Juan Soto Rejects $440M Offer From Nats

[rngrdanny22]

Originally Posted by eye4talent

The Giants are preparing their offer. I believe it looks something like this:




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Sadly, the Giants would probably STILL come out ahead with just Soto in return for that.

I mean, what's the likely best case scenario with those 12 names?
- 9 busts
- 2 decent players
- 1 star

And again, that's BEST CASE scenario.

[Seitas]

You guys have to quit minimizing that the money is JUST to play a game or to hit a ball with a stick. Ask Tom Brady if he is just playing a game, or throwing a ball. To play at this level you have to dedicate your entire LIFE to it. You don’t get days off, you don’t eat like you want, you don’t sleep like you want, you might not even live or raise your kids where you want to, you have to listen to complete MORONS opine on your life and performance as if they have any idea of what you are going through…you basically become public domain. There is a TON of sacrifice. Your anonymity is gone..you can’t take your kids to Disneyland or go to the grocery store without being mobbed. You are on a strict diet and work out EVERYDAY…there is no off-season. Those that say it’s just a kids game or it’s just hitting a ball with a stick are making the least logical and most delusional statement possible. And you’ve never actually known anyone that played professional sports. It’s grueling and not as fun as it sounds…it’s a job. A job with a narrow window and you need to make as much money as you can in that window because nothing afterwards is guaranteed.

[padremurph]

Originally Posted by BGeezy

Can the Padres swing something with their farm system? Something around Abrams and other pieces?

I would love to see a team with Tatis, Soto, and Machado all in the same lineup. Three of the cockiest Dominicans all on one team? Sign me up.

I would stay up on the East Coast to watch every single game.

Padres have plenty. Just not sure there’s enough money to sign him to an extension

Some combo of

Abrams
Hassell
Wood
Gore
Weathers
Gasser
Ruiz
Grisham
Merrill

[kidfan9]

Not sure where he ends up if he’s traded soon but if you have some nice Sotos your sitting on...HOLD!!!!

[SupermanBrandon]

Why would he want to play for the Nats and why would he take a discounted salary, to stay in Washington. The guy is a $500M+ contract. Ive said it for a long time. The Nats were never going to re-sign him. The Nats are losing bargaining power with each day that passes. They’ve should’ve traded him 18 months ago.


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[preakness]

If he's stays in DC he's closer to AOC and Dan Snyder

[packman80]

I think Nat's make one last run at him in off-season. If rejected again they take their time shop him for the largest package. Be it in high prospects coming back or in getting a club to take back any bad contracts the club might want to get rid of in lieu of big prospects coming back.

[Seitas]

Originally Posted by packman80

I think Nat's make one last run at him in off-season. If rejected again they take their time shop him for the largest package. Be it in high prospects coming back or in getting a club to take back any bad contracts the club might want to get rid of in lieu of big prospects coming back.

I believe they’ll trade him in the next two weeks to a contender that they can get max value from. If they wait until the end of the season it would open up his market and allow teams to make him the center of all of their off-season plans. That makes sense too, but it just feels like time is right. It’s inevitable that he’s leaving DC, and the longer he stays the lower his value.

[towerymt]

Soto + Strasburg + Corbin. Then, sell the team.

[anusinha]

Originally Posted by JRX

Letting rendon walk turned out to be the right answer.

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Leave it to the Angels to always make the dumbest move

[rman112]

Originally Posted by Robles Fan

The only reason why the Nats are sucking so badly right now is because of the blunder they've made in basically in letting all their other star players go within the last few years. Ever since winning the 2019 World Series it seems like this trash owner in Washington just simply doesn't care so much about winning another title anymore. So as much as I would want Soto to remain here, it's really not worth his time hanging around anymore - no matter the amount of money being offered up front. Especially since this franchise has already decided to go the way of the Angels.

Does giving Strasburg the worst contract in baseball history not count?

[atk825]

Originally Posted by rman112

Does giving Strasburg the worst contract in baseball history not count?

They also avoided giving Rendon a big deal to be hurt for three years now.

[jhssketchcards]

Wherever he goes, he will want to be the only player on said team that is flashy IMO. I mean that in a positive way. His persona and style suits him very well and he backs it up for sure. I can’t see him going to SD with Tatis, ATL with Acuna etc. who are similar to his moxy. I could see him in SF, or even STL. who knows he could very well wind up with someone like Milwaukee.


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[Eckstein197]

I’m not shocked he said no to this contract. Yes obviously 440 million is a lot of money but the AAV is just under 30 million, which would put Soto around 17th in the MLB in salary per year. Given Soto’s youth and skills already, he should be getting way more than 30 million a year. As simple as that. If the deal was say 11-12 years, maybe he takes that. Not at 15 years

[Eckstein197]

Originally Posted by SethMurphy

This might be the greatest 2 weeks if the Nationals really do get aggressive in trying to trade him before the deadline.


Unfortunately for me (Yankees fan) and much of baseball, I think the Dodgers could put together a really strong package for him and not hurt their current roster. They have a crazy amount of pitching talent, which teams love in deals. Young, controlled arms.



EDIT - to answer the Yankees question above, I trade anyone not named Volpe honestly if we could. Dominguez, anyone else. Problem we would have is we would need to try and get them to take on someone like Joey Gallo because we wouldn't have enough roster spots to keep Soto, Judge, Stanton, Hicks, Gallo and Carpenter active right now without limiting our bench terribly.

I'd love to see something where Gallo goes as a major league player, Dominguez and prospect 1 and just let them take anyone they want from our Top-30 not named Volpe. Trade them 10 players for all I care.

You aren’t getting Soto if Volpe isn’t on the table

[Eckstein197]

If this was 2018/2019, I would love to see the Yankees fans say Andujar and Frazier would be enough for Soto.

[Eckstein197]

I do think if the Nats trade Soto, there’s roughly a zero percent chance their return comes anywhere close to matching Soto’s production going forward. There’s no precedent for someone this talented, so young being available in a potential trade

I don’t really even see a potential trade that could be fair. Unless the Nats just say “give us 15 prospects” and hope sheer quantity wins out

[Remmons22]

Originally Posted by Eckstein197

If this was 2018/2019, I would love to see the Yankees fans say Andujar and Frazier would be enough for Soto.

Sounds fair to me

[pewe]

Originally Posted by Seitas

You guys have to quit minimizing that the money is JUST to play a game or to hit a ball with a stick. Ask Tom Brady if he is just playing a game, or throwing a ball. To play at this level you have to dedicate your entire LIFE to it. You don’t get days off, you don’t eat like you want, you don’t sleep like you want, you might not even live or raise your kids where you want to, you have to listen to complete MORONS opine on your life and performance as if they have any idea of what you are going through…you basically become public domain. There is a TON of sacrifice. Your anonymity is gone..you can’t take your kids to Disneyland or go to the grocery store without being mobbed. You are on a strict diet and work out EVERYDAY…there is no off-season. Those that say it’s just a kids game or it’s just hitting a ball with a stick are making the least logical and most delusional statement possible. And you’ve never actually known anyone that played professional sports. It’s grueling and not as fun as it sounds…it’s a job. A job with a narrow window and you need to make as much money as you can in that window because nothing afterwards is guaranteed.

So... you are saying that if you were offered $440MM to have an awesome personal life and work with people you enjoy, you would pass it up for an opportunity to earn $500MM even if it meant you'd have a poor personal life, vilified by fans, and no friends (stated harshly for contrast, but you get the point, I think... $$$ isn't the entire equation)?

I'm not sure having a vapid life is worth $60MM, when the alternative is $440MM and an enjoyable life.

Somehow (perhaps because of all the flippers and investors on these boards) people seem to think that maximizing cash $$ is always the right choice. Most people weigh more than $$ in their choice. And the ones who do probably live a better and richer life.

[packman80]

Originally Posted by towerymt

Soto + Strasburg + Corbin. Then, sell the team.

That would clear $200 million off the boooks But I can't see any team agreeing to take both Strasburg and Corbin and give Soto $500 million.

[packman80]

Originally Posted by jhssketchcards

Wherever he goes, he will want to be the only player on said team that is flashy IMO. I mean that in a positive way. His persona and style suits him very well and he backs it up for sure. I can’t see him going to SD with Tatis, ATL with Acuna etc. who are similar to his moxy. I could see him in SF, or even STL. who knows he could very well wind up with someone like Milwaukee.


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MKE does not have ablility to pay contract to keep him. Also MKE does not have enough good prospects to get a trade done.

[gododgersfan]

Soto now and age 32 is different in terms of personal joy vs money. Right now, the bottom line is money. At age 32, family and other considerations come into play. Just look at the recent Freddie Freeman situation.

[JRX]

Originally Posted by pewe

So... you are saying that if you were offered $440MM to have an awesome personal life and work with people you enjoy, you would pass it up for an opportunity to earn $500MM even if it meant you'd have a poor personal life, vilified by fans, and no friends (stated harshly for contrast, but you get the point, I think... $$$ isn't the entire equation)?



I'm not sure having a vapid life is worth $60MM, when the alternative is $440MM and an enjoyable life.



Somehow (perhaps because of all the flippers and investors on these boards) people seem to think that maximizing cash $$ is always the right choice. Most people weigh more than $$ in their choice. And the ones who do probably live a better and richer life.

Once you're in the 9 figures club I cant imagine things being that different until you get into the 4 commas club.

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[rman112]

Originally Posted by gododgersfan

Soto now and age 32 is different in terms of personal joy vs money. Right now, the bottom line is money. At age 32, family and other considerations come into play. Just look at the recent Freddie Freeman situation.

Could be tough to take care of the family with $440 million.

[JRX]

Originally Posted by rman112

Could be tough to take care of the family with $440 million.

Hes gotta deal with inflation too

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