Ohtanis translator fired for stealing

[spuds1961]

Ohtani hoping he doesn’t come out of this smelling like a Rose.

[hermanotarjeta]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

Well, we've been told that he is a great financier, having decided to defer his payments for decades to incur less taxes.

I don't believe that tracks with "my interpreter can transfer a million out of my account and I had no idea".

Yeah, I’m not sure athletes handle seven figure bank accounts the same way we common folk do. Maybe he sees it as his “fun account” that many people have access to.

[hermanotarjeta]

Originally Posted by spuds1961

Ohtani hoping he doesn’t come out of this smelling like a Rose.

Haha.

[baseballbunez]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

If you believe everything reported, Ohtani transferred $1 million to an illegal bookmaker in CA to pay down gambling debts.

At the very least, that is the definition of wire fraud as outlined in the 1961 Interstate Wire Act.

Wild story.

The ESPN story states it is "at least $4.5m in wire transfers sent from Ohtani's account", I think if there is a pattern there of the payments being split months and months apart that is going to draw further scrutiny in to their "gambling debt reimbursement" explanation here.

[anusinha]

Originally Posted by JRX

Which is why they gotta go with the it was stolen story. I guess they'll say the interpreter hacked his computer or claim he had access to it, go to jail and his family will be taken care of.

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This sounds like Tatis mixing up a fungal cream with a steroid.

[Stifle]

Originally Posted by baseballbunez

The ESPN story states it is "at least $4.5m in wire transfers sent from Ohtani's account", I think if there is a pattern there of the payments being split months and months apart that is going to draw further scrutiny in to their "gambling debt reimbursement" explanation here.

I wonder if Ohtani, err the interpreter stiffed a bookie ?

[zbaseball21]

Originally Posted by anusinha

Probably betting on the Angels to lose

If he was he wouldn't have lost 4.5 million (i'm sure someone already made this joke but i haven't scrolled yet)

[hermanotarjeta]

Originally Posted by zbaseball21

If he was he wouldn't have lost 4.5 million (i'm sure someone already made this joke but i haven't scrolled yet)

Yeah, he was probably betting the over on how many games played for Trout.

[anusinha]

Originally Posted by hermanotarjeta

Yeah, he was probably betting the over on how many games played for Trout.

He bet $4 mill on the over on "Hits by Rendon in the second half of the season - 1"

[Archangel1775]

The sad part is Ohtani had what was probably his closest American friend betray him. I know he was an employee but its clear the relationship grew to a friendship. As someone mentioned, its just too obvious to be sending that kind of money to someone if you believe its something that should be hidden. Its possible the interpreter had his own bank account under Ohtani's and used for the illicit purpose over the course of 5-6 years.

[baseballbunez]

Originally Posted by Archangel1775

The sad part is Ohtani had what was probably his closest American friend betray him. I know he was an employee but its clear the relationship grew to a friendship. As someone mentioned, its just too obvious to be sending that kind of money to someone if you believe its something that should be hidden. Its possible the interpreter had his own bank account under Ohtani's and used for the illicit purpose over the course of 5-6 years.

The translator has been working with Ohtani since 2013, when Ohtani was 18 years old playing in Japan.

[quackhead]

Originally Posted by JWBlue

Are there discounts on Ohtanis on eBay?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/20470448527...Bk9SR-CB0PrLYw

[majestik101]

Only $2k

https://www.ebay.com/itm/28577570107...Bk9SR6aX5PvLYw

[BigL7370]

Originally Posted by asymmetricalbet

The Pete Rose/Shohei dual patch auto could be chase of the year.

I bet Leaf still has a grip of Ohtani labels left.

[johnlocke36]

So something I haven’t really seen mentioned and the biggest thing that could screw ohtani is everyone keeps saying why would book let translor have this credit limit. One scenario is he is/was privy to lots of inside information and easily could have traded that info in exchange for kickback on what he owes, extensions to pay etc.

Hopefully not the cases and would be tough to prove but are one reason why book what let number get so big for guy making what he did

[fabiani12333]

Originally Posted by johnlocke36

So something I haven’t really seen mentioned and the biggest thing that could screw ohtani is everyone keeps saying why would book let translor have this credit limit. One scenario is he is/was privy to lots of inside information and easily could have traded that info in exchange for kickback on what he owes, extensions to pay etc.

Hopefully not the cases and would be tough to prove but are one reason why book what let number get so big for guy making what he did

I think that makes the most sense, unfortunately.

[SleeperCards]

I'm not familiar with all the baseball scandals, but if you sold Franco stuff the day the first news dropped, did you get market or at least close to market? How long did it take his stuff to drop 50%? What percentage is it at now compared to day 1 of news breaking?

[KhalDrogo]

Originally Posted by Fenway55

It is farfetched that a bookie would extend such a large line of credit to someone making $200k per year (give of take) who isn't paying off the debts.

Originally Posted by SleeperCards

I'm not familiar with all the baseball scandals, but if you sold Franco stuff the day the first news dropped, did you get market or at least close to market? How long did it take his stuff to drop 50%? What percentage is it at now compared to day 1 of news breaking?

Wander plummeted pretty much immediately. August 12 (day before the allegations) you had PSA 10 BCs sell for $46 and $50. August 14 you got $41, $36, and $37. Under $25 by August 20. The last sale was $8.05. His CL index is down 76% since the news.

[SleeperCards]

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

Wander plummeted pretty much immediately. August 12 (day before the allegations) you had PSA 10 BCs sell for $46 and $50. August 14 you got $41, $36, and $37. Under $25 by August 20. The last sale was $8.05. His CL index is down 76% since the news.

Interesting, thanks.

[KhalDrogo]

Originally Posted by SleeperCards

Interesting, thanks.

I don’t think there are any parallels to draw between the two. Ohtani is 1000x the star that Wander was. Ohtani is a nice guy, while Wander was a diva who had already pissed off his own team more than once. While some wanted to paint the Wander stories as speculation, the evidence was very believable. I give Ohtani the benefit of the doubt here that he was just trying to help his friend out and made a mistake of ignorance. If that’s the truth, the MLB will allow things to play out. And I wouldn’t expect Ohtani to get anything but maybe a short suspension way down the road.

[hammertime]

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

I don’t think there are any parallels to draw between the two. Ohtani is 1000x the star that Wander was. Ohtani is a nice guy, while Wander was a diva who had already pissed off his own team more than once. While some wanted to paint the Wander stories as speculation, the evidence was very believable. I give Ohtani the benefit of the doubt here that he was just trying to help his friend out and made a mistake of ignorance. If that’s the truth, the MLB will allow things to play out. And I wouldn’t expect Ohtani to get anything but maybe a short suspension way down the road.

Not to mention there's a world of difference between pedophilia and gambling.

[KhalDrogo]

Originally Posted by hammertime

Not to mention there's a world of difference between pedophilia and gambling.

As we learned in the Wander and Giddey threads, that’s not the case to many on this site.

[cbeauch87]

This story is so wild. I'm of the belief that Shohei was paying Ippei's debt and nothing more than that. However, wiring the money directly from his account to the illegal bookie was a mistake. On the surface, that looks really, really bad, so Ohtani's camp needed Ippei to fall on the sword.

Racking up 4.5 sheets in gambling debt is genuinely impressive. Did this dude ever win a bet? I have serious remorse when I lose a $50 bet. I can't imagine dropping hundreds of thousands at a time.

[packman80]

No matter what invovlment Ohtani had MLB will make sure it's covered up. Way to much money to lose for everyone for him to be found doing anything even close to shady.

[Ferg1945]

Originally Posted by packman80

No matter what invovlment Ohtani had MLB will make sure it's covered up. Way to much money to lose for everyone for him to be found doing anything even close to shady.

I don't know.

Interwebs is full of sleuths. They got started immediately after the news broke. MLB might be too late in covering his tracks if Ohtani did anything illegal.