Dennis Pevarnick: Ebay bbcinv, South Lake Tahoe, CA is a confirmed CARD DOCTOR

[CaptSpaulding]

At 71 years of age shouldn't he be playing with his grandkids and not doing advanced alterations to baseball cards?

[pip]

Originally Posted by pspa123

Hmmm... I don't know but I would think recoloring would be not that hard to detect.

....especially if it was a card coming from Dennis Pevarnick. At a minimum, all cards submitted by known card molesters should receive a 2 to 3 second blacklight pass/scan

[pspa123]

Originally Posted by pip

....especially if it was a card coming from Dennis Pevarnick. At a minimum, all cards submitted by known card molesters should receive a 2 to 3 second blacklight pass/scan

Indeed, when their business purpose was to catch altered cards, that might have made sense.

[CaptSpaulding]

A guy like Dennis would never have his submissions actually scrutinized. If PSA assessed the friends and family members submissions as thoroughly as they assess the general public's stuff, most of this type of material would not get through.

Count me as someone who strongly feels the grading team in 2019 was more than qualified to catch this stuff. This is simply the type of BS that has gone on since day 1 at PSA that makes it seem as if they have no idea what they are doing.

And nobody needs a blacklight to catch recoloration if they are actually looking at the card. Blacklights, like rulers, are for guys who do not know what to look for.

[pip]

Originally Posted by CaptSpaulding

A guy like Dennis would never have his submissions actually scrutinized. If PSA assessed the friends and family members submissions as thoroughly as they assess the general public's stuff, most of this type of material would not get through.

Count me as someone who strongly feels the grading team in 2019 was more than qualified to catch this stuff. This is simply the type of BS that has gone on since day 1 at PSA that makes it seem as if they have no idea what they are doing.

And nobody needs a blacklight to catch recoloration if they are actually looking at the card. Blacklights, like rulers, are for guys who do not know what to look for.

If the shoe fits....

Besides, blacklights will also catch repapering, various oil- and paste-based fills, and bleaching/artificial lightening.

[pspa123]

Originally Posted by pip

If the shoe fits....

Besides, blacklights will also catch repapering, various oil- and paste-based fills, and bleaching/artificial lightening.

Yes, but if you caught those, you would have to reject the cards and upset your friends.

[corndog]

Some of the 1934 Goudey baseball cards that are in the May 2022 Heritage Auctions
are Pevarnick cards coming up for sale for the first time.

This one received a 1.5 grade bump.
The bottom edge has been trimmed and excess ink transfer has been removed/minimized on the back.

PSA Cert # 42913120

1934 Goudey John Allen #42

Was a PSA 7, now a PSA 8.5.

POP 1 with 1 higher

Pevarnick purchased the card from Ebay seller gregmorriscards on December 20, 2018 for $42.00.

Purchase:



Current bid is $650.00.

Current listing at Heritage Auctions:
Link:https://sports.ha.com/itm/baseball/1...umbnail-071515



Trimmed at bottom:



Matching fibers or paper stock imperfections an
closeup of blue ink transfer removal.




Same card front as a PSA 7 and PSA 8.5:



Same card back as a PSA 7 and PSA 8.5:

[CaptSpaulding]

Originally Posted by pip

If the shoe fits....

Besides, blacklights will also catch repapering, various oil- and paste-based fills, and bleaching/artificial lightening.

Ah but most cards do not need to be looked at for those things. Most of the people who submit to PSA and SGC are not submitting art projects. The guys who do advanced doctoring never have their cards looked at that closely therefore blacklights are a waste of time and space.

BODA is finding an endless run of doctored cards from the guys who have threads dedicated to them not because they submit so much but because very little of what they submit gets rejected.

[whiteymet]

Originally Posted by corndog

PSA Cert #45019527

1933 Goudey Frank Hogan #30

Value gain of $5,077.50

PSA Set Registry: private

This card was purchased by Ebay buyer ID bbcinv (Dennis Pevarnick) from Ebay seller probstein123 as a PSA 5 for $202.50 on July 23, 2019.

Same card was consigned to and sold by Heritage Auctions as a PSA 8 for $5,280.00 on February 23, 2020.

