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Old 11-08-2015, 12:28 PM   #151
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Jason Pierre Paul making his 2015 season debut today. Hopefully he, and his mangled hook hand don't do anything significant to our passing attack. Unfortunately, V-Jax will be missing his second consecutive game, and it is unlikely that ASJ will be playing, so it will be up to Mike Evans and Russell Shepard to make some plays.

Our defense also needs to step up, can't allow Eli Manning to throw all over the field like he did last week against New Orleans. I also expect Doug Martin to have some quality runs today.

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Old 11-08-2015, 07:37 PM   #152
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...And the Bucs lose another game they should've won. Hold on to the dang ball Mike Evans. Way too many drops from him today.

Jameis Winston is getting it done on the field. The Bucs problems right now is certainly not on him.
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Old 11-08-2015, 08:51 PM   #153
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Way to many penalties. Lovie smith sucks. We have talent but no motivator. Jameis is a beast .
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Old 11-08-2015, 09:16 PM   #154
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Way to many penalties. Lovie smith sucks. We have talent but no motivator. Jameis is a beast .
Agreed. Lovie needs to go after the season.

The Bucs also need to stop shooting themselves in the foot with penalties, and Mike Evans needs to get better making catches. He had 6 drops, which is the most by a player in a game in the last 10 seasons.

Winston and Evans would have had 85 more yards had Evans not dropped any passes. That would have made a big difference.
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As someone who hates the Giants this was arguably the most disappointing loss of the season for me. I love Evans but man were some of those drops bad. Not only were they bad drops but they were big drops. That bomb that he dropped might have gone for a TD. He also had I think 3 drops on 3rd down that would have kept the drive alive, including one on the drive where Barth missed the FG. Lets also not forget the drop by Martin on what very easily could have been a long TD.

With that being said Winston looked very good again. Without some of those drops his numbers look ALOT better. He's done a very good job at not making the stupid throws that turn into INTS the past couple weeks. He's also doing it with very little pass catching talent around him. I'm definitely looking forward to ASJ and VJax coming back soon.

As frustrating as some of these losses have been, its certainly been enjoyable watching the offense improve. Now the Defense just needs to start taking steps forward.
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Old 11-09-2015, 10:23 AM   #156
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You guys are impatient like a lot of our fan base. I sincerely hope the Glazers are not as impatient and emotional as some of the fan base.

Bad teams stay bad when they fail to commit to full rebuilds, we are in Year 2 of a full rebuild. They drafted 1 defensive player in 2 years because they felt the offense was worse and a more pressing need. Unsurprisingly the team has gotten much better on offense and the defense, specifically the secondary needs help.

We're right around the corner from where we want to be, need to be and people want to blow it up because they can't wait, get emotional and have unrealistic expectations.
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Old 11-09-2015, 10:34 AM   #157
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You guys are impatient like a lot of our fan base. I sincerely hope the Glazers are not as impatient and emotional as some of the fan base.

Bad teams stay bad when they fail to commit to full rebuilds, we are in Year 2 of a full rebuild. They drafted 1 defensive player in 2 years because they felt the offense was worse and a more pressing need. Unsurprisingly the team has gotten much better on offense and the defense, specifically the secondary needs help.

We're right around the corner from where we want to be, need to be and people want to blow it up because they can't wait, get emotional and have unrealistic expectations.
Does that mean you want to keep Lovie Smith as the head coach?
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Old 11-09-2015, 11:48 AM   #158
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If Im yelling at the tv cause guys on the field getting paid millions are sucking, then I want a head coach who is yelling at his players. Lovie's poker face expression, whether we are winning by 10 or losing by 40 really pisses me off. Plus the stupid freaking penalties. That has got to be on the coach.
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Old 11-09-2015, 11:49 AM   #159
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You guys are impatient like a lot of our fan base. I sincerely hope the Glazers are not as impatient and emotional as some of the fan base.

Bad teams stay bad when they fail to commit to full rebuilds, we are in Year 2 of a full rebuild. They drafted 1 defensive player in 2 years because they felt the offense was worse and a more pressing need. Unsurprisingly the team has gotten much better on offense and the defense, specifically the secondary needs help.

We're right around the corner from where we want to be, need to be and people want to blow it up because they can't wait, get emotional and have unrealistic expectations.
I'm very patient. I have been patient with this team for several years now. Winston is doing just what I thought he would, which is make progression from week to week. Where I lose my patience is with a coach who can't control his players with the high amount of penalties, an inconsistent defense which plays great one series and falters the next series, allowing an open receiver to stand undefended in the end zone and make a TD catch, and a 2nd year receiver (who in my eyes is among the elite) not making catches that he normally would make.

Patience is a virtue when it comes to supporting this team. It's not the end of the world, the team is 3-5, and ASJ and V-Jax are coming back to help.
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Old 11-09-2015, 12:11 PM   #160
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Does that mean you want to keep Lovie Smith as the head coach?
Clearly, they have rebuilt this offense completely in 2 years. Given the chance to invest high picks in our defense and secondary this will be a playoff team. Starting 2 rookie play callers (offense and defense) isn't great short term but was the right call long term.
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Old 11-09-2015, 12:38 PM   #161
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Clearly, they have rebuilt this offense completely in 2 years. Given the chance to invest high picks in our defense and secondary this will be a playoff team. Starting 2 rookie play callers (offense and defense) isn't great short term but was the right call long term.
Well put.

I will say, I have the most optimism about this team than I have had in YEARS. That is saying something.
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Old 11-09-2015, 01:51 PM   #162
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Well put.

I will say, I have the most optimism about this team than I have had in YEARS. That is saying something.
They couldn't possibly fix all the issues with this team in 2 years. This regime, and Lovie definitely has a big say along with Jason Licht, are absolutely killing the draft. Great #1 WR(Starter), super talented TE(Starter), extremely fast RB with great hands(Back Up who sees signifact time), Buccaneers QB for the next 15 years(Starter), LT who has exceeded all expectations(Starter), RG who has been one of the best run blocking OGs in the league(Starter), MLB who has flashed some really special talent(Starter). 6 starters all who have/are performed at a high level this season and a key backup who is a great change of pace RB, and people can't see where this thing is going? Evans, Sims and ASJ have all shown growth as a player and developed from last year to this year.

All the problems this defense has can be traced back to the horrendous seconday, outside of Banks and McDougald(possibly), it needs to be completely rebuilt. They will have that chance this year, expect 2 of our first 4 picks to be DBs and possibly another one late. We're a RE and some DB help away from being a good defense if not great.
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Old 11-15-2015, 05:02 PM   #163
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Congrats to the Bucs on the win! Not a pretty game, but at this point, a win is a win.

Jameis Winston was not particularly impressive, threw two INT's, but helps his team march downfield on a 56 yard drive in the closing minutes to help improve the Bucs to a 4-5 record.

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Old 11-15-2015, 05:34 PM   #164
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Thankfully they had that holding penalty on the Cowboys on the play that Winston fumbled at the goal line otherwise that would have ended the game! But yes a win is a win even though it was very ugly. The Cowboys are very pathetic though.
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Old 11-15-2015, 05:50 PM   #165
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Jameis wasn't on his game but he drove the team down the field and picked up the victory. I think that's a true showing off a QB's character on the field. Even when he's having a rough day, having that ability to shake it off and lead the team in the final minutes for the victory. Clutch
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Old 11-15-2015, 06:17 PM   #166
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Jameis wasn't on his game but he drove the team down the field and picked up the victory. I think that's a true showing off a QB's character on the field. Even when he's having a rough day, having that ability to shake it off and lead the team in the final minutes for the victory. Clutch
True. He didn't lose his composure down the stretch. Was able to shake off his mistakes from earlier, and gather his team around him to give his team the opportunity to win at home. The guy's a born leader, I was really impressed with what he was able to do towards the end of the game.

And could you imagine if he hadn't fumbled on the goal line, and scored that touchdown? That would have been the play of the year, on par with Cam Newton's tumble earlier in the season!
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Jameis gives everything he has to this team and expects the same from everyone else around him.

Great team win. Lovie definitely has this going in the right direction.
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Weird thing on that play was he fumbled the ball on his own and wasn't even touched yet.
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Last year we would of kicked a field goal and lost in overtime, this year we punch it in and get a stop on defense. Me likey.
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Last year we would of kicked a field goal and lost in overtime, this year we punch it in and get a stop on defense. Me likey.
Ain't that the truth. Granted, we didn't play against a really good team today, I imagine things would have been a lot different if Romo was playing, but we'll take a win any way we can.
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Ain't that the truth. Granted, we didn't play against a really good team today, I imagine things would have been a lot different if Romo was playing, but we'll take a win any way we can.
Romo should win MVP since he obviously means a lot more to that team than most people thought. LOL.
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Any of you guys been to a game in Carolina? Was wondering how the fans are to opposing fans of division teams. Thinking about getting tickets to it...
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Any of you guys been to a game in Carolina? Was wondering how the fans are to opposing fans of division teams. Thinking about getting tickets to it...
I went to the game there last year and will be going again this year. I didn't have any issues last year, I think the worst I got was a couple "Bucs Suck" but that was it.
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Going into Week 11
-8th place in NFC
-2 games out of wildcard
-winning record in division
-Eagles without Bradford this week, Colts without Luck next week. Rams benched Foles for Keenum. Carolina may rest Week 17.
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Going into Week 11
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-Eagles without Bradford this week, Colts without Luck next week. Rams benched Foles for Keenum. Carolina may rest Week 17.
That is pretty crazy! Bucs seem to have luck on their side for a change.
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