

[theredmenace]

Originally Posted by BBases31

No, that season didn't exist, it's useless! Throw it out if you want, the season before where he wasn't pitching he had by far his worst offensive year

He's entering his physical peak and his underlying batted ball measurements (EV, barrels, launch angle etc) and plate discipline have improved dramatically since 2019. I wouldn't bet against Ohtani in 2024 just because he won't be on the mound.

[ThoseBackPages]

Originally Posted by TBTC Baseball

Does he get a bump when he signs his massive contract? Potential new fanbase, name all over the news during relatively boring offseason.

no, as he is staying where he is

[Trueblue]

I joke with my wife that if Sho signs with the Mariners due to proximity to excellent rehab access and driveline, we're moving back. She gives me the side eye cause she knows it's not a complete joke.

[ThoseBackPages]

Originally Posted by Trueblue

I joke with my wife that if Sho signs with the Mariners due to proximity to excellent rehab access and driveline, we're moving back. She gives me the side eye cause she knows it's not a complete joke.

hahaha!

[NYRE2PECT]

Originally Posted by Trueblue

I joke with my wife that if Sho signs with the Mariners due to proximity to excellent rehab access and driveline, we're moving back. She gives me the side eye cause she knows it's not a complete joke.

Do it! My personal plans right now are to spend June 2024 out on the peninsula...certainly would be willing to amend that Bainbridge or something closer to Safeco if the Sho moves to the PNW!