Yellow circles are print, fiber, or chipping identifiers.
Red boxes identify:
1) ink or spot removal on front resulting in removal of yellow ink
2) green ink added to type in several letters
3) Many spots removed or minimized from entire back of card

Not disputing that these Hogan cards shown are the same, but isn't there what appears to be a "cloud" on the top back atop of "No." on the PSA 5? I see no evidence of it on the PSA 8. Was that removed too and not noticed by the fellow comparing the cards? Or are my eyes deceiving me?

[CaptSpaulding]

Originally Posted by whiteymet

Not disputing that these Hogan cards shown are the same, but isn't there what appears to be a "cloud" on the top back atop of "No." on the PSA 5? I see no evidence of it on the PSA 8. Was that removed too and not noticed by the fellow comparing the cards? Or are my eyes deceiving me?

Yes it was removed. It is ink from a wet sheet transfer. I doubt that corndog missed it as much as he was focusing on 3 other alterations done to the card.

[corndog]

47 of the 83 high grade cards from the 1934 Goudeys listed in the May 2022 Heritage Auction were submitted
to PSA for grading by Dennis Pevarnick (bbcinv on Ebay).

The cards are:

1934 Goudey Mickey Cochrane #2 - PSA 8 - Lot: 50609 - PSA #42913262
1934 Goudey Tony Piet #8 - PSA 8.5 - Lot: 50615 - PSA #43573179
1934 Goudey Ben Chapman #9 - PSA 8 - Lot: 50616 - PSA #42913097
1934 Goudey Alvin Crowder #15 - PSA 7.5 - Lot: 50620 - PSA #42913149
1934 Goudey Heinie Manush #18 - PSA 8 - Lot: 50690 - PSA #27902283
1934 Goudey Lefty Grove #19 - PSA 8 - Lot: 50624 - PSA #43573250
1934 Goudey Frank Hogan #20 - PSA 8 - Lot: 50625 - PSA #45018438
1934 Goudey Bill Terry #21 - PSA 8 - Lot: 50626 - PSA #45114640
1934 Goudey Charley Gehringer #23 - PSA 8 - Lot: 50628 - PSA #42913267
1934 Goudey Larry French #29 - PSA 8 - Lot: 50632 - PSA #45018406
1934 Goudey Julius Solters #30 - PSA 8 - Lot: 50633 - PSA #43573215
1934 Goudey Lou Gehrig #37 - PSA 6 - Lot: 50639 - PSA #45114716
1934 Goudey John Allen #42 PSA 8.5 - Lot: 50644 - PSA #42913020
1934 Goudey Tom Bridges #44 PSA 8.5 - Lot: 50646 - PSA #42913135
1934 Goudey John Frederick #47 PSA - Lot: 50649 - PSA #42913095
1934 Goudey Tex Carleton #48 - PSA 7.5 - Lot: 50650 - PSA #45114636
1934 Goudey Rip Collins #51 - PSA 8.5 - Lot: 50652 - PSA #45114695
1934 Goudey Herman Bell #52 - PSA 8 - Lot: 50653 - PSA #40706909
1934 Goudey Wesley Schulmerich #54 - PSA 8 - Lot: 50655 - PSA #45114691
1934 Goudey Mark Koenig #56 - PSA 8 - Lot: 50657 - PSA #45018415
1934 Goudey Earl Grace #58 - PSA 8.5 - Lot: 50659 - PSA #45114693
1934 Goudey Joe Mowry #59 - PSA 8 - Lot: 50660 - PSA #42085170
1934 Goudey Bob Weiland #67 - PSA 8 - Lot: 50665 - PSA #45114746
1934 Goudey John Marcum #69 - PSA 8 - Lot: 50667 - PSA #42913147
1934 Goudey Pete Fox #70 - PSA 8 - Lot: 50668 - PSA #40706926
1934 Goudey Ed Wells #73 - PSA 9 - Lot: 50671 - PSA #45018417
1934 Goudey Bob Boken #74 - PSA 8.5 - Lot: 50672 - PSA #43573206
1934 Goudey Joe Vosmik #77 - PSA 8 - Lot: 50673 - PSA #42085008
1934 Goudey Pinkey Higgins #78 - PSA 8.5 - Lot: 50674 - PSA #45019518
1934 Goudey Bob Brown #81 - PSA 9 - Lot: 50676 - PSA #45018496
1934 Goudey Bill Hallahan #82 - PSA 8 - Lot: 50677 - PSA #40706952
1934 Goudey Paul Derringer #84 - PSA 8 - Lot: 50679 - PSA #45018437
1934 Goudey Adam Comorosky #85 - PSA 8 - Lot: 50680 - PSA #42913136
1934 Goudey Lloyd Johnson #86 - PSA 8.5 - Lot: 50681 - PSA #43573187
1934 Goudey Dolph Camilli #91 - PSA 9 - Lot: 50683 - PSA #27902318
1934 Goudey Myril Hoag #95 - PSA 8 - Lot: 50687 - PSA #45018416
1934 Goudey Jim Deshong #96 - PSA 8 - Lot: 50688 - PSA #45019506
1934 Goudey Ki Ki Cuyler #90 - PSA 8 - Lot: 50689 - PSA #45114717



