2025 NFL Draft - Page 7

asujbl · 03-25-2025, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by 49erRCCollector

I love "planted" news like this:

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...ter-trade-haul

It's like, do people NOT know what this is? This is not a chess move, it's checkers. Obvious and silly...

They are going to get stuck with Ward. No one is giving them the Bryce Young haul

Yes I chose those words deliberately

slyguy · 03-25-2025, 06:04 PM

Pitt screwed up letting Russ walk.

This was sloppy.

They are now basically pushed into ARodgers or a fairly scrubby FA.

packman80 · 03-25-2025, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by slyguy

Pitt screwed up letting Russ walk.

This was sloppy.

They are now basically pushed into ARodgers or a fairly scrubby FA.

Could always make a trade for Cousins if Rodgers retires or he keeps dicking around to point you no longer want to wait on him.

Floridacardguy · 03-25-2025, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by slyguy

Pitt screwed up letting Russ walk.

This was sloppy.

They are now basically pushed into ARodgers or a fairly scrubby FA.

Why? The guy is garbage. With every post you make you prove you don’t know football

Zauron · 03-25-2025, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Floridacardguy

Why? The guy is garbage. With every post you make you prove you don’t know football

His nonsense about football is something else man.

Steeler fans at the end of the year realized why Denver fans wanted off the Russ train.

There's a lot of bad,mediocre aging QB's out there that aren't worth paying tons into anymore.

Floridacardguy · 03-26-2025, 02:11 PM

Will Howard with a nice pro day today. Makes a difference when you throw to guys who you have rhythm and timing with. Makes up for the combine.

Tyler Shough had his yesterday and picked up right where he left off at the combine looking sharp.

Next up, Jaxson Dart

michaeltgraham · 03-27-2025, 07:55 AM

With all of the “debunked” Dak to Cleveland talk…

What if the Cowboys/ Jerry Joens really wants Shedeur? Would the Browns trade the #2 pick to the Cowboys if Sanders does not go #1?

Browns get:
Dak
Cowboys #12 pick

Cowboys get:
#2 pick
Deshaun Watson ($$ comes off the books quicker than Daks)

I don’t think this is too crazy…well, kind of! If the Cowboys can get some of that salary off of the books, get a QB on a rookie contract, they can pay some of their other guys and hope Sanders, Deion and Shedeur works out!

Browns swap salary to afford Dak and get a #1 QB

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slyguy · 03-27-2025, 01:06 PM

Guys, Cowboys could take Shedeur Sanders right where they are at.
I don't think they want him. Why would they?
They will probably take Jeanty if he falls to them #12 (unlikely) or take BPA that they need.

Cowboys are a competitive team as-is. They aren't going to do any wholesale changes.
Prescott is not the top QB, but he's pretty good and has more prime years upcoming. The roster is pretty solid.

They had 3 straight 12-win seasons 2021-23.
The whole narrative the Dallas sucks and Washington is good was simply some injuries 2024 season. It's fake news.

Siberian13 · 03-27-2025, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by michaeltgraham

With all of the “debunked” Dak to Cleveland talk…

What if the Cowboys/ Jerry Joens really wants Shedeur? Would the Browns trade the #2 pick to the Cowboys if Sanders does not go #1?

Browns get:
Dak
Cowboys #12 pick

Cowboys get:
#2 pick
Deshaun Watson ($$ comes off the books quicker than Daks)

I don’t think this is too crazy…well, kind of! If the Cowboys can get some of that salary off of the books, get a QB on a rookie contract, they can pay some of their other guys and hope Sanders, Deion and Shedeur works out!

Browns swap salary to afford Dak and get a #1 QB

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It’s like both teams hate their fans.

