CFB: Dan Mullen to Florida, Greg Schiano to the Vols

[TWard]

[Cavaliercards]

Originally Posted by HP7163

You know you're not a top tier program when the coach of NC State says no... ooof..

Just need Fedora to say no and the whole research triangle will have said no.

Here’s thing people saying have to get a “name” or “established” coach. What was Dabo Swinney’s background?

Going back to Schiano and people saying he sucked in NFL, didn’t see Saban lighting it up there.

[TWard]

They just need to get it over with and hire Les Miles or Kevin Sumlin. I’m sure Les still wants to coach.

[HP7163]

Originally Posted by Cavaliercards

Just need Fedora to say no and the whole research triangle will have said no.

Here’s thing people saying have to get a “name” or “established” coach. What was Dabo Swinney’s background?

Going back to Schiano and people saying he sucked in NFL, didn’t see Saban lighting it up there.

Dabo had ties to Alabama then under Bowden at Clemson before he got the HC gig

Schiano is a good college coach and prob would've done ok at Tennessee

[Cavaliercards]

Originally Posted by HP7163

Dabo had ties to Alabama then under Bowden at Clemson before he got the HC gig

Schiano is a good college coach and prob would've done ok at Tennessee

He had ties, but he wasn’t an established name/brand like UT is demanding. Time to start looking at some OC not named Tee Martin

[herdfan87]

Reading all the reports about ASU interested in Herm Edwards, that is an interesting one.

[HP7163]

Originally Posted by Cavaliercards

He had ties, but he wasn’t an established name/brand like UT is demanding. Time to start looking at some OC not named Tee Martin

He was established at Clemson for years before he was an interim HC but known as a master recruiter so was given the job

[HP7163]

Originally Posted by herdfan87

Reading all the reports about ASU interested in Herm Edwards, that is an interesting one.

Interesting but a bit confusing since herm will be 64 soon and a bland rag rah defensive coach.. I think his time has passed esp for a school like ASU.

[Cavaliercards]

Originally Posted by HP7163

He was established at Clemson for years before he was an interim HC but known as a master recruiter so was given the job

At time Clemson fans were in a uproar and pissed that was the best they could do. They wanted a Head Coach with an established brand. Lot of great recruiters out there doesn't make them good head coaches.

[Cavaliercards]

Originally Posted by HP7163

Interesting but a bit confusing since herm will be 64 soon and a bland rag rah defensive coach.. I think his time has passed esp for a school like ASU.

Since they are making him retain the OC, I think it is a placeholder for the OC to get the job in a few years.

Plus, ASU's AD is Herm's former Agent.

[HP7163]

Originally Posted by Cavaliercards

At time Clemson fans were in a uproar and pissed that was the best they could do. They wanted a Head Coach with an established brand. Lot of great recruiters out there doesn't make them good head coaches.

True but it got him the job

Like I said .. not a Tennessee fan but following the story

[HP7163]

Originally Posted by Cavaliercards

Since they are making him retain the OC, I think it is a placeholder for the OC to get the job in a few years.

Plus, ASU's AD is Herm's former Agent.

Ah.. a former agent that's now an AD ? Can't make this stuff up

[JCC6603]

Les or Sumlin are sooooo much better options than Schiano or Doeren. Really pathetic whoever is making these decisions over there.

[Cavaliercards]

Originally Posted by HP7163

True but it got him the job

Like I said .. not a Tennessee fan but following the story

Got him the job and most of their base said it was a colossal mistake and now look where they are. Might be time for UT to get smart as no coach wants to be the 14th or 15th public choice, let alone the private declines we are not aware of.

Matt Campbell stayed at Iowa State instead of UT, ISU is one of the worst programs historically.

[Cavaliercards]

Originally Posted by JCC6603

Les or Sumlin are sooooo much better options than Schiano or Doeren. Really pathetic whoever is making these decisions over there.

Sumlin will cause UT fans to lose faith quicker, Ol Hat Tosser will make you remember well he did win a Title at LSU and will give him extra time.

[HP7163]

Originally Posted by Cavaliercards

Got him the job and most of their base said it was a colossal mistake and now look where they are. Might be time for UT to get smart as no coach wants to be the 14th or 15th public choice, let alone the private declines we are not aware of.

Matt Campbell stayed at Iowa State instead of UT, ISU is one of the worst programs historically.

Appears that guys would rather stay at programs that have more realistic expectations while also knowing the fan base won't want them fired if they lose some rough games

Tough situation there.. sometimes it sucks to have to look in the mirror and accept responsibility that maybe "you" can't get a big time coach because of "you"

Kinda like working for a complete over bearing "Bleep hole" who has zero idea how to manage people while also not realizing or admitting they're a "bleep hole" (thank god I have only experienced this 2x in my life ha)

[Cavaliercards]

Originally Posted by HP7163

Appears that guys would rather stay at programs that have more realistic expectations while also knowing the fan base won't want them fired if they lose some rough games

Tough situation there.. sometimes it sucks to have to look in the mirror and accept responsibility that maybe "you" can't get a big time coach because of "you"

Kinda like working for a complete over bearing "Bleep hole" who has zero idea how to manage people while also not realizing or admitting they're a "bleep hole" (thank god I have only experienced this 2x in my life ha)

Agreed at this juncture approximately 1/10th of D1 Football Coaches (if include the fired ones) have publicly said no. If that is not an eye-opener I am not sure what is.

[HP7163]

Originally Posted by Cavaliercards

Agreed at this juncture approximately 1/10th of D1 Football Programs (if include the fired ones) have publicly said no. If that is not an eye-opener I am not sure what is.

Plus you know high profile guys like Peyton Manning have been asked or used to pull strings like you hinted at earlier that we're unaware of

I used to have a drinking buddy that was a UT grad... smart guy (Forrest labs rep) but when it came to Tennessee football he was the harshest, most unrealistic, bi polar fan I'd ever met. When I would tell him dude you just won a national title not long ago, he would be like ya and fulmer got lucky.. he's an idiot

That's when I knew Tennessee fans are just like Texas, Florida, etc that they think it's easy and sometimes you have to curb expectations. Highly doubt Tennessee or its fans will accept that they're starting over basically

[lambeauleap87]

Originally Posted by JCC6603

It's not the fans fault the administration is a joke

The administration had selected a very fine candidate until the heroic protestors decided they needed someone better. I would say that's backfired.

[JCC6603]

Originally Posted by lambeauleap87

The administration had selected a very fine candidate until the heroic protestors decided they needed someone better. I would say that's backfired.

That's your opinion, no matter who ends up the coach I'm glad it's not him.


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[Cavaliercards]

Originally Posted by lambeauleap87

The administration had selected a very fine candidate until the heroic protestors decided they needed someone better. I would say that's backfired.

Agreed and now they have gotten turned down by how many publicly? Not to mention the private ones. They have shown to be a program in disarray and not the power they claim to be, but with their history I would claim it too. Schiano was a good choice with good pedigree and probably would have snagged a Meyer Offensive assistant or two as well to run the offense.

This point you hire a caretaker coach to get you to bowl games like Jim Grobe and try again in a year or two.

Probably Sumlin takes the job gets the Vols their 8 wins and they fire him in 4 years.

[packman80]

Sumlin told TN not interested.

Guess only choice left for TN is to hire that security guard that caught caught beating off at the Chargers game last year since non one else wants the job and people would keep a close eye on him to see how he does. LOL

[Cavaliercards]

Originally Posted by packman80

Sumlin told TN not interested.

Guess only choice left for TN is to hire that security guard that caught caught beating off at the Chargers game last year since non one else wants the job and people would keep a close eye on him to see how he does. LOL

Public and Private they have to be up to 20% of D1 Coaches saying no (if you include coaches that were fired)

Bret Bielema is available or Hugh Freeze

[mr10pin]

I just missed a call from an 865 number. Some guy named John wanted to talk to me about an exciting career opportunity. He didn't leave much other detail...just wanted me to call back. Anyone else get a similar call?

[packman80]

Originally Posted by mr10pin

I just missed a call from an 865 number. Some guy named John wanted to talk to me about an exciting career opportunity. He didn't leave much other detail...just wanted me to call back. Anyone else get a similar call?

got a email from some prince in Africa saying I can be rich if I give him my bank account number.