Updated: I found a link to these 9 additional cards being Pevarnick's.
These cards beginning with 503 (see bbcinv sale above) can be added to the list:

1934 Goudey Charlie Grimm #3 - PSA 7 - Lot: 50610 - PSA #50332197
1934 Goudey Woody English #4 - PSA 8 - Lot: 50611 - PSA #50332108
1934 Goudey Gerald Walker #26 - PSA 8 - Lot: 50630 - PSA #50332170
1934 Goudey Ernie Lombardi #35 - PSA 8 - Lot: 50637 - PSA 50332271
1934 Goudey Huck Betts #36 - PSA 8 - Lot: 50638 - PSA #50332165
1934 Goudey Oral Hildebrand #38 - PSA 8 - Lot: 50640 - PSA #50332168
1934 Goudey John Stone #40 - PSA 8 - Lot: 50642 - PSA #50332227
1934 Goudey George Earnshaw #41 - PSA 7.5 - Lot: 50643 - PSA #50332060
1934 Goudey Joe Stripp #46 - PSA 7.5 - Lot: 50648 - PSA #50332166

[corndog]

PSA Cert #45019532

1933 Goudey Max Bishop #61

Value gain of $12,372.50

PSA Set Registry: private

This card was purchased by Ebay buyer ID bbcinv (Dennis Pevarnick) from Ebay seller PWCC as a PSA 7 for $227.50 on September 10, 2019.

Same card was consigned to and sold by Heritage Auctions as a PSA 9 for $12,600.00 on February 23, 2020.

Yellow circles are print, fiber, or chipping identifiers.
Red boxes identify:
1) ink or spot removal on front resulting in removal of yellow ink
2) black ink offset (transfer) removed/minimized from back of card
as well as unknown substances removed (brownish).

[corndog]

Some of the 1934 Goudey baseball cards that are in the May 2022 Heritage Auctions
are Pevarnick cards coming up for sale for the first time.

This one received a 1.5 grade bump.
The front has had ink or (other) splotches removed resulting in loss of yellow ink and
excess ink transfer has been removed/minimized on the back.
Bottom corners have been sharpened.

PSA Cert # 42913135

1934 Goudey Tom Bridges #44

Was a PSA 7, now a PSA 8.5.

POP 1 with 2 higher

Pevarnick purchased the card from Ebay seller gregmorriscards on December 20, 2018 for $117.50.
Current bid is $280.00.

Current listing at Heritage Auctions:
Link:https://sports.ha.com/itm/baseball/1...umbnail-071515



Bottom corners sharpened:



Closeup of substance removal from front and resulting ink loss.



Same card front as a PSA 7 and PSA 8.5:



Same card back as a PSA 7 and PSA 8.5:

[corndog]

Originally Posted by corndog

38 of the 83 high grade cards from the 1934 Goudeys listed in the May 2022 Heritage Auction were submitted
to PSA for grading by Dennis Pevarnick (bbcinv on Ebay).