Slvnumber2 · 03-28-2025, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Floridacardguy

Yeah, I was saying that Ward would be the top QB pick when he signed w. Miami, before any experts. Whatta ya know, I was right. It was the same time I said he could win the Heisman, I was wrong on that, he was top 3 in the Heisman race still pretty close

Way to go out on a limb - wasn’t like most experts pegged him to be top 3 AB pick when he left Wash State for UM. Problem with UM is they don’t have the culture or talent going through Coral Gables any more. They have had a difficult time getting players drafted in the top 3 rounds in the NFL draft for almost a decade, and it is no coincidence that their on field results mirror their draft results no matter who is the coach - Golden, Diaz, Mario, Randy…Maybe Ward going #1 helps them a little, but until they dominate recruiting south Florida they are going to get the same results - 8-4 or 9-3 record and not contending.

Floridacardguy · 03-28-2025, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Slvnumber2

Way to go out on a limb - wasn’t like most experts pegged him to be top 3 AB pick when he left Wash State for UM. Problem with UM is they don’t have the culture or talent going through Coral Gables any more. They have had a difficult time getting players drafted in the top 3 rounds in the NFL draft for almost a decade, and it is no coincidence that their on field results mirror their draft results no matter who is the coach - Golden, Diaz, Mario, Randy…Maybe Ward going #1 helps them a little, but until they dominate recruiting south Florida they are going to get the same results - 8-4 or 9-3 record and not contending.

They need to turn an eye to grabbing Def players. I think Beck will rebound this year and put up great #s, they always seem to pick up good Off players.

slyguy · 03-31-2025, 10:31 PM

Interesting stuff coming out lately with workout invites and team visits... Sanders could fall to 4th or even later QB taken in this (weak) quarterback 2025 group.

Ward is fairly consensus top QB, and he might be the next Jameis or the next star...
...but some buzz that Dart and maybe Kyle McCord or others could get drafted over Shedeur later this month. Guess we'll see.

Some of it is probably smoke-screening, but I suppose you can fix turnovers and decision making for a young QB with proper coaching, but you can't fix lack of ability or hesitation and holding onto the ball and taking a bunch of bad sacks.

Floridacardguy · 04-01-2025, 05:17 AM

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Originally Posted by slyguy

Interesting stuff coming out lately with workout invites and team visits... Sanders could fall to 4th or even later QB taken in this (weak) quarterback 2025 group.

Ward is fairly consensus top QB, and he might be the next Jameis or the next star...
...but some buzz that Dart and maybe Kyle McCord or others could get drafted over Shedeur later this month. Guess we'll see.

Some of it is probably smoke-screening, but I suppose you can fix turnovers and decision making for a young QB with proper coaching, but you can't fix lack of ability or hesitation and holding onto the ball and taking a bunch of bad sacks.

Ward IS the consensus top QB> There I fixed it for you.
Yeah, I think you were one of the people laughing when I said Dart or Shough would possibly overtake Sanders in QB draft order. It's not just his physical tools(lack of)but the baggage of his dad, coupled with Shedeur having lackluster interviews with teams

4barrel · 04-01-2025, 07:23 AM

I hope to see Tyler Shough make it!

packman80 · 04-06-2025, 04:32 PM

Milroe invited to the draft. Did not think he was a 1st round pick. NFL must be getting told by at least one team they are looking at taking him otherwise you don't invite a guy going in the 2nd round.

blackvodka · 04-06-2025, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by packman80

Milroe invited to the draft. Did not think he was a 1st round pick. NFL must be getting told by at least one team they are looking at taking him otherwise you don't invite a guy going in the 2nd round.

Honestly, it seems likely at this point. Especially since I'm starting to see Dort projected at pick 7-9. Pick 21-28 will likely have a 4th QB taken.

Floridacardguy · 04-07-2025, 05:17 AM

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Originally Posted by packman80

Milroe invited to the draft. Did not think he was a 1st round pick. NFL must be getting told by at least one team they are looking at taking him otherwise you don't invite a guy going in the 2nd round.

Will Levis says hold my beer. NO CHANCE Milroe goes round 1 (well he should not, but maybe a team that wants him rd 2 takes him with last pick or 2 of rd 1 to get the extra year on his deal, but he's not even a rd 2 pick in my eyes, he's a third rounder)

Floridacardguy · 04-07-2025, 05:19 AM

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Originally Posted by blackvodka

Honestly, it seems likely at this point. Especially since I'm starting to see Dort projected at pick 7-9. Pick 21-28 will likely have a 4th QB taken.

I have been saying for months Dart is going early

jmarascojr · 04-07-2025, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by packman80

Milroe invited to the draft. Did not think he was a 1st round pick. NFL must be getting told by at least one team they are looking at taking him otherwise you don't invite a guy going in the 2nd round.

The NFL needs someone to be sitting in that waiting room to pity and talk about cause they haven't been picked yet on Day 1...

slyguy · 04-07-2025, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Floridacardguy

... NO CHANCE Milroe goes round 1 ...

You have no idea of this.
Milroe is probably the best QB athlete in the draft, and he's won far more big games then Ward, Sanders, or others.
The success of Jalen Hurts this past year also has more teams looking at him (similar skill set).

ESPN is the supposed mecca for inside info, and today they were bouncing Sanders going #2 Browns or #3 NYG... or not in the first round at all.
So yeah, they basically have no idea... and they're the supposed top experts?!?!?

Draft is basically like stock market: nobody knows anything.
To pretend we do is foolish.

There is a lot of good non-QB talent in this draft. The 2025 QB talent is about as thin as it's ever been.
Taking QBs with high picks makes them very expensive very fast and basically has to ensure they're starter quality.

I wouldn't doubt if Cam Ward goes top 3 picks simply due to lack of QBs overall, then Dart and Milroe are taken over Sanders (who falls out of first round). But hey, opinions are like a-holes, ya know?

Siberian13 · 04-07-2025, 02:01 PM

ESPN are experts?

Floridacardguy · 04-07-2025, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by slyguy

You have no idea of this.
Milroe is probably the best QB athlete in the draft, and he's won far more big games then Ward, Sanders, or others.
The success of Jalen Hurts this past year also has more teams looking at him (similar skill set).

ESPN is the supposed mecca for inside info, and today they were bouncing Sanders going #2 Browns or #3 NYG... or not in the first round at all.
So yeah, they basically have no idea... and they're the supposed top experts?!?!?

Draft is basically like stock market: nobody knows anything.
To pretend we do is foolish.

There is a lot of good non-QB talent in this draft. The 2025 QB talent is about as thin as it's ever been.
Taking QBs with high picks makes them very expensive very fast and basically has to ensure they're starter quality.

I wouldn't doubt if Cam Ward goes top 3 picks simply due to lack of QBs overall, then Dart and Milroe are taken over Sanders (who falls out of first round). But hey, opinions are like a-holes, ya know?

Well Ward will go #1

Fenway55 · 04-07-2025, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by slyguy

ESPN is the supposed mecca for inside info, and today they were bouncing Sanders going #2 Browns or #3 NYG... or not in the first round at all.
So yeah, they basically have no idea... and they're the supposed top experts?!?!?

ESPN has hours and hours of programming to fill talking about the NFL so they do worthless mock after worthless mock after worthless mock.

They will do a meaningless mock one day and then next day, since they don't want to have all the same conversations, do a fresh but even more meaningless mock.

DMACcollector · 04-07-2025, 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slyguy

You have no idea of this.
Milroe is probably the best QB athlete in the draft, and he's won far more big games then Ward, Sanders, or others.
The success of Jalen Hurts this past year also has more teams looking at him (similar skill set).

ESPN is the supposed mecca for inside info, and today they were bouncing Sanders going #2 Browns or #3 NYG... or not in the first round at all.
So yeah, they basically have no idea... and they're the supposed top experts?!?!?

Draft is basically like stock market: nobody knows anything.
To pretend we do is foolish.

There is a lot of good non-QB talent in this draft. The 2025 QB talent is about as thin as it's ever been.
Taking QBs with high picks makes them very expensive very fast and basically has to ensure they're starter quality.

