***The Official New York Yankees Thread*** - Page 678

SethMurphy · 12-02-2023, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Jericho

I wouldnt trade the farm for Soto when you have no promises that he'll stay. Wait until he's a free agent and then throw money at him. Or wait til SD lowers the demands

Problem is you can't wait and see. This current regime doesn't just go outbid for free agents anymore. You have to trade for him and give yourself a 10-month headstart on negotiations.

The Mets, Dodgers and more will have more money they are willing to throw around than the Yankees come next offseason. If the Yankees want him they have to go trade for him

hxcmilkshake · 12-02-2023, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Jericho

I wouldnt trade the farm for Soto when you have no promises that he'll stay. Wait until he's a free agent and then throw money at him. Or wait til SD lowers the demands

We need him asap. Window's closing

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fulltritty · 12-02-2023, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by JRX

Funny, post has an article that they're far apart lol

Which is funny because yesterday the rumor was Jim Thorpe was the only thing holding up the trade. I think sports writers can be trusted even less than the regular media.

Absknicks · 12-03-2023, 05:02 AM

Judge is going to be 32 this April. Cole just turned 33 a couple months ago. The organization has wasted the prime years of these guys by not signing established major league stars who could've drastically improved the roster.

They're now left in a position where they're paying both these guys a ton of money, seemingly unwilling to bid for the priciest FAs despite being worth billions more than any other MLB franchise and quickly running out of time before the wheels completely come off.

Basically have to trade for Soto. Negotiate the price down if you have to but not at the risk of losing him to the Blue Jays or another team that swoops in.

Mandy1320 · 12-04-2023, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by marl1220

I wouldn't give up Spencer Jones for a rental.

The 22 year old that had a .787 OPS in high A ball last year?

You know Soto is only 2 years older than him, right? The extra time the Yanks get to spoil Soto in hopes that he would want to come back is worth it to me.

Attached are the offensive production leaders through their age 24 seasons. Can you count how many HoF members Soto is surrounded by?

https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders/ma...ault&pagenum=1

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The only guys ahead of them that are NOT currently in the HoF are Mike Trout, Albert Pujols, and Shoeless Joe Jackson. Two of those guys will be 1st ballot HoF one day, the other probably should be. In conclusion, if Juan Soto does NOT end up in the HoF he would be the biggest bust of all time. And we dont want to give up Spencer Jones even if it is for just a year? Make it make sense.

JRX · 12-04-2023, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Mandy1320

The 22 year old that had a .787 OPS in high A ball last year?

You know Soto is only 2 years older than him, right? The extra time the Yanks get to spoil Soto in hopes that he would want to come back is worth it to me.

Attached are the offensive production leaders through their age 24 seasons. Can you count how many HoF members Soto is surrounded by?

https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders/ma...ault&pagenum=1

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The only guys ahead of them that are NOT currently in the HoF are Mike Trout, Albert Pujols, and Shoeless Joe Jackson. Two of those guys will be 1st ballot HoF one day, the other probably should be. In conclusion, if Juan Soto does NOT end up in the HoF he would be the biggest bust of all time. And we dont want to give up Spencer Jones even if it is for just a year? Make it make sense.

Yup, nobody should be off limits for soto. Cashman passed on machado, harper, seager, freeman, etc and now we're passing on soto and ohtani. Can someone please dig up George so we can have an owner that wants to win again.

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marl1220 · 12-04-2023, 03:29 PM

It's just a feeling but I believe this off season will go down as being as big a failure as last regular season. No Soto. No Yamamoto. But a signing of Cody B, who will become a monumental bust in NY. It will be a classic Cashman blunder fest!

dani0100 · 12-04-2023, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by marl1220

It's just a feeling but I believe this off season will go down as being as big a failure as last regular season. No Soto. No Yamamoto. But a signing of Cody B, who will become a monumental bust in NY. It will be a classic Cashman blunder fest!

Correct.

Anejo · 12-04-2023, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by marl1220

It's just a feeling but I believe this off season will go down as being as big a failure as last regular season. No Soto. No Yamamoto. But a signing of Cody B, who will become a monumental bust in NY. It will be a classic Cashman blunder fest!

The way it's been the last few years with horrible signings, I feel the same way. I do not want Belly, I agree i'm feeling a bust with him. For once since G. Cole lets not be cheap and get what I believe are the closest to sure things: Soto and Yamamoto.

Give away anyone on the Padres list to get Soto except for Jasson, Volpe or Wells (which these 3 don't seem to be on according to reports).

fulltritty · 12-05-2023, 06:24 AM

I don't want Belly either. Sign Yamamota and Montgomery for the rotation. get the trade done for Soto. None of the guys the Padres want are going to be #1 starters or Hall of Famers.

Pray Stanton has a rebound year after he goes to the "lab" and trade him at the end of the season to get the money to re-sign Soto. Play some nobody (Everson, Cabrera, the Guardians guy we just picked up) in CF until Dominguez is ready.

JRX · 12-05-2023, 08:54 AM

Trade for soto to at least see if he can handle a fanbase that's going to boo him when he stinks it up. This is also about a once a generation fa opportunity to sign a guy while he's still in his mid 20s.

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Mandy1320 · 12-05-2023, 12:49 PM

Boone and Cashman will speak to media this afternoon. I wonder what hot air they got to release this time.

fulltritty · 12-05-2023, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Mandy1320

Boone and Cashman will speak to media this afternoon. I wonder what hot air they got to release this time.

We'd love to trade for Soto, but we can't give up pitching prospects and major leaguers that will never be more than #4 starters for a guy that could win us the World Series in 2024.

theshowandme · 12-05-2023, 06:17 PM

Kind of bizarre that Yankees fans want to hoard prospects all of a sudden.

I knew the organization had become a poverty franchise. I did not know the fan base followed along.

JRX · 12-05-2023, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by theshowandme

Kind of bizarre that Yankees fans want to hoard prospects all of a sudden.

I knew the organization had become a poverty franchise. I did not know the fan base followed along.

Where are you seeing the fanbase wanting to hoard prospects and not get Soto?

theshowandme · 12-05-2023, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by JRX

Where are you seeing the fanbase wanting to hoard prospects and not get Soto?

Every twitter thread that Jomboy and Talkin Yanks starts on the topic

fulltritty · 12-05-2023, 07:58 PM

My Dad said today that it would be a waste to get rid of so much for Soto. That's how I know pulling the trigger on the trade is the best thing to do for the Yankees.

fulltritty · 12-05-2023, 08:00 PM

Aaron Boone raves about Juan Soto, Yoshinobu Yamamoto as Yankees pursue stars

https://nypost.com/2023/12/05/sports...nobu-yamamoto/

JRX · 12-05-2023, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by fulltritty

My Dad said today that it would be a waste to get rid of so much for Soto. That's how I know pulling the trigger on the trade is the best thing to do for the Yankees.

I wouldn't want them to make the same mistake the knicks did with Melo, but who exactly are the yankees waiting for. This is the best player available and best free agent opp at this age for a long time. With so many guys signing team friendly long term deals, you're not going to get the opp to get a guy at 25/26.

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hxcmilkshake · 12-05-2023, 09:30 PM

Oh well no Soto I guess if we just got Verdugo.

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bbteamw · 12-05-2023, 09:30 PM

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/...kees-prospects

JRX · 12-05-2023, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by hxcmilkshake

Oh well no Soto I guess if we just got Verdugo.

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Hey when you can get a guy whose OPS+ is down each of the last 4 years, you got to do it.

JRX · 12-05-2023, 09:36 PM

I love when guys like Passan say it doesn't take the Yankees out of the Soto market. Sure it does, where the hell is he going to play, they're not going to make Judge the CF for 162 games and they've tried to drop Stanton off in the woods several times already.

hxcmilkshake · 12-05-2023, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by JRX

Hey when you can get a guy whose OPS+ is down each of the last 4 years, you got to do it.

Calling it now : Richard Fitts will K Verdugo in September

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hxcmilkshake · 12-05-2023, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by JRX

I love when guys like Passan say it doesn't take the Yankees out of the Soto market. Sure it does, where the hell is he going to play, they're not going to make Judge the CF for 162 games and they've tried to drop Stanton off in the woods several times already.

I'm sure the Padres wanted a fortune, oh well it was good to dream.

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12-03-2023, 05:02 AM	#16929
Absknicks Member Join Date: Apr 2020 Posts: 422	Judge is going to be 32 this April. Cole just turned 33 a couple months ago. The organization has wasted the prime years of these guys by not signing established major league stars who could've drastically improved the roster. They're now left in a position where they're paying both these guys a ton of money, seemingly unwilling to bid for the priciest FAs despite being worth billions more than any other MLB franchise and quickly running out of time before the wheels completely come off. Basically have to trade for Soto. Negotiate the price down if you have to but not at the risk of losing him to the Blue Jays or another team that swoops in.

12-04-2023, 03:29 PM	#16932
marl1220 Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 9,554	It's just a feeling but I believe this off season will go down as being as big a failure as last regular season. No Soto. No Yamamoto. But a signing of Cody B, who will become a monumental bust in NY. It will be a classic Cashman blunder fest!

12-05-2023, 06:24 AM	#16935
fulltritty Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: King George, VA Posts: 75,580	I don't want Belly either. Sign Yamamota and Montgomery for the rotation. get the trade done for Soto. None of the guys the Padres want are going to be #1 starters or Hall of Famers. Pray Stanton has a rebound year after he goes to the "lab" and trade him at the end of the season to get the money to re-sign Soto. Play some nobody (Everson, Cabrera, the Guardians guy we just picked up) in CF until Dominguez is ready.

12-05-2023, 08:54 AM	#16936
JRX Member Join Date: May 2020 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 15,346	Trade for soto to at least see if he can handle a fanbase that's going to boo him when he stinks it up. This is also about a once a generation fa opportunity to sign a guy while he's still in his mid 20s. Sent from my SM-A546U1 using Tapatalk

12-05-2023, 12:49 PM	#16937
Mandy1320 Member Join Date: Aug 2020 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 2,662 marande-5259	Boone and Cashman will speak to media this afternoon. I wonder what hot air they got to release this time.

12-05-2023, 06:17 PM	#16939
theshowandme Member Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 4,975 theshowandme nova_cards	Kind of bizarre that Yankees fans want to hoard prospects all of a sudden. I knew the organization had become a poverty franchise. I did not know the fan base followed along.

12-05-2023, 07:58 PM	#16942
fulltritty Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: King George, VA Posts: 75,580	My Dad said today that it would be a waste to get rid of so much for Soto. That's how I know pulling the trigger on the trade is the best thing to do for the Yankees.

12-05-2023, 08:00 PM	#16943
fulltritty Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: King George, VA Posts: 75,580	Aaron Boone raves about Juan Soto, Yoshinobu Yamamoto as Yankees pursue stars https://nypost.com/2023/12/05/sports...nobu-yamamoto/

12-05-2023, 09:30 PM	#16945
hxcmilkshake Member Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Apopka FL Posts: 11,154 hxcmilkshake	Oh well no Soto I guess if we just got Verdugo. Sent from my SM-G996U using Tapatalk

12-05-2023, 09:30 PM	#16946
bbteamw Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 1,543	https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/...kees-prospects

12-05-2023, 09:36 PM	#16948
JRX Member Join Date: May 2020 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 15,346	I love when guys like Passan say it doesn't take the Yankees out of the Soto market. Sure it does, where the hell is he going to play, they're not going to make Judge the CF for 162 games and they've tried to drop Stanton off in the woods several times already.