The cards are:

1934 Goudey Mickey Cochrane #2 - PSA 8 - Lot: 50609 - PSA #42913262
1934 Goudey Tony Piet #8 - PSA 8.5 - Lot: 50615 - PSA #43573179
1934 Goudey Ben Chapman #9 - PSA 8 - Lot: 50616 - PSA #42913097
1934 Goudey Alvin Crowder #15 - PSA 7.5 - Lot: 50620 - PSA #42913149
1934 Goudey Heinie Manush #18 - PSA 8 - Lot: 50690 - PSA #27902283
1934 Goudey Lefty Grove #19 - PSA 8 - Lot: 50624 - PSA #43573250
1934 Goudey Frank Hogan #20 - PSA 8 - Lot: 50625 - PSA #45018438
1934 Goudey Bill Terry #21 - PSA 8 - Lot: 50626 - PSA #45114640
1934 Goudey Charley Gehringer #23 - PSA 8 - Lot: 50628 - PSA #42913267
1934 Goudey Larry French #29 - PSA 8 - Lot: 50632 - PSA #45018406
1934 Goudey Julius Solters #30 - PSA 8 - Lot: 50633 - PSA #43573215
1934 Goudey Lou Gehrig #37 - PSA 6 - Lot: 50639 - PSA #45114716
1934 Goudey John Allen #42 PSA 8.5 - Lot: 50644 - PSA #42913020
1934 Goudey Tom Bridges #44 PSA 8.5 - Lot: 50646 - PSA #42913135
1934 Goudey John Frederick #47 PSA - Lot: 50649 - PSA #42913095
1934 Goudey Tex Carleton #48 - PSA 7.5 - Lot: 50650 - PSA #45114636
1934 Goudey Rip Collins #51 - PSA 8.5 - Lot: 50652 - PSA #45114695
1934 Goudey Herman Bell #52 - PSA 8 - Lot: 50653 - PSA #40706909
1934 Goudey Wesley Schulmerich #54 - PSA 8 - Lot: 50655 - PSA #45114691
1934 Goudey Mark Koenig #56 - PSA 8 - Lot: 50657 - PSA #45018415
1934 Goudey Earl Grace #58 - PSA 8.5 - Lot: 50659 - PSA #45114693
1934 Goudey Joe Mowry #59 - PSA 8 - Lot: 50660 - PSA #42085170
1934 Goudey Bob Weiland #67 - PSA 8 - Lot: 50665 - PSA #45114746
1934 Goudey John Marcum #69 - PSA 8 - Lot: 50667 - PSA #42913147
1934 Goudey Pete Fox #70 - PSA 8 - Lot: 50668 - PSA #40706926
1934 Goudey Ed Wells #73 - PSA 9 - Lot: 50671 - PSA #45018417
1934 Goudey Bob Boken #74 - PSA 8.5 - Lot: 50672 - PSA #43573206
1934 Goudey Joe Vosmik #77 - PSA 8 - Lot: 50673 - PSA #42085008
1934 Goudey Pinkey Higgins #78 - PSA 8.5 - Lot: 50674 - PSA #45019518
1934 Goudey Bob Brown #81 - PSA 9 - Lot: 50676 - PSA #45018496
1934 Goudey Bill Hallahan #82 - PSA 8 - Lot: 50677 - PSA #40706952
1934 Goudey Paul Derringer #84 - PSA 8 - Lot: 50679 - PSA #45018437
1934 Goudey Adam Comorosky #85 - PSA 8 - Lot: 50680 - PSA #42913136
1934 Goudey Lloyd Johnson #86 - PSA 8.5 - Lot: 50681 - PSA #43573187
1934 Goudey Dolph Camilli #91 - PSA 9 - Lot: 50683 - PSA #27902318
1934 Goudey Myril Hoag #95 - PSA 8 - Lot: 50687 - PSA #45018416
1934 Goudey Jim Deshong #96 - PSA 8 - Lot: 50688 - PSA #45019506
1934 Goudey Ki Ki Cuyler #90 - PSA 8 - Lot: 50689 - PSA #45114717

Updated: I found a link to these 9 additional cards being Pevarnick's.
That links 47 of the 83 cards to Pevarnick.
These cards beginning with 503 (see bbcinv sale above) can be added to the list:

