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Old 10-27-2023, 05:27 PM   #16701
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Old 10-27-2023, 05:33 PM   #16702
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Licensed first yes, then get the auto after
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Old 10-27-2023, 05:36 PM   #16703
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Licensed first yes, then get the auto after
It’s either a non auto licensed or a non licensed auto lol!

But so far it looks like the vote is the non auto licensed
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Old 10-27-2023, 05:51 PM   #16704
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It’s either a non auto licensed or a non licensed auto lol!

But so far it looks like the vote is the non auto licensed
It also depends on what other Shohei cards you already have/what you prefer. Back in the day I got the optic autos first since I didn't have any RC autos of OHTANI and those were the nicest on card autos I could afford. Eventually I picked up some of the Bowman chrome refractors also, I really do love both!

Also to add: Ohtani is a special case where his unlicensed cards, especially his autos, don't see as big of a dropoff value wise vs the licensed cards compared to other players, at least in my opinion

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Old 10-27-2023, 08:25 PM   #16705
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It also depends on what other Shohei cards you already have/what you prefer. Back in the day I got the optic autos first since I didn't have any RC autos of OHTANI and those were the nicest on card autos I could afford. Eventually I picked up some of the Bowman chrome refractors also, I really do love both!

Also to add: Ohtani is a special case where his unlicensed cards, especially his autos, don't see as big of a dropoff value wise vs the licensed cards compared to other players, at least in my opinion

Collect what you love and you'll be happy
I have a PSA 9 Topps chrome blue /150 and a PSA 10 Topps rainbow foil. I don’t own an auto of his and his licensed rookie autos are out of my price range for now.

I’m not a huge auto guy so I’ll probably end up picking up a Bowman refractor but I found myself looking at his optic autos and they are sweet looking cards!
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Old 10-27-2023, 09:03 PM   #16706
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Unlicensed auto ftw too
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Old 10-28-2023, 11:24 PM   #16707
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Anyone snag any monsters in the Goldin elite? That may be the last wave of higher end before we embark for a roller coaster.
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Old 10-29-2023, 12:08 AM   #16708
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It also depends on what other Shohei cards you already have/what you prefer. Back in the day I got the optic autos first since I didn't have any RC autos of OHTANI and those were the nicest on card autos I could afford. Eventually I picked up some of the Bowman chrome refractors also, I really do love both!

Also to add: Ohtani is a special case where his unlicensed cards, especially his autos, don't see as big of a dropoff value wise vs the licensed cards compared to other players, at least in my opinion

Collect what you love and you'll be happy
I've seen 18 Topps Update IP autos go for below $900 if they are something you're interested in.
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Old 10-29-2023, 03:26 AM   #16709
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Anyone snag any monsters in the Goldin elite? That may be the last wave of higher end before we embark for a roller coaster.
Not here...I had my eye on a couple but they all went higher than I could handle. Did you get anything?

(I did grab a consolation prize from eBay though)

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Old 10-29-2023, 11:33 AM   #16710
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Not here...I had my eye on a couple but they all went higher than I could handle. Did you get anything?

(I did grab a consolation prize from eBay though)
Can't wait to see the eBay snag!

Yeah, there were few cards that went for relative discounts, but none of the five figure ones were cheap. I did win one but it was a dog fight and my Ohtani budget for the year is gone. I'll post when it arrives. No, it wasn't the CRASO orange .
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Old 10-29-2023, 02:49 PM   #16711
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I was hoping to get lucky with the red Finest auto but no dice.
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Old 10-29-2023, 03:22 PM   #16712
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We should really start an Ohtani auction discord with the intent of not getting into bidding wars with each other.
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Old 10-29-2023, 04:23 PM   #16713
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I've thought about that before but I figured everyone would be so concerned about drawing more attention to what they're after it would just be crickets
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Old 10-29-2023, 04:32 PM   #16714
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I've thought about that before but I figured everyone would be so concerned about drawing more attention to what they're after it would just be crickets
I think it has gotten to a point (for Ohtani higher end) where if it's Goldin/PWCC/Probstein/Dcsports87, you can assume people saw it.

Sometimes I bid because the card seems like too good of a deal to pass up, not cause I really want it. I would generally back off if I already owned the card and was bidding against someone from here (and not a flipper) that was pursuing it for their collection. There are very few Sho cards where I would push good people out of the way to win. Maybe I'm in the minority.
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Old 10-29-2023, 05:28 PM   #16715
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Sometimes I bid because the card seems like too good of a deal to pass up, not cause I really want it.
This is exactly why I haven't been able to stop buying stuff after months of telling myself to slow down.
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Old 10-30-2023, 12:15 PM   #16716
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Alright who outbid me on the Finest Flashbacks gold refractor last night. Might be a while before one of those pop up again.
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Old 10-30-2023, 02:15 PM   #16717
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Alright who outbid me on the Finest Flashbacks gold refractor last night. Might be a while before one of those pop up again.
very strong prices for an unnumbered refractor. I know it's still PR ~50 but other releases ('20-22) with serial #s were not this strong from the jump. Perhaps the limited supply being ripped is factoring in.
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Old 10-30-2023, 02:18 PM   #16718
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very strong prices for an unnumbered refractor. I know it's still PR ~50 but other releases ('20-22) with serial #s were not this strong from the jump. Perhaps the limited supply being ripped is factoring in.
PR is 25 for the gold refractors this year, silvers are 50, bronze 100. City connect jersey might have contributed to the price as well.
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Old 10-30-2023, 02:27 PM   #16719
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PR is 25 for the gold refractors this year, silvers are 50, bronze 100. City connect jersey might have contributed to the price as well.
Ah, I bowed out of this set for 2023 since there are no red refractors (I have the 2020-2022 vertical) so I had no idea.
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Old 10-31-2023, 12:12 PM   #16720
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Let's see some orange in the spirit of Halloween!

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Old 10-31-2023, 12:13 PM   #16721
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Let's see some orange in the spirit of Halloween!
Monsters!
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Old 10-31-2023, 12:24 PM   #16722
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I don't have orange to share

Is gold close enough?


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Old 10-31-2023, 12:58 PM   #16723
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Has anyone ever seen a 2018 Donruss Wrapper redemption autograph?
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Old 10-31-2023, 01:18 PM   #16724
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Happy TC Halloween

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Old 10-31-2023, 01:54 PM   #16725
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