I wouldn't doubt if Cam Ward goes top 3 picks simply due to lack of QBs overall, then Dart and Milroe are taken over Sanders (who falls out of first round). But hey, opinions are like a-holes, ya know?

Just read a report saying Hunter is probably going to Browns at #2. I could see the Browns trading back into the very end of the 1st round to get Milroe.

asujbl · 04-07-2025, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by DMACcollector

Just read a report saying Hunter is probably going to Browns at #2. I could see the Browns trading back into the very end of the 1st round to get Milroe.

Hunter is the heavy betting favorite at this point. I'd be shocked if he isn't the choice

If the Browns take Milroe any earlier than #67 I'm going to break my TV

04-07-2025, 02:01 PM	#171
Siberian13 Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Posts: 78,485 shiller13	ESPN are experts? __________________ O say, does that star-spangled banner yet wave O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave

03-25-2025, 06:04 PM	#152
slyguy Banned Join Date: Jan 2025 Location: SW USA Posts: 1,057	Pitt screwed up letting Russ walk. This was sloppy. They are now basically pushed into ARodgers or a fairly scrubby FA.

03-26-2025, 02:11 PM	#156
Floridacardguy Member Join Date: Dec 2022 Posts: 9,786	Will Howard with a nice pro day today. Makes a difference when you throw to guys who you have rhythm and timing with. Makes up for the combine. Tyler Shough had his yesterday and picked up right where he left off at the combine looking sharp. Next up, Jaxson Dart

03-27-2025, 07:55 AM	#157
michaeltgraham Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 387	With all of the “debunked” Dak to Cleveland talk… What if the Cowboys/ Jerry Joens really wants Shedeur? Would the Browns trade the #2 pick to the Cowboys if Sanders does not go #1? Browns get: Dak Cowboys #12 pick Cowboys get: #2 pick Deshaun Watson ($$ comes off the books quicker than Daks) I don’t think this is too crazy…well, kind of! If the Cowboys can get some of that salary off of the books, get a QB on a rookie contract, they can pay some of their other guys and hope Sanders, Deion and Shedeur works out! Browns swap salary to afford Dak and get a #1 QB Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

03-27-2025, 01:06 PM	#158
slyguy Banned Join Date: Jan 2025 Location: SW USA Posts: 1,057	Guys, Cowboys could take Shedeur Sanders right where they are at. I don't think they want him. Why would they? They will probably take Jeanty if he falls to them #12 (unlikely) or take BPA that they need. Cowboys are a competitive team as-is. They aren't going to do any wholesale changes. Prescott is not the top QB, but he's pretty good and has more prime years upcoming. The roster is pretty solid. They had 3 straight 12-win seasons 2021-23. The whole narrative the Dallas sucks and Washington is good was simply some injuries 2024 season. It's fake news.

03-31-2025, 10:31 PM	#162
slyguy Banned Join Date: Jan 2025 Location: SW USA Posts: 1,057	Interesting stuff coming out lately with workout invites and team visits... Sanders could fall to 4th or even later QB taken in this (weak) quarterback 2025 group. Ward is fairly consensus top QB, and he might be the next Jameis or the next star... ...but some buzz that Dart and maybe Kyle McCord or others could get drafted over Shedeur later this month. Guess we'll see. Some of it is probably smoke-screening, but I suppose you can fix turnovers and decision making for a young QB with proper coaching, but you can't fix lack of ability or hesitation and holding onto the ball and taking a bunch of bad sacks.

04-01-2025, 07:23 AM	#164
4barrel Member Join Date: Oct 2022 Location: Georgetown, Kentucky Posts: 915 fourbarrelsmith	I hope to see Tyler Shough make it!

04-06-2025, 04:32 PM	#165
packman80 Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 17,222	Milroe invited to the draft. Did not think he was a 1st round pick. NFL must be getting told by at least one team they are looking at taking him otherwise you don't invite a guy going in the 2nd round.