Why is Ben Simmons still a thing????

[rman112]

Originally Posted by tjforce

Paul Georges 2018 Game 6 2-16 performance comes to mind

Yeah, George really struggled there for a little while. Roy Hibbert, too. George rebounded. Hibbert, not so much.

[Mahomie]

Man...Ben's getting hammered - not just here, but the entire internet.

If he stays this version of himself, I'm not sure if he makes another All-Star team. Just too many young upcoming cats like Booker, Trae, Ja, SGA, Fox (all of whom missed the cut this year).

[Ferg1945]

Twitter can be B R U T A L

[shootit]

Originally Posted by The Accountant

Danny Green is the forgotten man right now. Sixers had the best starting 5 in the NBA (minus the stacked Nets when healthy). If Green was healthy, Sixers in 5. Yet, here we are sulking over another Eastern Conference Semifinal exit... sigh.

Also, the Hawks can ball

danny green changing the outcome of the series lmao yeah ight

[drobfan8]

Originally Posted by Mahomie

Man...Ben's getting hammered - not just here, but the entire internet.

If he stays this version of himself, I'm not sure if he makes another All-Star team. Just too many young upcoming cats like Booker, Trae, Ja, SGA, Fox (all of whom missed the cut this year).

I agree with this.

Simmons can be made the scapegoat but I'm not sure he's even the main problem for Philly.

Maybe the final 2 mins but Philly was +1 in his 36 mins and -8 in his 12 mins off the floor.

He's got the scared eyes thing going on and that's not gonna get you a title. But I have seen it in LeBron and KD. So it happens to the best.

They should defs trade him to a team that wants to just put bums on seats and doesn't want to contend.

At the end of the day there is no way that Philly should have lost to Atl. That whole team needs to take the blame. What a sh*t show.

[Spacemanspif]

Originally Posted by Mahomie

Man...Ben's getting hammered - not just here, but the entire internet.

If he stays this version of himself, I'm not sure if he makes another All-Star team. Just too many young upcoming cats like Booker, Trae, Ja, SGA, Fox (all of whom missed the cut this year).

true, but what bummed me out about your last sentence was only one of those guys is in the East. Guard in the West is the most brutal position for trying to make an All Star team

[drobfan8]

Embiid's comment on the turning point screams dump Simmons or he'll demand a trade in the near future.

The foul on the Huerter 3 when down 1 was a pretty key moment.

[KhalDrogo]

Originally Posted by 90sbasketballin

Ben Simmons and Furkan Korkmaz should be traded to the Lakers for

Montrezl, Schroder, Kuzma (or Wesley Matthews), and 2 picks (maybe one first).



The difference in Cap would be 2 million but still possible. Sounds like an awful trade, but, 76ers get their point guard and a near 20 ppg in Montrezl (who can run power or come off the bench). Kyle Kuzma or Wesley Matthews would be getting minutes of the bench, + pick (2022 First maybe)

Simmons is under the mentorship of LeBron (great bond with one another). LeBron's game compliments Simmons better and would make Simmons play as a slasher + Primary Defender (to help with their defense). HOPEFULLY, he can work on his jump shot... Lakers also get the necessary shooting they need in Kurkmaz.


This might sound horrible, or fair. It's 2:30 A.M.. Don't blame me

Terrible trade for the Lakers. And Beta Ben should work on his layup skills before he worries about jump shots. Needs to start with the basics.

[Scottish Punk]

First that Wilt picture overlay is hilarious.

Consider this scenario and it isn't terribly far fetched I don't think.
76ers don't trade Simmons either because they want to fix him for one more season or couldn't find the right value back.
They expiring contracts of Green, Hill, etc are spent on solid proven playoff veteran and they resign Howard. Try to reshape the team a bit just like the Bucks.
76ers have a great regular season ,end up in one of the top two seeds.
Lose before making the finals again.
Embiid would have one year on his contract going into the off-season. He is going to demand (and get) a full max deal. Does he demand a trade? Demand trading Simmons at a minimum? What about Curry and Harris? Curry would be a decent expiring contract and could help off-load Simmons at that point. Maxey and Thybulle will need to show that they are capable of being the back court. I think Harris has played well enough that he should still be a piece going forward.

The short of it is that they are in the same spot as the Bucks were a year or two ago with Giannis. They need to show Embiid that the team is all in on trying to win and Embiid has is re-up dangling in front. If Embiid leaves, this team is in full-rebuild mode again.

[Mahomie]

Originally Posted by Spacemanspif

true, but what bummed me out about your last sentence was only one of those guys is in the East. Guard in the West is the most brutal position for trying to make an All Star team

For sure - who knows where he gets dumped at this point, but if it's in the West, he'll definitely get lost in the mix.

[Guitarpatch]

Originally Posted by drobfan8

Embiid's comment on the turning point screams dump Simmons or he'll demand a trade in the near future.

The foul on the Huerter 3 when down 1 was a pretty key moment.

Embiid’s 8th turnover was a big pivotal moment as well. Their execution has always been their downfall in the playoffs. There’s enough blame to go around. Just not a great comment from your franchise leader

[rifleman69]

Originally Posted by drobfan8

I agree with this.

Simmons can be made the scapegoat but I'm not sure he's even the main problem for Philly.

Maybe the final 2 mins but Philly was +1 in his 36 mins and -8 in his 12 mins off the floor.

He's got the scared eyes thing going on and that's not gonna get you a title. But I have seen it in LeBron and KD. So it happens to the best.

They should defs trade him to a team that wants to just put bums on seats and doesn't want to contend.

At the end of the day there is no way that Philly should have lost to Atl. That whole team needs to take the blame. What a sh*t show.

Now you know why Glenn Rivers is a horrible horrible coach.

[KhalDrogo]

Originally Posted by Guitarpatch

Embiid’s 8th turnover was a big pivotal moment as well. Their execution has always been their downfall in the playoffs. There’s enough blame to go around. Just not a great comment from your franchise leader

Had to be said. Embiid has had to endure years of Beta Ben’s ineptitude on offense.

[Scottish Punk]

Originally Posted by Mahomie

For sure - who knows where he gets dumped at this point, but if it's in the West, he'll definitely get lost in the mix.

Agreed, the Gallinari steal/dunk will be the one shown in replays going forward. That play was pretty close to the closeout play.

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

Had to be said. Embiid has had to endure years of Beta Ben’s ineptitude on offense.

It works both ways, Simmons had to endure Embiid being hurt all time and gassed at the end of games. Both have had playoff stinkers. I will say Embiid is getting better and Simmons is regressing at least from an offensive stand point.

[2010GBPackers]

1) Simmons just saw his last game in a Sixers uniform. There's no way he wilts like that in crunch time, comments by Embiid and Rivers are made, and they "run it back."

2) Embiid has 2-3 years left on those legs, max. The window for the Sixers is all but closed, IMO.

[BaseballKing]

He's not.

[stalemonkey30]

I really hope he uses all of this as motivation to improve and doesn't just crumble after all of this.

[sebreg]

Originally Posted by stalemonkey30

I really hope he uses all of this as motivation to improve and doesn't just crumble after all of this.

From what I've heard he doesn't work hard in the offseasons. And from what we see, in terms of technical skills, what part of his game has actually improved since he entered the league? for a max money guy with such glaring flaws it's rather inexcusable. Should work with a good sport psychologist and find the best shooting coaches he can and practice shooting nonstop and with great focus. Not lackadaisically which seems to have been his approach. Maybe he doesn't care enough or has too much pride/arrogance, or mix of both.

[altaeria]

Originally Posted by stalemonkey30

I really hope he uses all of this as motivation to improve and doesn't just crumble after all of this.

Haha. Delusional much?
Here is his quote after that pathetic game 7 showing:

"I am who I am. It is what it is."

Disgraceful.

[altaeria]

I hope the Sixers do not trade him. Just keep him and stop paying him. Then when he and his agent takes them to court, the team can tie him up in endless pricey litigation until he has to sell off his prized lamborghini.

[hauntedcomputer]

Guy was encouraged to shoot with the wrong hand as a youngster. There's really no recovering at this point. Even if he started from scratch it would take five to ten years to really develop. Lost cause. It's not something you just "focus" on and suddenly undo a lifetime of bad habit.

As he said, he is what he is, and good luck trying to build a roster around it.

[Mahomie]

Originally Posted by hauntedcomputer

Guy was encouraged to shoot with the wrong hand as a youngster.

I remember seeing this interview with Ben a couple years ago, and he said something that struck me as odd.

At around the 1:25 mark, he mentions that 2018 was the first year he really worked on his jumper.



2018 was his second year in the NBA

At the time, I figured it was just taken out of context, but now I'm wondering if he really meant it.

Not trying to pile on at all, but his story is pretty fascinating (for better or worse).

[pingbling23]

Originally Posted by 90sbasketballin

Ben Simmons and Furkan Korkmaz should be traded to the Lakers for

Montrezl, Schroder, Kuzma (or Wesley Matthews), and 2 picks (maybe one first).



The difference in Cap would be 2 million but still possible. Sounds like an awful trade, but, 76ers get their point guard and a near 20 ppg in Montrezl (who can run power or come off the bench). Kyle Kuzma or Wesley Matthews would be getting minutes of the bench, + pick (2022 First maybe)

Simmons is under the mentorship of LeBron (great bond with one another). LeBron's game compliments Simmons better and would make Simmons play as a slasher + Primary Defender (to help with their defense). HOPEFULLY, he can work on his jump shot... Lakers also get the necessary shooting they need in Kurkmaz.


This might sound horrible, or fair. It's 2:30 A.M.. Don't blame me

Friends don’t let friends post outrageous trades at 230 in the morning

[rhigh2390]

"I ain't shoot well from the line this series," Simmons said following the Sixers' 103-96 Game 7 loss to the Atlanta Hawks.

[sebreg]

Originally Posted by hauntedcomputer

Guy was encouraged to shoot with the wrong hand as a youngster. There's really no recovering at this point. Even if he started from scratch it would take five to ten years to really develop. Lost cause. It's not something you just "focus" on and suddenly undo a lifetime of bad habit.

As he said, he is what he is, and good luck trying to build a roster around it.

To be fair, some guys are able to shoot well with non-dominant hand, including Lebron, a leftie who jump shoots right. But when you are as bad as Simmons is, you either try to fix the form on your left hand jump shot (which has obvious technical issues), or you nuke it even further and try rebuilding EVERYTHING with the right. Because at this point, it's not like he has anything to lose regarding retooling his jump shot, he doesn't use it at all in games. I really begin to think two things, he needs a sport's psy and he also needs to put in real work with the highest level shooting coaches possible. I heard his brother was his shooting coach for a long time even into his NBA career and that he refused to work with some of the top echelon shooting coaches.