1934 Goudey Charlie Grimm #3 - PSA 7 - Lot: 50610 - PSA #50332197
1934 Goudey Woody English #4 - PSA 8 - Lot: 50611 - PSA #50332108
1934 Goudey Gerald Walker #26 - PSA 8 - Lot: 50630 - PSA #50332170
1934 Goudey Ernie Lombardi #35 - PSA 8 - Lot: 50637 - PSA 50332271
1934 Goudey Huck Betts #36 - PSA 8 - Lot: 50638 - PSA #50332165
1934 Goudey Oral Hildebrand #38 - PSA 8 - Lot: 50640 - PSA #50332168
1934 Goudey John Stone #40 - PSA 8 - Lot: 50642 - PSA #50332227
1934 Goudey George Earnshaw #41 - PSA 7.5 - Lot: 50643 - PSA #50332060
1934 Goudey Joe Stripp #46 - PSA 7.5 - Lot: 50648 - PSA #50332166

[pip]

I wonder if Pevarnick does this every Heritage auction.

[corndog]

Originally Posted by pip

I wonder if Pevarnick does this every Heritage auction.

There are also 1933 Goudeys and a 1952 Berk Ross.
Too time consuming to go thru everything.

Heritage will know exactly what he submitted.

[CaptSpaulding]

Originally Posted by pip

I wonder if Pevarnick does this every Heritage auction.

You're not really wondering, are you? If you run an auction house like Heritage you are taking lots of consignments from lots of guys like Dennis.

[pip]

Originally Posted by CaptSpaulding

You're not really wondering, are you? If you run an auction house like Heritage you are taking lots of consignments from lots of guys like Dennis.

I think the progression goes something like this: TPG grader to card molesting dealer to AH employee.

[pspa123]

As i've said many times over the years, the unholy alliance among card doctor, TPG, and AH. What a world. The flip sanitizes alterations and gives everyone cover.

[ken161]

Originally Posted by pspa123

As i've said many times over the years, the unholy alliance among card doctor, TPG, and AH. What a world. The flip sanitizes alterations and gives everyone cover.

Do you think the number of altered cards in the hobby in 2022 would be less if grading had never gained wide acceptance? I'm inclined to think yes, certainly among non-star vintage anyway. I can't imagine card doctors hacking up modern serial numbered cards en masse either.

[CaptSpaulding]

Originally Posted by pip

I think the progression goes something like this: TPG grader to card molesting dealer to AH employee.

Yeah and it is prolific in the hobby. Without them supplying the cards the auction houses would be filled with virtually nothing higher than NM and have endless quantities of high grade appearing cards in VG holders due to minor wrinkles or hints of corner wear.

[pip]

Originally Posted by ken161

Do you think the number of altered cards in the hobby in 2022 would be less if grading had never gained wide acceptance? I'm inclined to think yes, certainly among non-star vintage anyway. I can't imagine card doctors hacking up modern serial numbered cards en masse either.

No question. There's no way someone would be chemically treating, flattening, and hacking up 1933 and 1934 Goudey commons without TPGs dishing out 8s and 9s.

[DragonWagon]

Added all of the outed cards to the Altered Card Database. https://www.tiffanycards.com/altered-card-database

Working on adding the cards submitted by known card doc. Although there is no evidence to prove that these cards were altered, but there is a high probability that they were. Therefore, I am going to be adding them to the list, to allow people to have the info to decide for themselves if its worth their money.

[Bruins1993]

Originally Posted by CaptSpaulding

Someone should contact Nat, Kevin or Jackie and point out the post from CD on the 34 Gehrig. I don't think they will decertify the card as obvious the alteration is. I think they actually think they do not have/need to.

Post the before/after on the Collectors Universe forum and get banned?

[corndog]

This trimmed card has not been offered for sale that I am aware.
The card and accompanying photos are straight from the PSA certification database.
PSA values the card at $2,200.00.

This one received a 2 grade bump.
The bottom edge has been trimmed and excess ink transfer has been removed/minimized on the back.

PSA Cert # 45019536

1933 Goudey Eppa Rixey #74

Was a PSA 6, it's now a PSA 8.

PSA Database link: https://www.psacard.com/cert/45019536

Pevarnick purchased the card from Ebay seller probstein123 on June 10, 2019 for $305.00.

Purchase:



Trimmed at bottom:




Same card front as a PSA 6 and PSA 8:



Same card back as a PSA 6 and PSA 8: